GQ_jumper 4 #1 December 11, 2006 I'm not going to ruin a thread started to honor fallen hero's so I'm posting this here. THIS IS TRULY FUCKING PATHETIC!!! Someone starts a post in remeberance of fallen American's, no intention of starting a political debate, and people have to get this shit thrown into SC. Does no one have any respect anymore? QuoteAs for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well. The US had managed to finish WW2 within 3 years, but has not even managed to contain the war in Iraq in more than the same timeframe. What's up with that? (as said by TONTO) And that comment, quite the ballsy statement from someone sitting behind a computer, would you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Take it from someone who has been there twice and is packing my bags at the moment to spend the next 9 months over there, it has nothing to do with how the soldiers are fighting, there's been a lot of leadership issues at the highest levels, not to mention the media making everything into a huge issue forcing more and more restrictions on the way we fight. Because of people bitchin about us doing our job we now might as well sit down with the people shooting at us and have a heart to heart with them before engaging them. Seems that most of the people out there would rather see us die than kill a fucking terrorist.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 December 11, 2006 QuoteI'm not going to ruin a thread started to honor fallen hero's so I'm posting this here. THIS IS TRULY FUCKING PATHETIC!!! Someone starts a post in remeberance of fallen American's, no intention of starting a political debate, and people have to get this shit thrown into SC. Does no one have any respect anymore? QuoteAs for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well. The US had managed to finish WW2 within 3 years, but has not even managed to contain the war in Iraq in more than the same timeframe. What's up with that? (as said by TONTO) And that comment, quite the ballsy statement from someone sitting behind a computer, would you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Take it from someone who has been there twice and is packing my bags at the moment to spend the next 9 months over there, it has nothing to do with how the soldiers are fighting, there's been a lot of leadership issues at the highest levels, not to mention the media making everything into a huge issue forcing more and more restrictions on the way we fight. Because of people bitchin about us doing our job we now might as well sit down with the people shooting at us and have a heart to heart with them before engaging them. Seems that most of the people out there would rather see us die than kill a fucking terrorist. Ain't that the truth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #3 December 11, 2006 Just remember that we are ensuring the preservation of a person's right to say things that we disagree with, and even find offensive. In the context of what you're talking about: is it tactful? No. Is it even truthful? No.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #4 December 11, 2006 Just remember that we are ensuring the preservation of a person's right to say things that we disagree with, and even find offensive. Quote I agree with you completely, which is why I never told him he had no right to say that, but as he has rights to say whatever so do I and I exercised them to show how I feel about what he said. It's obvious that I don't always speak in the most tactful manner, but I do make an effort to be respectful to those who deserve it.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #5 December 11, 2006 Quote *** Seems that most of the people out there would rather see us die than kill a fucking terrorist. Well now that would be novel wouldn't it, diplomacy BEFORE distruction Most people would rather you lot (and our lot) packed ya shit and went back home. Just for the record I would have ZERO trouble fronting you to say thatYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #6 December 11, 2006 Well now that would be novel wouldn't it, diplomacy BEFORE distruction Most people would rather you lot (and our lot) packed ya shit and went back home. Just for the record I would have ZERO trouble fronting you to say that Quote I have no issue with you wanting the US out of Iraq, a little question I have though is how does a terrorist killing me rather than the opposite count as diplomacy before destruction? And before you go and try and pull a tought guy routine look a little closer at what I was calling out, like I said if you want us out of Iraq, voice your opinion, but if someone is going to knock a soldier saying they aren't tough enough to handle the war, they should grab their sack and say it to a soldiers face, they are still more than welcome to voice their opinion I just think people who say such things should experience first hand how well soldiers can really fight.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #7 December 11, 2006 QuoteWell now that would be novel wouldn't it, diplomacy BEFORE distruction Most people would rather you lot (and our lot) packed ya shit and went back home. Just for the record I would have ZERO trouble fronting you to say that Quote I have no issue with you wanting the US out of Iraq, a little question I have though is how does a terrorist killing me rather than the opposite count as diplomacy before destruction? And before you go and try and pull a tought guy routine look a little closer at what I was calling out, like I said if you want us out of Iraq, voice your opinion, but if someone is going to knock a soldier saying they aren't tough enough to handle the war, they should grab their sack and say it to a soldiers face, they are still more than welcome to voice their opinion I just think people who say such things should experience first hand how well soldiers can really fight. t never once said anything about the toughness of the solders, he was speaking out more about the government than anything elseYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #8 December 11, 2006 Quotewould you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #9 December 11, 2006 t never once said anything about the toughness of the solders, he was speaking out more about the government than anything else Quote I never felt that you were trying to knock soldiers, I'm sorry if my reply came off that way. This is what i was talking about. Quote As for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well It seem spretty clear to me that this was intended for soldiers, regardless of whether it was or not it was posted in the middle of a thread started in memory of those who gave their lives at Pearl Harbor.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #10 December 11, 2006 Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy. Quote Or one might venture to say that they understand better than most, the tenants they are fighting for having offered themselves up to personally assure those rights. Hate the game, not the player...especially if you're just watching from the stands. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #11 December 11, 2006 Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy.Quote I never said he didn't have the freedom to say that, but you seem to think it's wrong for someone to stick up for something or someone they hold close to their heart. If you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. So what's wrong with me saying that if someone is going to talk shit about someone else they should say it to their face and not to a computer screen? All I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #12 December 11, 2006 Tonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #13 December 11, 2006 Quote***As for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well. The US had managed to finish WW2 within 3 years, but has not even managed to contain the war in Iraq in more than the same timeframe. What's up with that? (as said by TONTO) And that comment, quite the ballsy statement from someone sitting behind a computer, would you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Take it from someone who has been there twice and is packing my bags at the moment to spend the next 9 months over there, it has nothing to do with how the soldiers are fighting, there's been a lot of leadership issues at the highest levels, not to mention the media making everything into a huge issue forcing more and more restrictions on the way we fight. Because of people bitchin about us doing our job we now might as well sit down with the people shooting at us and have a heart to heart with them before engaging them. Seems that most of the people out there would rather see us die than kill a fucking terrorist. It was a bit of a cheap shot. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mockingbird 0 #14 December 11, 2006 QuoteJust remember that we are ensuring the preservation of a person's right to say things that we disagree with, and even find offensive. In the context of what you're talking about: is it tactful? No. Is it even truthful? No.[Unsure] Right. It's too bad that so many put their right to an opinion ahead of tact.Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #15 December 11, 2006 I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote So because he is from South Africa you don't have any problem with him 1) disrespecting the memory of those killed in the attack on Pearl Harbor, and 2) taking a shot at US soldiers in Iraq? could you have missed the point of me starting this thread any more? People need to have more respect, they have every right to their opinion, as well as have the right to post it wherever they would like, but sometimes people should take a step back and maybe bite their tongue out of respect. And if they choose not to hold their tongue and take a shot, well then as I've said before, grab your nuts say it to their face and don't cry about freedom of speech when someone returns your verbal cheap shot with a physical one. Just my opinionHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #16 December 11, 2006 QuoteAll I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said. These two sentences are oxymoronic.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #17 December 11, 2006 QuoteTonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Yes, we know he is proud to have served and helped the apartheid."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #18 December 11, 2006 These two sentences are oxymoronic.Quote how so, say what ever you like, but if you are going to say something that could piss someone off don't hide.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #19 December 11, 2006 OOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #20 December 11, 2006 QuoteOOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Bug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #21 December 11, 2006 QuoteBug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon I have nothing but respect for those who serve their country.. because so many will not serve yet run their mouths about the war...so many chickenhawks ... so many wars to run off at the mouth about. I cant respect anyone in this administration.. there are thousands of our servicemen who's lives have been wasted because of the incompetence and lies....I think our military deserves more respect than to waste lives in the wrong place.. at the wrong time.. in the wrong war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 140 #22 December 11, 2006 QuoteIf you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. you say this like Dropzone.com is the USA scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #23 December 11, 2006 you say this like Dropzone.com is the USAQuote umm, I do?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #24 December 11, 2006 I said pretty much the same thing to a current service member this weekend to his face and I got an agreement out of him. Was I wrong for saying it and talking to someone that agrees with Tontos thoughts even though he is in the armed services?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ragnarok 0 #25 December 11, 2006 Give me grief for being a Soldier and going to Iraq? Well, pal - the government YOU voted for (or if you did not vote, bet you will next time!!!) sent us over there._________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 1 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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Squeak 17 #5 December 11, 2006 Quote *** Seems that most of the people out there would rather see us die than kill a fucking terrorist. Well now that would be novel wouldn't it, diplomacy BEFORE distruction Most people would rather you lot (and our lot) packed ya shit and went back home. Just for the record I would have ZERO trouble fronting you to say thatYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #6 December 11, 2006 Well now that would be novel wouldn't it, diplomacy BEFORE distruction Most people would rather you lot (and our lot) packed ya shit and went back home. Just for the record I would have ZERO trouble fronting you to say that Quote I have no issue with you wanting the US out of Iraq, a little question I have though is how does a terrorist killing me rather than the opposite count as diplomacy before destruction? And before you go and try and pull a tought guy routine look a little closer at what I was calling out, like I said if you want us out of Iraq, voice your opinion, but if someone is going to knock a soldier saying they aren't tough enough to handle the war, they should grab their sack and say it to a soldiers face, they are still more than welcome to voice their opinion I just think people who say such things should experience first hand how well soldiers can really fight.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #7 December 11, 2006 QuoteWell now that would be novel wouldn't it, diplomacy BEFORE distruction Most people would rather you lot (and our lot) packed ya shit and went back home. Just for the record I would have ZERO trouble fronting you to say that Quote I have no issue with you wanting the US out of Iraq, a little question I have though is how does a terrorist killing me rather than the opposite count as diplomacy before destruction? And before you go and try and pull a tought guy routine look a little closer at what I was calling out, like I said if you want us out of Iraq, voice your opinion, but if someone is going to knock a soldier saying they aren't tough enough to handle the war, they should grab their sack and say it to a soldiers face, they are still more than welcome to voice their opinion I just think people who say such things should experience first hand how well soldiers can really fight. t never once said anything about the toughness of the solders, he was speaking out more about the government than anything elseYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #8 December 11, 2006 Quotewould you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #9 December 11, 2006 t never once said anything about the toughness of the solders, he was speaking out more about the government than anything else Quote I never felt that you were trying to knock soldiers, I'm sorry if my reply came off that way. This is what i was talking about. Quote As for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well It seem spretty clear to me that this was intended for soldiers, regardless of whether it was or not it was posted in the middle of a thread started in memory of those who gave their lives at Pearl Harbor.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #10 December 11, 2006 Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy. Quote Or one might venture to say that they understand better than most, the tenants they are fighting for having offered themselves up to personally assure those rights. Hate the game, not the player...especially if you're just watching from the stands. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #11 December 11, 2006 Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy.Quote I never said he didn't have the freedom to say that, but you seem to think it's wrong for someone to stick up for something or someone they hold close to their heart. If you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. So what's wrong with me saying that if someone is going to talk shit about someone else they should say it to their face and not to a computer screen? All I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #12 December 11, 2006 Tonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #13 December 11, 2006 Quote***As for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well. The US had managed to finish WW2 within 3 years, but has not even managed to contain the war in Iraq in more than the same timeframe. What's up with that? (as said by TONTO) And that comment, quite the ballsy statement from someone sitting behind a computer, would you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Take it from someone who has been there twice and is packing my bags at the moment to spend the next 9 months over there, it has nothing to do with how the soldiers are fighting, there's been a lot of leadership issues at the highest levels, not to mention the media making everything into a huge issue forcing more and more restrictions on the way we fight. Because of people bitchin about us doing our job we now might as well sit down with the people shooting at us and have a heart to heart with them before engaging them. Seems that most of the people out there would rather see us die than kill a fucking terrorist. It was a bit of a cheap shot. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mockingbird 0 #14 December 11, 2006 QuoteJust remember that we are ensuring the preservation of a person's right to say things that we disagree with, and even find offensive. In the context of what you're talking about: is it tactful? No. Is it even truthful? No.[Unsure] Right. It's too bad that so many put their right to an opinion ahead of tact.Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #15 December 11, 2006 I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote So because he is from South Africa you don't have any problem with him 1) disrespecting the memory of those killed in the attack on Pearl Harbor, and 2) taking a shot at US soldiers in Iraq? could you have missed the point of me starting this thread any more? People need to have more respect, they have every right to their opinion, as well as have the right to post it wherever they would like, but sometimes people should take a step back and maybe bite their tongue out of respect. And if they choose not to hold their tongue and take a shot, well then as I've said before, grab your nuts say it to their face and don't cry about freedom of speech when someone returns your verbal cheap shot with a physical one. Just my opinionHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #16 December 11, 2006 QuoteAll I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said. These two sentences are oxymoronic.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #17 December 11, 2006 QuoteTonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Yes, we know he is proud to have served and helped the apartheid."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #18 December 11, 2006 These two sentences are oxymoronic.Quote how so, say what ever you like, but if you are going to say something that could piss someone off don't hide.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #19 December 11, 2006 OOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #20 December 11, 2006 QuoteOOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Bug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #21 December 11, 2006 QuoteBug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon I have nothing but respect for those who serve their country.. because so many will not serve yet run their mouths about the war...so many chickenhawks ... so many wars to run off at the mouth about. I cant respect anyone in this administration.. there are thousands of our servicemen who's lives have been wasted because of the incompetence and lies....I think our military deserves more respect than to waste lives in the wrong place.. at the wrong time.. in the wrong war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 140 #22 December 11, 2006 QuoteIf you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. you say this like Dropzone.com is the USA scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #23 December 11, 2006 you say this like Dropzone.com is the USAQuote umm, I do?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #24 December 11, 2006 I said pretty much the same thing to a current service member this weekend to his face and I got an agreement out of him. Was I wrong for saying it and talking to someone that agrees with Tontos thoughts even though he is in the armed services?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ragnarok 0 #25 December 11, 2006 Give me grief for being a Soldier and going to Iraq? Well, pal - the government YOU voted for (or if you did not vote, bet you will next time!!!) sent us over there._________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 1 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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Squeak 17 #7 December 11, 2006 QuoteWell now that would be novel wouldn't it, diplomacy BEFORE distruction Most people would rather you lot (and our lot) packed ya shit and went back home. Just for the record I would have ZERO trouble fronting you to say that Quote I have no issue with you wanting the US out of Iraq, a little question I have though is how does a terrorist killing me rather than the opposite count as diplomacy before destruction? And before you go and try and pull a tought guy routine look a little closer at what I was calling out, like I said if you want us out of Iraq, voice your opinion, but if someone is going to knock a soldier saying they aren't tough enough to handle the war, they should grab their sack and say it to a soldiers face, they are still more than welcome to voice their opinion I just think people who say such things should experience first hand how well soldiers can really fight. t never once said anything about the toughness of the solders, he was speaking out more about the government than anything elseYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #8 December 11, 2006 Quotewould you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #9 December 11, 2006 t never once said anything about the toughness of the solders, he was speaking out more about the government than anything else Quote I never felt that you were trying to knock soldiers, I'm sorry if my reply came off that way. This is what i was talking about. Quote As for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well It seem spretty clear to me that this was intended for soldiers, regardless of whether it was or not it was posted in the middle of a thread started in memory of those who gave their lives at Pearl Harbor.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #10 December 11, 2006 Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy. Quote Or one might venture to say that they understand better than most, the tenants they are fighting for having offered themselves up to personally assure those rights. Hate the game, not the player...especially if you're just watching from the stands. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #11 December 11, 2006 Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy.Quote I never said he didn't have the freedom to say that, but you seem to think it's wrong for someone to stick up for something or someone they hold close to their heart. If you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. So what's wrong with me saying that if someone is going to talk shit about someone else they should say it to their face and not to a computer screen? All I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #12 December 11, 2006 Tonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #13 December 11, 2006 Quote***As for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well. The US had managed to finish WW2 within 3 years, but has not even managed to contain the war in Iraq in more than the same timeframe. What's up with that? (as said by TONTO) And that comment, quite the ballsy statement from someone sitting behind a computer, would you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Take it from someone who has been there twice and is packing my bags at the moment to spend the next 9 months over there, it has nothing to do with how the soldiers are fighting, there's been a lot of leadership issues at the highest levels, not to mention the media making everything into a huge issue forcing more and more restrictions on the way we fight. Because of people bitchin about us doing our job we now might as well sit down with the people shooting at us and have a heart to heart with them before engaging them. Seems that most of the people out there would rather see us die than kill a fucking terrorist. It was a bit of a cheap shot. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mockingbird 0 #14 December 11, 2006 QuoteJust remember that we are ensuring the preservation of a person's right to say things that we disagree with, and even find offensive. In the context of what you're talking about: is it tactful? No. Is it even truthful? No.[Unsure] Right. It's too bad that so many put their right to an opinion ahead of tact.Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #15 December 11, 2006 I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote So because he is from South Africa you don't have any problem with him 1) disrespecting the memory of those killed in the attack on Pearl Harbor, and 2) taking a shot at US soldiers in Iraq? could you have missed the point of me starting this thread any more? People need to have more respect, they have every right to their opinion, as well as have the right to post it wherever they would like, but sometimes people should take a step back and maybe bite their tongue out of respect. And if they choose not to hold their tongue and take a shot, well then as I've said before, grab your nuts say it to their face and don't cry about freedom of speech when someone returns your verbal cheap shot with a physical one. Just my opinionHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #16 December 11, 2006 QuoteAll I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said. These two sentences are oxymoronic.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #17 December 11, 2006 QuoteTonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Yes, we know he is proud to have served and helped the apartheid."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #18 December 11, 2006 These two sentences are oxymoronic.Quote how so, say what ever you like, but if you are going to say something that could piss someone off don't hide.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #19 December 11, 2006 OOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #20 December 11, 2006 QuoteOOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Bug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #21 December 11, 2006 QuoteBug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon I have nothing but respect for those who serve their country.. because so many will not serve yet run their mouths about the war...so many chickenhawks ... so many wars to run off at the mouth about. I cant respect anyone in this administration.. there are thousands of our servicemen who's lives have been wasted because of the incompetence and lies....I think our military deserves more respect than to waste lives in the wrong place.. at the wrong time.. in the wrong war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 140 #22 December 11, 2006 QuoteIf you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. you say this like Dropzone.com is the USA scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #23 December 11, 2006 you say this like Dropzone.com is the USAQuote umm, I do?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #24 December 11, 2006 I said pretty much the same thing to a current service member this weekend to his face and I got an agreement out of him. Was I wrong for saying it and talking to someone that agrees with Tontos thoughts even though he is in the armed services?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ragnarok 0 #25 December 11, 2006 Give me grief for being a Soldier and going to Iraq? Well, pal - the government YOU voted for (or if you did not vote, bet you will next time!!!) sent us over there._________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 1 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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KidWicked 0 #8 December 11, 2006 Quotewould you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #9 December 11, 2006 t never once said anything about the toughness of the solders, he was speaking out more about the government than anything else Quote I never felt that you were trying to knock soldiers, I'm sorry if my reply came off that way. This is what i was talking about. Quote As for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well It seem spretty clear to me that this was intended for soldiers, regardless of whether it was or not it was posted in the middle of a thread started in memory of those who gave their lives at Pearl Harbor.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #10 December 11, 2006 Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy. Quote Or one might venture to say that they understand better than most, the tenants they are fighting for having offered themselves up to personally assure those rights. Hate the game, not the player...especially if you're just watching from the stands. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #11 December 11, 2006 Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy.Quote I never said he didn't have the freedom to say that, but you seem to think it's wrong for someone to stick up for something or someone they hold close to their heart. If you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. So what's wrong with me saying that if someone is going to talk shit about someone else they should say it to their face and not to a computer screen? All I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #12 December 11, 2006 Tonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #13 December 11, 2006 Quote***As for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well. The US had managed to finish WW2 within 3 years, but has not even managed to contain the war in Iraq in more than the same timeframe. What's up with that? (as said by TONTO) And that comment, quite the ballsy statement from someone sitting behind a computer, would you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Take it from someone who has been there twice and is packing my bags at the moment to spend the next 9 months over there, it has nothing to do with how the soldiers are fighting, there's been a lot of leadership issues at the highest levels, not to mention the media making everything into a huge issue forcing more and more restrictions on the way we fight. Because of people bitchin about us doing our job we now might as well sit down with the people shooting at us and have a heart to heart with them before engaging them. Seems that most of the people out there would rather see us die than kill a fucking terrorist. It was a bit of a cheap shot. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mockingbird 0 #14 December 11, 2006 QuoteJust remember that we are ensuring the preservation of a person's right to say things that we disagree with, and even find offensive. In the context of what you're talking about: is it tactful? No. Is it even truthful? No.[Unsure] Right. It's too bad that so many put their right to an opinion ahead of tact.Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #15 December 11, 2006 I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote So because he is from South Africa you don't have any problem with him 1) disrespecting the memory of those killed in the attack on Pearl Harbor, and 2) taking a shot at US soldiers in Iraq? could you have missed the point of me starting this thread any more? People need to have more respect, they have every right to their opinion, as well as have the right to post it wherever they would like, but sometimes people should take a step back and maybe bite their tongue out of respect. And if they choose not to hold their tongue and take a shot, well then as I've said before, grab your nuts say it to their face and don't cry about freedom of speech when someone returns your verbal cheap shot with a physical one. Just my opinionHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #16 December 11, 2006 QuoteAll I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said. These two sentences are oxymoronic.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #17 December 11, 2006 QuoteTonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Yes, we know he is proud to have served and helped the apartheid."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #18 December 11, 2006 These two sentences are oxymoronic.Quote how so, say what ever you like, but if you are going to say something that could piss someone off don't hide.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #19 December 11, 2006 OOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #20 December 11, 2006 QuoteOOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Bug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #21 December 11, 2006 QuoteBug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon I have nothing but respect for those who serve their country.. because so many will not serve yet run their mouths about the war...so many chickenhawks ... so many wars to run off at the mouth about. I cant respect anyone in this administration.. there are thousands of our servicemen who's lives have been wasted because of the incompetence and lies....I think our military deserves more respect than to waste lives in the wrong place.. at the wrong time.. in the wrong war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 140 #22 December 11, 2006 QuoteIf you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. you say this like Dropzone.com is the USA scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #23 December 11, 2006 you say this like Dropzone.com is the USAQuote umm, I do?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #24 December 11, 2006 I said pretty much the same thing to a current service member this weekend to his face and I got an agreement out of him. 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airtwardo 7 #10 December 11, 2006 Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy. Quote Or one might venture to say that they understand better than most, the tenants they are fighting for having offered themselves up to personally assure those rights. Hate the game, not the player...especially if you're just watching from the stands. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #11 December 11, 2006 Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy.Quote I never said he didn't have the freedom to say that, but you seem to think it's wrong for someone to stick up for something or someone they hold close to their heart. If you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. So what's wrong with me saying that if someone is going to talk shit about someone else they should say it to their face and not to a computer screen? All I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #12 December 11, 2006 Tonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #13 December 11, 2006 Quote***As for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well. The US had managed to finish WW2 within 3 years, but has not even managed to contain the war in Iraq in more than the same timeframe. What's up with that? (as said by TONTO) And that comment, quite the ballsy statement from someone sitting behind a computer, would you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Take it from someone who has been there twice and is packing my bags at the moment to spend the next 9 months over there, it has nothing to do with how the soldiers are fighting, there's been a lot of leadership issues at the highest levels, not to mention the media making everything into a huge issue forcing more and more restrictions on the way we fight. Because of people bitchin about us doing our job we now might as well sit down with the people shooting at us and have a heart to heart with them before engaging them. Seems that most of the people out there would rather see us die than kill a fucking terrorist. It was a bit of a cheap shot. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mockingbird 0 #14 December 11, 2006 QuoteJust remember that we are ensuring the preservation of a person's right to say things that we disagree with, and even find offensive. In the context of what you're talking about: is it tactful? No. Is it even truthful? No.[Unsure] Right. It's too bad that so many put their right to an opinion ahead of tact.Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #15 December 11, 2006 I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote So because he is from South Africa you don't have any problem with him 1) disrespecting the memory of those killed in the attack on Pearl Harbor, and 2) taking a shot at US soldiers in Iraq? could you have missed the point of me starting this thread any more? People need to have more respect, they have every right to their opinion, as well as have the right to post it wherever they would like, but sometimes people should take a step back and maybe bite their tongue out of respect. And if they choose not to hold their tongue and take a shot, well then as I've said before, grab your nuts say it to their face and don't cry about freedom of speech when someone returns your verbal cheap shot with a physical one. Just my opinionHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #16 December 11, 2006 QuoteAll I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said. These two sentences are oxymoronic.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #17 December 11, 2006 QuoteTonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Yes, we know he is proud to have served and helped the apartheid."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #18 December 11, 2006 These two sentences are oxymoronic.Quote how so, say what ever you like, but if you are going to say something that could piss someone off don't hide.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #19 December 11, 2006 OOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #20 December 11, 2006 QuoteOOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Bug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #21 December 11, 2006 QuoteBug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon I have nothing but respect for those who serve their country.. because so many will not serve yet run their mouths about the war...so many chickenhawks ... so many wars to run off at the mouth about. I cant respect anyone in this administration.. there are thousands of our servicemen who's lives have been wasted because of the incompetence and lies....I think our military deserves more respect than to waste lives in the wrong place.. at the wrong time.. in the wrong war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 140 #22 December 11, 2006 QuoteIf you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. you say this like Dropzone.com is the USA scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #23 December 11, 2006 you say this like Dropzone.com is the USAQuote umm, I do?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #24 December 11, 2006 I said pretty much the same thing to a current service member this weekend to his face and I got an agreement out of him. Was I wrong for saying it and talking to someone that agrees with Tontos thoughts even though he is in the armed services?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ragnarok 0 #25 December 11, 2006 Give me grief for being a Soldier and going to Iraq? Well, pal - the government YOU voted for (or if you did not vote, bet you will next time!!!) sent us over there._________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 1 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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GQ_jumper 4 #11 December 11, 2006 Typical macho bullshit. Did it occur to you that freedom of speech is one of the tenets that you're actually fighting to protect? What ridiculous hypocrisy.Quote I never said he didn't have the freedom to say that, but you seem to think it's wrong for someone to stick up for something or someone they hold close to their heart. If you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. So what's wrong with me saying that if someone is going to talk shit about someone else they should say it to their face and not to a computer screen? All I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #12 December 11, 2006 Tonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Richards 0 #13 December 11, 2006 Quote***As for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well. The US had managed to finish WW2 within 3 years, but has not even managed to contain the war in Iraq in more than the same timeframe. What's up with that? (as said by TONTO) And that comment, quite the ballsy statement from someone sitting behind a computer, would you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Take it from someone who has been there twice and is packing my bags at the moment to spend the next 9 months over there, it has nothing to do with how the soldiers are fighting, there's been a lot of leadership issues at the highest levels, not to mention the media making everything into a huge issue forcing more and more restrictions on the way we fight. Because of people bitchin about us doing our job we now might as well sit down with the people shooting at us and have a heart to heart with them before engaging them. Seems that most of the people out there would rather see us die than kill a fucking terrorist. It was a bit of a cheap shot. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 December 11, 2006 Tonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #13 December 11, 2006 Quote***As for those still fighting to make your country great, they're not fighting very well. The US had managed to finish WW2 within 3 years, but has not even managed to contain the war in Iraq in more than the same timeframe. What's up with that? (as said by TONTO) And that comment, quite the ballsy statement from someone sitting behind a computer, would you still have the guts to say that standing toe to toe with an American soldier, or any American for that matter. I highly doubt it, if you wouldn't say it to a persons face why on here, it's an act of cowardice if you ask me, and I think i've made it clear in these forums before where cowards stand in my book. Take it from someone who has been there twice and is packing my bags at the moment to spend the next 9 months over there, it has nothing to do with how the soldiers are fighting, there's been a lot of leadership issues at the highest levels, not to mention the media making everything into a huge issue forcing more and more restrictions on the way we fight. Because of people bitchin about us doing our job we now might as well sit down with the people shooting at us and have a heart to heart with them before engaging them. Seems that most of the people out there would rather see us die than kill a fucking terrorist. It was a bit of a cheap shot. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mockingbird 0 #14 December 11, 2006 QuoteJust remember that we are ensuring the preservation of a person's right to say things that we disagree with, and even find offensive. In the context of what you're talking about: is it tactful? No. Is it even truthful? No.[Unsure] Right. It's too bad that so many put their right to an opinion ahead of tact.Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird "Why is there something rather than nothing?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #15 December 11, 2006 I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Quote So because he is from South Africa you don't have any problem with him 1) disrespecting the memory of those killed in the attack on Pearl Harbor, and 2) taking a shot at US soldiers in Iraq? could you have missed the point of me starting this thread any more? People need to have more respect, they have every right to their opinion, as well as have the right to post it wherever they would like, but sometimes people should take a step back and maybe bite their tongue out of respect. And if they choose not to hold their tongue and take a shot, well then as I've said before, grab your nuts say it to their face and don't cry about freedom of speech when someone returns your verbal cheap shot with a physical one. Just my opinionHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jcd11235 0 #16 December 11, 2006 QuoteAll I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said. These two sentences are oxymoronic.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #17 December 11, 2006 QuoteTonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Yes, we know he is proud to have served and helped the apartheid."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #18 December 11, 2006 These two sentences are oxymoronic.Quote how so, say what ever you like, but if you are going to say something that could piss someone off don't hide.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #19 December 11, 2006 OOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #20 December 11, 2006 QuoteOOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Bug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #21 December 11, 2006 QuoteBug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon I have nothing but respect for those who serve their country.. because so many will not serve yet run their mouths about the war...so many chickenhawks ... so many wars to run off at the mouth about. I cant respect anyone in this administration.. there are thousands of our servicemen who's lives have been wasted because of the incompetence and lies....I think our military deserves more respect than to waste lives in the wrong place.. at the wrong time.. in the wrong war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 140 #22 December 11, 2006 QuoteIf you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. you say this like Dropzone.com is the USA scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #23 December 11, 2006 you say this like Dropzone.com is the USAQuote umm, I do?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #24 December 11, 2006 I said pretty much the same thing to a current service member this weekend to his face and I got an agreement out of him. Was I wrong for saying it and talking to someone that agrees with Tontos thoughts even though he is in the armed services?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ragnarok 0 #25 December 11, 2006 Give me grief for being a Soldier and going to Iraq? Well, pal - the government YOU voted for (or if you did not vote, bet you will next time!!!) sent us over there._________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 1 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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jcd11235 0 #16 December 11, 2006 QuoteAll I'm saying is if you're going to talk trash be a man and walk up to them and say it. I never said anything implying that he couldn't say what he said. These two sentences are oxymoronic.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #17 December 11, 2006 QuoteTonto is from South Africa.... MANY of them fought some interesintg people and did some rather interesting things in support of western values... That has been a pretty volitile piece of real estate for more than a few years.... I think he and others on here just MIGHT have an inkling on how things work. Yes, we know he is proud to have served and helped the apartheid."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #18 December 11, 2006 These two sentences are oxymoronic.Quote how so, say what ever you like, but if you are going to say something that could piss someone off don't hide.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #19 December 11, 2006 OOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #20 December 11, 2006 QuoteOOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Bug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #21 December 11, 2006 QuoteBug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon I have nothing but respect for those who serve their country.. because so many will not serve yet run their mouths about the war...so many chickenhawks ... so many wars to run off at the mouth about. I cant respect anyone in this administration.. there are thousands of our servicemen who's lives have been wasted because of the incompetence and lies....I think our military deserves more respect than to waste lives in the wrong place.. at the wrong time.. in the wrong war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 140 #22 December 11, 2006 QuoteIf you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. you say this like Dropzone.com is the USA scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #23 December 11, 2006 you say this like Dropzone.com is the USAQuote umm, I do?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #24 December 11, 2006 I said pretty much the same thing to a current service member this weekend to his face and I got an agreement out of him. Was I wrong for saying it and talking to someone that agrees with Tontos thoughts even though he is in the armed services?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ragnarok 0 #25 December 11, 2006 Give me grief for being a Soldier and going to Iraq? Well, pal - the government YOU voted for (or if you did not vote, bet you will next time!!!) sent us over there._________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 1 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Amazon 7 #19 December 11, 2006 OOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #20 December 11, 2006 QuoteOOPS time to go read a bit of recent history...... about Angola.. and SWAPO...there were also some VERY good units that got to go lots of other places in Africa.. and they were VERY VERY good at what they did.. I thought it was just the Britsh you had such a bug on for... Bug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 December 11, 2006 QuoteBug? if you say so, it would equate with your hatred towards US servicemen, I would reckon I have nothing but respect for those who serve their country.. because so many will not serve yet run their mouths about the war...so many chickenhawks ... so many wars to run off at the mouth about. I cant respect anyone in this administration.. there are thousands of our servicemen who's lives have been wasted because of the incompetence and lies....I think our military deserves more respect than to waste lives in the wrong place.. at the wrong time.. in the wrong war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #22 December 11, 2006 QuoteIf you walked down the streets of Paris screaming "fuck you frogs" would you think it unfair or out of place if someone gave you a fat lip? I'm sure you would say someone deserved to get a few bruises if they walked through a black neighborhood screaming racial slurs at people. you say this like Dropzone.com is the USA scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #23 December 11, 2006 you say this like Dropzone.com is the USAQuote umm, I do?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #24 December 11, 2006 I said pretty much the same thing to a current service member this weekend to his face and I got an agreement out of him. Was I wrong for saying it and talking to someone that agrees with Tontos thoughts even though he is in the armed services?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ragnarok 0 #25 December 11, 2006 Give me grief for being a Soldier and going to Iraq? Well, pal - the government YOU voted for (or if you did not vote, bet you will next time!!!) sent us over there._________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 1 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
PhreeZone 20 #24 December 11, 2006 I said pretty much the same thing to a current service member this weekend to his face and I got an agreement out of him. Was I wrong for saying it and talking to someone that agrees with Tontos thoughts even though he is in the armed services?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnarok 0 #25 December 11, 2006 Give me grief for being a Soldier and going to Iraq? Well, pal - the government YOU voted for (or if you did not vote, bet you will next time!!!) sent us over there._________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
