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Sitting Bull

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pirana    0

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Just reading some history on Crazy Horse. Great stuff.

Though the Father Guido Sarduci School would see this as a waste of time.
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Amazon    7

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The event pretty much marked the end of armed conflict between the US Government and the Native Americans




Eau Contrare

We SILL have not signed a peace treaty with the USA so technically the Seminole Nation is still at war with the US..

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1156.html

Relentless U.S. military incursions, complete with bloodhounds, reduced the Seminole population to between 200 and 300. The war ended with Bowlegs' surrender on May 7, 1858. He had only 40 warriors with him. Shortly after, Colonel Loomis, commander of the forces in Florida, announced an end to all hostilities. In effect, the U.S. government had abandoned efforts to remove all Seminoles.

In exchange for small cash outlays, Bowlegs agreed to leave Florida with about 165 members of his tribe to Indian Territory in Oklahoma. The old chief died shortly thereafter. Two organized bands and several families stayed behind in Big Cypress and other secluded parts of Florida. The tiny remnant that hung on had never surrendered.

My great grandmother was born in 1872. She was born to one of those remnants. She died in 1968 at the age of 96 after having raised 12 children and many many grandchildren..

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rehmwa    2

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Try reading "Buried my heart at wounded knee" fantastic book



I've read it many times.



why, is your memory bad?
can't you afford new books?
would you like more, I can send you a couple?

(I like to reread books too)

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JohnRich    4

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Relentless U.S. military incursions, complete with bloodhounds, reduced the Seminole population to between 200 and 300...



Here in southwest Texas there is the story of the "Seminole Indian Scouts". Their story starts with slaves who escaped from plantations, running south and learning to live with the Seminole Indians in Florida. These slave/Indians from Florida were later hired by the U.S. Army for their knowledge of both the white man and the Indians, to serve as scouts to track down the Comanche and Apache in Texas. They were very successful at this, and helped wipe out those Texas Indians from the scene.

I've never understood why slaves who were mistreated by whites, and who were then part of one decimated Indian tribe, would then want to help their enemy wipe out other Indian tribes... The only explanation I've ever heard is that the various Indian tribes hated each other as much as they hated the white intruders.

Some of the descendants of those Seminole Indian Scouts still live in Bracketville, Texas, where the originals settled after the Indian wars. I've visited their graveyard, where some of the original scouts were buried, as well as their descendants, many of whom continued a tradition of military service in every war since.

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1) Historical marker
2) Gravesite of a Seminole Indian Scout Medal of Honor winner.

In my notes from this visit, I noted that many of the graves are marked with a last name of "Bowlegs", a name which you mentioned earlier. Many of them had English names, taken from their former masters, and others like Bowlegs, were obviously names given them by the Indians.

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Amazon    7

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Kewl Beans John.....

Yeah I sold out too.. and joined the military... taught SERE.. maybe that was from some of the fun things I learned when growing up.

And Rattlesnake... MMMMMM snake steaks rawk;)

We used to catch them when were were kids and sell them to the herpetarium.. but BIG ones.... they went home to grandma...:)

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SpeedRacer    1

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Died today in 1890.

The event pretty much marked the end of armed conflict between the US Government and the Native Americans.

Some information here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitting_Bull

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Hey, let's bump this thread up next to the other thread where people are bitching about immigrunts.
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Zenister    0

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Try reading "Buried my heart at wounded knee" fantastic book



I've read it many times.



why, is your memory bad?
can't you afford new books?
would you like more, I can send you a couple?

(I like to reread books too)




i'm sure you'll agree (in part at least) if you cant find something new in a book the second (3rd,4th etc) it probably wasnt worth reading the 1st.
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