mnealtx 0 #26 December 6, 2006 Quoteand my Nikon is way to heavy and dear to me to put in a pack in that country. I can definitely understand that...I've got a camera backpack for when I'm traveling...luckily, I've got enough clothes at the house, Stateside, that I don't have to check a bag through, as well.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #27 December 6, 2006 Quote I think most of the Western States. have a far healthier attitude to guns than the Eastern states.. plus there is far mor open space to go to use them in long hunting seasons. Yeah, it's because the western states still have enough space to get away from the homicidal maniacs that pervade the eastern US.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #28 December 6, 2006 QuoteQuote I think most of the Western States. have a far healthier attitude to guns than the Eastern states.. plus there is far mor open space to go to use them in long hunting seasons. Yeah, it's because the western states still have enough space to get away from the homicidal maniacs that pervade the eastern US. Per capita the Western states probably have just as many. Yours just take up in mountaintop shacks and such. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #29 December 6, 2006 Quote Yours just take up in mountaintop shacks and such. If they'd stay in their shacks, we'd all get along fine. But they insist on roaming the streets out here. If it weren't for Shock-Trauma, there would be a thousand murders a year here (Baltimore).Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #30 December 6, 2006 I don't think it's an eas/west thing, but rather a country bumpkin/dazzling urbanite thing. I wonder which group is responsible for more gun related injuries and fatalities??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #31 December 6, 2006 QuoteI have been seriously contemplating moving to a state where you aren't a criminal for owning firearms of any kind unless you have harmed someone or something with said firearms. I am looking for honest suggestions and helpful informartion. With that said what are your opinions and why? New Hampshire, Texas, Wyoming, and Montana were the first that popped in my head. Secondary, I'm thinking Oklahoma...um...Utah (?)...Alaska...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #32 December 6, 2006 QuoteI have been seriously contemplating moving to a state where you aren't a criminal for owning firearms of any kind unless you have harmed someone or something with said firearms. I am looking for honest suggestions and helpful informartion. The NRA web site where you can compare state gun laws: http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/ Texas has no registration or licensing required, unless you want to carry a handgun concealed. The only downside is that you can't have a handgun in your car unless you have a concealed handgun license. Other states, like Florida, allow that too without a license. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #33 December 6, 2006 QuoteI'm suprised, in the UK suppressors (Silencers) are legal on firearms (Rifles) Yep, over there it's just considered the polite thing to do, so you don't disturb the neighbors of the shooting range, or your fellow shooters beside you. Here in America, the assumption is that if you have a silencer, that you must be a murderous assassin or sniper, and therefore should get 10 years in prison. So they don't allow us to have silencers, and then they want to shut down the shooting ranges for being too noisy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #34 December 6, 2006 QuoteHere in America, the assumption is that if you have a silencer, that you must be an murderous assassin or sniper, and therefore should get 10 years in prison. ... Well, isn't that what Hollywood tells us in movies? And don't give up on UK yet. I see a lot of Euros characterizing people based on movie stereotypes - at least in SC. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #35 December 6, 2006 QuoteGermany, during the Nazi occupation, so that you can make better comparisons in the future. warpedskydiver, I retract my statement and apologize. After some research I can now understand your comparison. "For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future!" Adolph Hitler"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #36 December 6, 2006 No apology needed, I am very grateful you took the time to read up on it. I wish others would do the same. I wonder why people all act like they know what is best for us, when history proves it only harms us? If you take a rifle, and learn to use it well, you have transformed yourself from a subject to a citizen. I can't remember who said that or similar but the statement is correct. For tyranny to reign there needs to be a subjugation of the people, in order to do that you have to disarm them so they live in fear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #37 December 6, 2006 BTW Adolf was right they have followed his model for the future. Isn't is strange that we (the western nations) have adopted the same policies instituted by the Nazi regime? What is more concerning is that the Untied Nations is touting that line and expects the US/UK and others to totally disarm their perspective nations to include their militaries? Check out the UN small arms non proliferation treaties. The UN is pratically the same as the Nazi party, only packaged in a more politically correct and attractive product to sell to the masses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #38 December 6, 2006 QuoteI'm suprised, in the UK suppressors (Silencers) are legal on firearms (Rifles) FYI: Here's a Wikipedia article on suppressors; their legal status in various countries is in the section entitled, well...Legal Status. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #39 December 6, 2006 Things could be worse. I live in a county controlled by the religious beer taliban. They have successfully kept this county dry by lies, deceit, and tampering with the system. The county was voted dry after the brave men and women left to fight WWII. Been that way ever since. Am I gonna get mad and leave? Yes I am.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #40 December 7, 2006 Bloody hell! What county is that??? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #41 December 7, 2006 National identity cards and even the Litvinenko murder have a lot in common with what your saying 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #42 December 7, 2006 Clark County, ArkansasDo your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #43 December 7, 2006 QuoteIf you take all 50 states, then eliminate all states "where you aren't a criminal for owning firearms of any kind unless you have harmed someone or something with said firearms", and THEN you eliminate "all non-Nazi states", that basically leaves....Montana. I guess I'll see you at Lost Prairie sometime. Agreed. The states that allow firearms more liberally are often Nazi in other ways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #44 December 7, 2006 QuoteNo apology needed, I am very grateful you took the time to read up on it. I wish others would do the same. I wonder why people all act like they know what is best for us, when history proves it only harms us? If you take a rifle, and learn to use it well, you have transformed yourself from a subject to a citizen. I can't remember who said that or similar but the statement is correct. For tyranny to reign there needs to be a subjugation of the people, in order to do that you have to disarm them so they live in fear. Agreed, but subjugation isn;t just by reg and revocation of firearms. Tapping phones secretly and illegally is Naziism. There are many forms of Naziism that this current Nazi in chief does and would do if he could. In fact, Clinton's F'd assault weapons ban that sunsetted after ten years a few years back, NaziBush said he would sign it if it came before him. Fortunately it never came to that as COngress killed it. And why did Bush Sr have his NRA card pulled? So as I said, the more Nazi things are as far as guns, the less Nazi they are as in California. The less Nazi things are with guns, oftne the more Nazi they are in other categories. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #45 December 7, 2006 Quote Isn't is strange that we (the western nations) have adopted the same policies instituted by the Nazi regime? Therefore, anyone who operates a train on time will be dismissed because he is obviously a Fascist sympathizer.My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #46 December 7, 2006 QuoteIsn't is strange that we (the western nations) have adopted the same policies instituted by the Nazi regime? There are many similarities... helmets that our troops use today... sure look like the German model... M-60... seems to have many features of the MG-42... Tanks..... many features found their way into follow ons to the Sherman... directly from the Panzers and Tigers....some of the aircraft designs... and CERTAINLY the importation of the V-2 and the scientists....spawned our efforts at NASA for many years...GI's including Eisenhower were VERY impressed with the Autobahns.... led to ourInterstate roads that spanned the country..lots of parallels that we learned from the Germans.. and applied it.Personally though I think we need to step away from a political system that seems to grow closer to them every year... that is scary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #47 December 7, 2006 QuoteClark County, Arkansas along with most of the rest of the state. I'm still pissed at you for leaving. You suck. Well, really I do, but since you keep a pistol under your pillow, I'll never get the opportunity to sneak into your house for that surprise blowjob....unless I trek off to (what) Montana???? Where the hell is THAT??? linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #48 December 7, 2006 QuoteI have been seriously contemplating moving to a state where you aren't a criminal for owning firearms of any kind unless you have harmed someone or something with said firearms. I am looking for honest suggestions and helpful informartion. With that said what are your opinions and why? Avoid: IL UT CA KS DC MD VA NYIllinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #49 December 7, 2006 QuoteHere if you have anything that is designed to reduce the guns sound without a permit (very hard to get) it is considered a felony. Just to clarify for those not living in the US. It is not very hard to buy a supressor in the US unless you live in a state which they are not allowed. I have no idea what Darius11 means by "very hard to get" but I must assume he is speaking for his specific state. Except if it is legal to purchase them I am not sure what could make it so difficult. You will need to pay the $250 stamp and be approved but that is more of waiiting period than anything. Figure 30 to as much as 60 days to get issued. A suppressed .22 with subsonic ammo is a a fun little plinker. You can shoot all day without bothering anyone. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #50 December 7, 2006 QuoteHere in America, the assumption is that if you have a silencer, that you must be a murderous assassin or sniper, and therefore should get 10 years in prison. So they don't allow us to have silencers, and then they want to shut down the shooting ranges for being too noisy... Some states don't allow. Many do. That is like saying you can not buy full auto weapons in the US. Simply untrue. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites