Go to Mexico for Health Care

[tdog 0]

So someone I know rather well has been fighting cancer for years.... She has lost her breasts to cancer...

She was clean... But then another test came back negative. This time ovarian. Her sister and mother both died from cancer.

She has health insurance. The policy has a $2500 deductible followed by 20% out of pocket to a max out of pocket of $5,000 per year.

She already has sold her home and moved to a two bedroom apartment with three kids.

Well, after all the bills in the United States health care system, she finally cannot pay the bills anymore. Instead of declaring bankruptcy - she is going to Mexico for 10 days for the surgery. A friend of the family is a doctor down there, so the deal she worked out for the surgery is $600 - for what would cost $50,000 here - or $5,000 out of her pocket. Now, this is below their market rate as the doctor is doing the surgery for free, she has to just pay the hospital - but still...

So for all those of you who complain that immigrants are coming to the US for benefits - now you have proof that it goes both ways, that US Citizens who cannot afford our health care have to leave the country to Mexico for treatment.

[Ms.sofaking 0]

This makes me sick to my stomach!
And I was complaining about my insurance going up $30 a month because I have migraines.I guess that's not so bad.
The fact is she shouldn't have to leave the country.
Our skyrocketing health care and insurance costs are simply not justifiable.
Everyone should be able to have health care without selling their home.
Especially when we're talking life and death.
I'm sorry for your friends terrible misfortune and I wish her all the best.

"I'm not sure how it's going to turn out, except I'll die in the end, she said. So what could really go wrong? -----Brian Andreas

[billvon 3,120]

Yep. A good friend of mine needed her shoulder fixed, and went to Sweden for the surgery. She got better care than she would have gotten through her health plan and paid far less for it.

[livetofall 0]

the BIG difference is that the americans are paying and those mexican hospitals are not going bankrupt and facing closure.

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[billvon 3,120]

> the BIG difference is that the americans are paying and those
> mexican hospitals are not going bankrupt and facing closure.

Right. Advantage Mexico.

[NCclimber 0]

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So for all those of you who complain that immigrants are coming to the US for benefits - now you have proof that it goes both ways, that US Citizens who cannot afford our health care have to leave the country to Mexico for treatment.

What's the comparison here? For every American who goes to Mexico and pays for medical care, one million Mexican illegals get medical treatment in the US, for free?

Seems like a fair trade.

[rushmc 23]

Care to make guess why the price is to high here? What single line item keeps the price going up?
More than one I know but the biggest one?

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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[Gawain 0]

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What's the comparison here? For every American who goes to Mexico and pays for medical care, one million Mexican illegals get medical treatment in the US, for free?

Seems like a fair trade.

Took the words out of my keyboard...

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[warpedskydiver 0]

Gee Max, maybe the politicians should have sent you to mexico for surgery and rehabilitation, they do so well down there with rehab on the seriously injured.

I wonder why they have crippled beggars in the streets?

[warpedskydiver 0]

I can give surgical discounts if you don't mind me using my deer dressing knives, and a table in my garage, I swear it's clean, otherwise my german shepherd would not sleep there.

[tdog 0]

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> the BIG difference is that the americans are paying and those
> mexican hospitals are not going bankrupt and facing closure.

Right. Advantage Mexico.

I really didn't want to make this a immigration argument - however two things...

1) Yes hospital fees are effected by those who cannot pay. However this does not explain why pharmaceuticals, malpractice insurance, etc are so much more expensive here, and the other "bloat" in the medical bills.

It is definitely the dog chasing its own tail. The costs go up for all, all cannot pay, so the cost goes up even more - and the endgame is that no one can pay.

Example - if you donate your organs - the companies that process your body mark up your parts so much, the arteries in your leg that can be used in heart bypass, cost $20,000. Why? Something is wrong here - and it is NOT that the illegals cannot pay as this is the price before hospitals add their markup.

2) For everyone who says that illegals come to the US and don't pay into the system - that is wrong. These individuals are taking the near minimum wage jobs that Americans used to take, and even with papers that are not legit - employers are forced to deduct Social Security and Medicare at the same rate. However, since their papers are not legit, they cannot use these benefits they are paying for.

Imagine - if the doomsday folks say that Social Security will be bankrupt in (for the sake of argument) 30 years - how much sooner would it be bankrupt if all of a sudden all the undocumented workers stopped contributing today.

[warpedskydiver 0]

NO effect.

[tdog 0]

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NO effect.

What has NO effect?