shropshire 0 #1 December 6, 2006 QuoteTony Blair has agreed with the incoming US defence secretary's assessment that the war in Iraq is not being won. Oh what a surprise clicky (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #2 December 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteTony Blair has agreed with the incoming US defence secretary's assessment that the war in Iraq is not being won. Oh what a surprise clicky _______________________________ Not now, not ever... no way! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 December 6, 2006 shhhh!... Or the Black Helicopters will come and git ya. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #4 December 6, 2006 Quoteshhhh!... Or the Black Helicopters will come and git ya. ________________________________ Yikes! Just because I don't believe we can push our culture and beliefs on a people who want to remain the same as they have for thousands of years? Holy crap! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #5 December 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteshhhh!... Or the Black Helicopters will come and git ya. ________________________________ Yikes! Just because I don't believe we can push our culture and beliefs on a people who want to remain the same as they have for thousands of years? Holy crap! Chuck TREASON!!!! Get Him!!!!!Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #6 December 6, 2006 QuoteIraq 'war' not being won!! It's not? Fooled me. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #7 December 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteshhhh!... Or the Black Helicopters will come and git ya. ________________________________ Yikes! Just because I don't believe we can push our culture and beliefs on a people who want to remain the same as they have for thousands of years? Holy crap! Chuck TREASON!!!! Get Him!!!!! _____________________________ Yeah, right! Here I am! Does Viet Nam, ring a bell? Those folks in Iraq have been feuding since time began and noone is going to change them because they don't want to change. It's just our politicians in this country trying to control the rest of the world. If, they'd put as much effort into the U.S.A, they might get somewhere. I still think, it's all about the oil! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 December 6, 2006 (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #10 December 6, 2006 Hey... dont DUH the messenger - clearly some of us aren't at all surprised.... by the 'Others' have been more silent than is their norm. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #11 December 6, 2006 Quote Last Updated: Wednesday, 6 December 2006, 15:50 GMT E-mail this to a friend Printable version Blair agrees war 'not being won' The report is expected to recommend a phased withdrawal Tony Blair has agreed with the incoming US defence secretary's assessment that the war in Iraq is not being won. Asked by Tory leader David Cameron if he agreed with Robert Gates' assessment of the war, Mr Blair said: "Of course." He added, at prime minister's questions in the Commons: "What's important however is that we go on to succeed in the mission we set ourselves." Well, theres definatly no WMDs I guess we can declare victory now and fuck off safe in the knowledge that the world is a safer place....ErrrmWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #12 December 6, 2006 <<"What's important however is that we go on to succeed in the mission we set ourselves.">> He's a one, isn't he?..... so did he ever say what the mission was? Thought not - TW@ (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #13 December 6, 2006 Maybe George forgot to tell Lenny er.. I mean Tony.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orribolollie 0 #14 December 6, 2006 Why use this rhetoric anyway? Its not about 'winning'..i thought it was about stabilising the country then handing it back to a democratically elected government. (Well personally i think the war was about other motives, but for the sake of the thread). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #15 December 6, 2006 Because that would appear to be a purely charitable act and we dont do them.... We wouldn't spend Billions of £/$ and countless lives... just to stabalise a country (that was stable before we fucked it up anyway!)... I dont buy it. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #16 December 6, 2006 >Why use this rhetoric anyway? Because it garners support for the war. If you can portray it as a choice between winning or losing - which would you vote for? If it's portrayed as an attempt to stabilize a tottering government that will require tens of billions a year (and thousands of US lives) for the forseeable future - well, that's harder to get support for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orribolollie 0 #17 December 6, 2006 Yeah true enough. I guess they lost my vote invading anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #18 December 6, 2006 Quote>Why use this rhetoric anyway? Because it garners support for the war. If you can portray it as a choice between winning or losing - which would you vote for? If it's portrayed as an attempt to stabilize a tottering government that will require tens of billions a year (and thousands of US lives) for the forseeable future - well, that's harder to get support for. Bush and Blair would use deceptive tactics to win popular support for a war? Say it ain't so, Bill.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #19 December 6, 2006 Quote Because that would appear to be a purely charitable act and we dont do them.... We wouldn't spend Billions of £/$ and countless lives... just to stabalise a country (that was stable before we fucked it up anyway!)... I dont buy it. ________________________________ Besides, how else are the 'bought-off' politicians going to maintain the lifestyle to which they've become accustomed by taking pay-offs from the makers of weapons and tanks without a dumb-ass war? So what if thousands of soldiers lives are lost. Crap! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #20 December 6, 2006 The's so much more to all of this than meets the eye and we'll likely, never know the whole truth and extend of the corruption. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #21 December 6, 2006 We will mate, ask David Shayler. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #22 December 6, 2006 QuoteThe's so much more to all of this than meets the eye and we'll likely, never know the whole truth and extend of the corruption. ___________________________________ Don't you know it. Just a huge case of 'mushroom syndrome'! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
