JohnRich 4 #26 December 14, 2006 QuoteThe laser pointer doesn't make up for drift caused by how the trigger is pulled or the recoil badly handled. A laser lets you see how you're pulling the gun off target with an incorrect trigger pull, or a flinch. And then you can slow down and correct it. By the time you feel the recoil, the bullet is gone, so a laser is irrelevant to accuracy at that point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #27 December 14, 2006 QuoteThe feeling of freefall I can understand..shooting not, other that shooting a high power pistol for the feel of power??? Once again, this is not about people who are completely blind. You can be "legally blind" and still see well enough to enjoy shooting sports. But even if a blind person did want to experience what it feels like to shoot a firearm, with the assistance of a sighted coach, what's wrong with that? I'm all for blind people getting as many life experiences as they can, just like everyone else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #28 December 14, 2006 QuoteQuote..... Once again, this is not about people who are completely blind. You can be "legally blind" and still see well enough to enjoy shooting sports. .... Jesus - Does that also refer to other "experiences in life", f.e. such like driving a car??? You know, over here we have some strict regulations f. e. regarding driving a car: If your eyes are not good enough, could not be adjusted by glasses, you're not allowed to drive a car. Period. In your place, a blind or half blind one might be allowed to shoot ??? Woah...... I'm lost. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #29 December 14, 2006 I don't care who kills them, but all the deer that are near roads should be killed without limitation. After hitting a deer, and it nearly causing me to crash, I want all of them dead. There will still be plenty of them in National Parks and such.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #30 December 14, 2006 QuoteI don't care who kills them, but all the deer that are near roads should be killed without limitation. After hitting a deer, and it nearly causing me to crash, I want all of them dead. There will still be plenty of them in National Parks and such. You'd kill Bambi's mother?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,587 #31 December 14, 2006 QuoteBut even if a blind person did want to experience what it feels like to shoot a firearm, with the assistance of a sighted coach, what's wrong with that? I'm all for blind people getting as many life experiences as they can, just like everyone else.I have had a couple of legally-blind friends; one would probably never drive, but some friends took her to a very large empty parking lot once and gave her the wheel. She said it was one of the best times she ever had in her life. The other had had a similar experience when he was young. But now, with advances in specialized optics, he has a driver's license, and no longer qualifies for the "blind" deduction on his income tax return. Ya never know what the future brings. Personally, I see no reason whatsoever why this is a bad idea. The one limitation I could imagine would be to say that it might be best if whoever is hunting with the partially-sighted person is either licensed somehow, or guaranteed to be sober and not stupid. Or just say that it can be used in controlled situations (e.g. gun ranges) only. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #32 December 14, 2006 Quote*** ... Personally, I see no reason whatsoever why this is a bad idea. The one limitation I could imagine would be to say that it might be best if whoever is hunting with the partially-sighted person is either licensed somehow, or guaranteed to be sober and not stupid. Or just say that it can be used in controlled situations (e.g. gun ranges) only. Wendy W. Oh my, that's a lot you're asking for, no? "Sober" "Not stupid" "...controlled situations..." dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #33 December 14, 2006 QuoteOh my, that's a lot you're asking for, no? "Sober" "Not stupid" "...controlled situations..." Do you presume that everyone who goes into the woods with a gun to hunt is a drunken, out of control, idiot? Quote??? Woah...... I'm lost. Yes, you are. Very. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freethefly 6 #34 December 15, 2006 http://www.nrahq.org/compete/disabled.asp from the NRA website: A designated assistant system was selected, whereby a sighted partner would verbally guide the visually impaired marksman in the aiming and shooting process, while closely monitoring all safety considerations. A similar partnering system for blind hunters has been employed for more than 40 years, and has proven so successful and safe that many states permit it's use. By the way, I just spent 3 days in the woods and didn't see one deer untill 7 this am. Small doe. 89 yards, open sights, winchester model of 1917 30.06. I see no reason why blind folks shouldn't be able to enjoy hunting."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumper03 0 #35 December 15, 2006 QuoteThe title is "I'm all for allowing hunting and guns" that's nice of the OP to give permission I thought it was a right and that dear friends is why I will not waste anymore of your time here in SC. Good day to you all.Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
sundevil777 102 #29 December 14, 2006 I don't care who kills them, but all the deer that are near roads should be killed without limitation. After hitting a deer, and it nearly causing me to crash, I want all of them dead. There will still be plenty of them in National Parks and such.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #30 December 14, 2006 QuoteI don't care who kills them, but all the deer that are near roads should be killed without limitation. After hitting a deer, and it nearly causing me to crash, I want all of them dead. There will still be plenty of them in National Parks and such. You'd kill Bambi's mother?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #31 December 14, 2006 QuoteBut even if a blind person did want to experience what it feels like to shoot a firearm, with the assistance of a sighted coach, what's wrong with that? I'm all for blind people getting as many life experiences as they can, just like everyone else.I have had a couple of legally-blind friends; one would probably never drive, but some friends took her to a very large empty parking lot once and gave her the wheel. She said it was one of the best times she ever had in her life. The other had had a similar experience when he was young. But now, with advances in specialized optics, he has a driver's license, and no longer qualifies for the "blind" deduction on his income tax return. Ya never know what the future brings. Personally, I see no reason whatsoever why this is a bad idea. The one limitation I could imagine would be to say that it might be best if whoever is hunting with the partially-sighted person is either licensed somehow, or guaranteed to be sober and not stupid. Or just say that it can be used in controlled situations (e.g. gun ranges) only. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #32 December 14, 2006 Quote*** ... Personally, I see no reason whatsoever why this is a bad idea. The one limitation I could imagine would be to say that it might be best if whoever is hunting with the partially-sighted person is either licensed somehow, or guaranteed to be sober and not stupid. Or just say that it can be used in controlled situations (e.g. gun ranges) only. Wendy W. Oh my, that's a lot you're asking for, no? "Sober" "Not stupid" "...controlled situations..." dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #33 December 14, 2006 QuoteOh my, that's a lot you're asking for, no? "Sober" "Not stupid" "...controlled situations..." Do you presume that everyone who goes into the woods with a gun to hunt is a drunken, out of control, idiot? Quote??? Woah...... I'm lost. Yes, you are. Very. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #34 December 15, 2006 http://www.nrahq.org/compete/disabled.asp from the NRA website: A designated assistant system was selected, whereby a sighted partner would verbally guide the visually impaired marksman in the aiming and shooting process, while closely monitoring all safety considerations. A similar partnering system for blind hunters has been employed for more than 40 years, and has proven so successful and safe that many states permit it's use. By the way, I just spent 3 days in the woods and didn't see one deer untill 7 this am. Small doe. 89 yards, open sights, winchester model of 1917 30.06. I see no reason why blind folks shouldn't be able to enjoy hunting."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #35 December 15, 2006 QuoteThe title is "I'm all for allowing hunting and guns" that's nice of the OP to give permission I thought it was a right and that dear friends is why I will not waste anymore of your time here in SC. Good day to you all.Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
