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At least you actually addressed my points. :o

Good for you. ;)



Winter Solstice - the season of goodwill - is coming.
My Solstice lights are up. I'll go out for my Solstice Tree this weekend.
Don't expect Mr. Nice Guy for ever.:P
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Winter Solstice - the season of goodwill - is coming.
My Solstice lights are up. I'll go out for my Solstice Tree this weekend.

I would have taken you for one of those tree huggers who thinks it's a crime to cut a tree unnecessarily.

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>I would have taken you for one of those tree huggers who thinks
>it's a crime to cut a tree unnecessarily.

Just a tangent here -

I have no problems with people cutting trees down (provided they don't destroy the area doing so.) But I do find it ironic that we use evergreen trees as a christmas symbol of eternal life. Then two weeks after christmas, sad-looking dead brown trees start appearing in garbage cans. Eternal life, at least until we dispose of it.

Of course, the old testament tells you specifically NOT to put up christmas trees, so maybe it's silly to call it a christmas tradition anyway. (Was originally a pagan celebration of the solstice.)

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Winter Solstice - the season of goodwill - is coming.
My Solstice lights are up. I'll go out for my Solstice Tree this weekend.

I would have taken you for one of those tree huggers who thinks it's a crime to cut a tree unnecessarily.



There's no shortage of trees around here. There's a Solstice Tree farm right next to the DZ even.

Both Christmas and Easter are fake, of course. Christmas was just superimposed on Saturnalia on the orders of some Pope, and Easter on the festival of Eostre, goddess of the dawn.
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It was the boy's unwise actions that led to his death.



That's why MINORS are considered to have improperly developed judgment and sense of responsibilty. ADULTS are supposed to protect them from their unwise actions.


Unless they are having sex with a Democrat in Congress. :o



Did I claim that? Stick to the point.



Okay. How about this? Using the "lack of developed judgement and sense of responsibility" is a fine illustration of the culture of victimology. I call bullshit on any claim that the officier should have known the young man lacked the maturity to understand that trying to escape is a bad idea.

I wonder how many thug juveline deliquents have convinced judges that they should be aquitted because they lacked the maturity to understand that their actions were wrong.

Crack me up. :D:D:D

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It was the boy's unwise actions that led to his death.



That's why MINORS are considered to have improperly developed judgment and sense of responsibilty. ADULTS are supposed to protect them from their unwise actions.
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Unless they are having sex with a Democrat in Congress. :o



Or getting an abortion without parental consent.

keep the list going.......

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It was the boy's unwise actions that led to his death.



That's why MINORS are considered to have improperly developed judgment and sense of responsibilty. ADULTS are supposed to protect them from their unwise actions.
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Unless they are having sex with a Democrat in Congress. :o



Or getting an abortion without parental consent.

keep the list going.......



"Or ... dressing me like a mailman ... uh, and making me dance for you ... while you go and ... smoke crack in your bedroom ... and have sex with ... some guy ... I don't even know. On my dad's bed." Eric Cartman
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Are you implying that the taxpayers, who are ultimately paying the bill, be held responsible for the actions of one being negligent and causing property and or bodily harm to another for the lost and or injury. Would you forgive some one who runs a stopsign and hits your car and pay the damage yourself? "No, they should pay for the damage. Hope they have insurance", i think you would say. You might say otherwise.



Funny you should mention it, but I do say otherwise. The person went through a giveway sign and collected me. Me, as in person, not my car.

As for the taxpayer comment, I’m happily living back in Australia and so whether I sued the person who hit me or not, my medical bills are covered by the government.

Like I said earlier, there's some real perks to living in a country that considers the health of its citizens to be a national asset! [:/]
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"I wouldn't recommend picking a fight with the earth...but then I wouldn't recommend picking a fight with a car either, and that's having tried both."

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I see no reason to go after someone in civil court (other than sheer pettiness) when criminal charges, memories and guilt will suffice.


There is nothing petty in demanding that another be responsible for their actions and compensate the one whom they caused harm to.



There is a BIG difference between making someone accept responsibility (legally and criminally) and between making them endure further hardship by pursuing a civil lawsuit for monetary damages that I do not need and that would pose unnecessary hardship on a person who has accepted responsibility for their actions and is remorseful.
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"I wouldn't recommend picking a fight with the earth...but then I wouldn't recommend picking a fight with a car either, and that's having tried both."

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I would not give up my standards and integrity for mere money.


The standard has always been to be compensated for lose or injury that another has caused you. It goes back to the oldest recorded history. At one time it was goats and sheep. At another it was salt. Today it is the currency currently in use. The integrity lies on the the guilty party. May it be a fender bender or minor to lethal bodily harm it is their responsibility to correct it. The money is merely the standard for what is deemed to of most value.



Some of us measure worth in more important terms than mere money and I am generally not of the eye-for-an-eye line of thinking.

Sure, there are some people for whom money is the only thing they hold of worth. But there are also a good number of people who accept the consequences of their actions, pay the price for their mistakes and who shouldn’t have their entire lives destroyed for no other reason than it suits someone’s financial-desires, which is not to be confused with a person's financial needs. Even more so when it is merely to feed someone’s desire for what can only be described as nothing shy of retribution.

The flaw in the logic of laying blame and pursuing civil litigation, is that we assume that we will never make a mistake ourselves.

Edited to add:I am neither blind nor foolish enough, to think that under some type of circumstances I would NEVER have made such a mistake as this person did.
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There is a BIG difference between making someone accept responsibility (legally and criminally) and between making them endure further hardship by pursuing a civil lawsuit for monetary damages that I do not need and that would pose unnecessary hardship on a person who has accepted responsibility for their actions and is remorseful.

I commend you for your personal integrity. It seems to be a rare quality these days.

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that would pose unnecessary hardship on a person who has accepted responsibility for their actions and is remorseful.

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I see no issue with your scenario. The state covers your medical bills and then the state goes and gets reimbersed by the insurance of the guy that caused it. The victim (you) doesn't have to deal with it, the Oz taxpayers don't have to pay for what his insurance should cover.

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And don't the parents share some responsibility for not having a minor in their charge, home and sober at 3am?



EXACTLY, why hasn't anyone pointed teh blame on teh parents, hell what if the dad got the kid drunk, is it still then the police officers fault. I understand the police should in some way be counseled, maybe re-trained, but in no way should be punished, the kid was a fuck up, he got himself killed while the police officers were trying to protect others on the roads. let's look at what led to the kid dying, he got drunk udnerage(illegal), he drove without a license(illegal), he drove while drunk(illegal), there was probably some sort of a curfew for minors in that area(illegal), didn't the report mention speeding(illegal), the kid tried to escape after being arrested(illegal), yep its all the cops fault. if a grown man had done this would anyone give a shit. i think the parents should be punished for allowing it to happen, and the officers recieve some sort of re-training on procedures after taking a minor into custody(but NOT be punished). It's a sad state of affairs when people go on a witch hunt for cops anytime someone dies, yes ther are bad cops out there, but does that mean everytime someone dies within 100 meters of a cop we should fry the cop.
History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

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