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If you are sitting next to a fat chick on a plane, be civil and considerate. Asking her to leave more room for you will get you much better results than shoving her and muttering about "fat cows" under your breath. If you're the fatty*, then do your best to not ooze onto other people's seats, and realize that if they request you give them more room, they just want more room - they're not calling you names.

Here is an excellent example. Someone weighing 350lb. buys one seat on a plane, but occupies 1 1/2 seats, leaving me with only 1/2 of a seat. He's not supposed to have to buy two seats. I'm just supposed to keep my mouth shut, and ride 3,000 miles in 1/2 a seat. After all, he just can't help himself.

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>Just don't call it a marriage.

Political correctness is a desire to ban phrases that might be offensive to some groups. Allowing two people to marry each other but wanting to call it a "union" or a "gayage" or whatever, because someone might be offended, is an example of political correctness run amok. The same sentiment has led to ever-changing ways to refer to american indians, blacks, mexicans etc.

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Stupid can be documented too, with standardized IQ tests - and half the country is below average. Still, even if someone scored below average, I wouldn't call them stupid.

Yea, but we are getting to the point where we can't even make a joke about someone riding the short bus. Some people get offended even if there isn't a retard in the room.

[billvon 3,111]

>Someone weighing 350lb. buys one seat on a plane, but occupies
>1 1/2 seats, leaving me with only 1/2 of a seat. He's not supposed
> to have to buy two seats. I'm just supposed to keep my mouth
> shut, and ride 3,000 miles in 1/2 a seat. After all, he just can't
> help himself.

This isn't an issue of political correctness; it's one of courtesy. It's all in how you handle it.

Rude:
mutter under your breath "fat asshole pig" "stupid whale"
poke him "accidentally" a lot
get mad and bitch at the flight attendants cause they run a lousy airline
have a screaming fit when someone near you reclines their seat
spill stuff on him to "punish" him

Courteous:
say "hey, would you mind sitting over here? That way I can lean into the aisle and give you more room."
ask the flight attendant to be re-seated to give the guy more room
if not possible, ask you to let you walk around every once in a while to get the kinks out

Is he being rude by getting a single seat in coach? Yes. Does that excuse you being rude? No.

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remember when the SAT and ACT where changed recently since apparently "blacks" or "lower class" (articles' words not mine) didn't know how many cards in a deck and some other things.

That's because they probably weren't playing with a full one to start with.

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Is he being rude by getting a single seat in coach? Yes. Does that excuse you being rude? No.

My point is that if someone is actually occupying two seats, they shouldn't be offended when the ticket agent insists on selling the person two seats. That person is the one being rude by not accepting obvious facts.

[billvon 3,111]

>they shouldn't be offended when the ticket agent insists on selling the person two seats.

Again, courtesy is key. If he tells the ticket agent "hey, I'm a really big guy and I have trouble fitting in your seats" she may find him a seat in a row that has no one in the center, or a seat that has a lot of room (like 66K on a 747-400.) Worst case she may tell him he has to buy the extra seat; he'd probably get a discount for being upfront about it. Problem solved, and no one is put off or unneccesarily penalized.

However, if he just buys a ticket, doesn't tell anyone about it, and just expects the people around him to accommodate him - that's being rude.

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This is an excellent example of what I am talking about. Marriage has been the same for centuries. Along comes a group who have an agenda and want to twist and pervert the meaning of marriage.

If two people want to get a lawyer and draw up a contract between themselves to do as they please, whether they be two lesbians or two beer drinking rednecks living in a trailer in the woods, go for it. Just don't call it a marriage.

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I have no clue how this relates back to Political Correctness. Can you explain?

Because a group who considers themsleves a minority, and has an agenda to subvert societal norms, they hijack something that has stood for centuries as the beginning of a real family[man, woman, children] and make it something it is not.

Because they are a "minority" we are just supposed to bend over and take it.

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>Because a group who considers themsleves a minority, and has an
> agenda to subvert societal norms, they hijack something that has
> stood for centuries as the beginning of a real family[man, woman,
> children] and make it something it is not.

Again, that's not political correctness.

Political correctness is not having a problem with two women getting married as long as it's described by some pseudonym designed to not offend anyone. It's starting letter campaigns because you are offended by the word "marriage" or "civil union" or "black" or "obese."

Courtesy is calling people what they ask to be called on a one-on-one basis.

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This is an excellent example of what I am talking about. Marriage has been the same for centuries. Along comes a group who have an agenda and want to twist and pervert the meaning of marriage.

If two people want to get a lawyer and draw up a contract between themselves to do as they please, whether they be two lesbians or two beer drinking rednecks living in a trailer in the woods, go for it. Just don't call it a marriage.

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I'd say DO worry about hurting other people's feelings! That's just common courtesy. If someone is sitting next to you on the plane, and they are oozing into your seat, ask them to please not do that. No need to say "jesus you're fat" even if that's what you're thinking. Not PCness, just courtesy.

The problem is that too many people like to be mean spirited while indignantly pointing to thier charter/constitution rights to do so (like that church group protesting funerals that has been discussed at lenth on this forum). Too many people with a chip on thier shoulder who know their rights choose to abuse those rights to needlessly irritate others.

Often when a simple compromise can be reached they will refuse just out of principle (they have a right to act like jerks and will exercise it)

My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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Political correctness is not having a problem with two women getting married as long as it's described by some pseudonym designed to not offend anyone. It's starting letter campaigns because you are offended by the word "marriage" or "civil union" or "black" or "obese."

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Hmmmm.... What to do when two fat, black lesbians get married, fly off on honeymoon in a plane with no 66K seat, and spend their time trying to play cards at a casino on an Indian reservation?

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IQ tests are products of man, and there are various types of stupid. I wouldn't really call people stupid anyways.

remember when the SAT and ACT where changed recently since apparently "blacks" or "lower class" (articles' words not mine) didn't know how many cards in a deck and some other things.

High school students who didn't know how many cards are in a deck?


That's just fucking stupid!!!

Actually, it may not be that they're stupid, but more of a sign of the times. A high school senior was born when, 1988? How many young people play cards these days? How many have trouble with an analog clock face? How many know the significance of 33&1/3
How many know how to diagram a sentence?

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Are you saying that all prejudices are irrational and unreasonable?

By the very definition of prejudice I'd say yes but it would depend on your experience. Have you personally had a negative experience or are you just generalising or going by what you hear in society or media?

For example, walking through London you see a large group of black youths, all with their hoods up. Do you avoid the group, cross over the road because you feel they must be up to no good or looking for a fight?

Do you not bother speaking to the woman at the garage when taking your car in and instead go straight to the male worker because he must know more surely or be the senior partner?

Are all German holiday makers obnoxious sun bed thieves?

Are all British holiday makers just out to get really pissed and start trouble?

Once you know your prejudices and identify them you realise where you might discriminate and can avoid doing so. Its what I was taught and I think its true