Skyrad 0 #1 December 4, 2006 QuoteAs for the NHS, the last thing it needs is more money thrown at it so we can have more administrators, middle management and paper pushers. Not to mention bizare and inappropriate treatments available on the NHS whilst esential treatments are witheld on the say so of the clowns at NICE. What the NHS needs is a bloody good cull of the waste of space staff as mentioned above and a streamlining and reapraisal of available treatments to bring it back more closely to the founding principles So following a request from the UK nuke thread I'm posting a new thread on the NHS (Britan's National Health Service) My views are as above. My views are based on a decades experience working within the NHS (Not saying that makes them correct, just thats what I'm basing them on).When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #2 December 4, 2006 Whilst I full support your view (based around my wife's experiences as a Nursing Sister), it will take money to get rid of the middle managing scum that have so weakened the jewel in our crown that was the NHS. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #3 December 4, 2006 Unfortunatly the money will be spent by those very same people that we need to sack whilst they sack Dr's, Nurses and PAMS to save their own pathetic necksWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #4 December 4, 2006 That's one of the problems. The hospital closures in our area stinks!! If the Huntingdon A&E closes, peoples lives on the A14 are going to be lost.... Aghhhhh. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 December 4, 2006 I have the PERFECT solution.. not that management will ever allow it... Go to the doctors and nurses in the trenches of day to day doing the actual work... and ask them who is the most useless above them in terms of value.. and then get rid of the dead weight that do nothing..... the people who are actually overworked are the very best ones to help cull those who do not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 December 4, 2006 I dont need to ask.... I get it every time Jane comes home (oh and ususlly late, because they are short staffed) (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #7 December 5, 2006 Quote I have the PERFECT solution.. not that management will ever allow it... Go to the doctors and nurses in the trenches of day to day doing the actual work... and ask them who is the most useless above them in terms of value.. and then get rid of the dead weight that do nothing..... the people who are actually overworked are the very best ones to help cull those who do not. Oh if only!!! And then extend that to anything public owned.....Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 December 5, 2006 <> ??? We still have stuff publicly owned? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #9 December 5, 2006 Tony Blair is such a tosser... He's saying now that A&E units should be in large centralised units.... Does he know NOTHING about the world outside of that London? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #10 December 5, 2006 Even in London that is a totaly retarded idea. A patient would have to travel that much further in London traffic to get treatment. That could make the difference between life and death. Not to mention the elderly or very young who might have difficulty getting to the A&E. Then what would we do with the patients that need admitting to ward or theatre? They would require transfer to another hospital and that would streatch even further a Ambulance service that is close to breaking as it is. Polititions should leave the NHS to be run by people who know what the hell they are doing. (Just as they should leave wars to be fought by Soldiers and not interfere there either)When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #11 December 5, 2006 QuoteEven in London that is a totaly retarded idea. Never underestimate the retardedness of people from large cities. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #12 December 5, 2006 Quote<> ??? We still have stuff publicly owned? Yep - the government Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #13 December 5, 2006 And to think that today i read something that says that Gordon Brown thinks we have a very strong NHS compared to when Labour took power.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #14 December 5, 2006 <>> Dont they own us? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #15 December 5, 2006 They all need to get out more. Their [major] problem is that, every time that they (or theirs) need treatment, they get it, straight away, no waiting lists, no waiting in a queue with the great unwashed. Their neighbourhoods are always well policed and groomed. Never a street light out or wheely bin left unemptied. They never need to use public transport and never wait for a parkingspace. All-in-all their lives so are idilic and so far removed from ours and reality. Yeas we can vote them out ..... but not yet awhile. Meanwhile, they will continue to fuck us over - BASTARDS (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #16 December 5, 2006 And they are pressing for a 66% payrise Hmmmm Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #17 December 5, 2006 And there's no one to stop they, either [Rant ...... to be continued] (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites