kallend 2,146 #1 November 23, 2006 I am taken aback this week at the level of disenchantment with and dislike of the president and his men--not among Democrats, but among Republicans. On the Hill they no longer see the White House as talented and formidable. They see it as shuttered and second-rate. There are bitter anecdotes about the way the White House has rigged and controlled events, only to blame those who followed them when disaster ensues. There are more anecdotes about the president's refusal or inability to absorb information he emotionally resists: the senator who kept telling him the past year what trouble the party was in only to be ignored, the former congressman who pressed the point with the president and received a tongue lashing. There is increased criticism too of the habit of high White House staffers to muscle critics, silence dissent, force obedience. Peggy Noonan, WSJ 11/17/06... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #2 November 23, 2006 No it's not the WSJ. It's Peggy Noonan, a very intelligent former Reagan speechwriter and columnist for the WSJ and a few other publications. She's commenting on the political posturing and inevitable lame duck mentality that decends on a 2 term President in his 6th year who has just lost control over Congress. Expect to see more of it in the near future. Out with the old...in with the new...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #3 November 23, 2006 This president like his father has lost touch with or ignored the American public long before he became a lame duck. The issue of immigration and border security is a prime example.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #4 November 23, 2006 QuoteThis president like his father has lost touch with or ignored the American public long before he became a lame duck. The issue of immigration and border security is a prime example. I agree. I'd add spending to your list too. Bush never portrayed himself as a conservative and it's disingenuous for those who thought he was to now feel betrayed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #5 November 23, 2006 QuoteQuote Bush never portrayed himself as a conservative and it's disingenuous for those who thought he was to now feel betrayed. "And I am a compassionate conservative, because I know my philosophy is optimistic and full of hope for every American.", George W. Bush. What is a "compassionate conservative" exactly? "I want to be a president who sets a tone, a direction, an agenda. I will be an activist president, who sets goals worthy of a great nation. I won’t use my office as a mirror to reflect public opinion. And I’ll be guided by conservative principles. Government should do a few things, and do them well. Government should not try to be all things to all people." GWB, 6/12/99 "I am a conservative because I believe in the power of each individual. My philosophy trusts individuals to make the right decisions for their families and communities [instead of] from distant bureaucracies. I am a conservative because I believe government should be limited and efficient. I am a conservative because I believe in a strong national defense [and] I support free markets and free trade. I am a conservative because I believe government closest to the people governs best." GWB 12/9/1999 So I guess you too are claiming that Bush is a liar Do you agree that the White House is second-rate and bullying? You have been a consistent and vocal supporter of GWB' administration over the past many years. Was that just because you wanted to pay less tax?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #6 November 23, 2006 QuoteThis president like his father has lost touch with or ignored the American public long before he became a lame duck. The issue of immigration and border security is a prime example. To I point, I agree with your statement, however, it was Congress who didn't bring something forward for the President to sign. The President made these part of his main platform following the 04 election. Did he push it enough? No. Did Congress sandbag the issues, yes.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhys 0 #7 November 23, 2006 The Dood is washed up already, everybody hates him now! except the KKK oops i meant NRA of course?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #8 November 24, 2006 QuoteThe Dood is washed up already, everybody hates him now! except the KKK oops i meant NRA of course? Seems that some Texans and a few others still love him. They can't make up their minds how he portrayed himself, though. Bush stated very clearly "I am a conservative", while GM claims he said no such thing.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #9 November 24, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe Dood is washed up already, everybody hates him now! except the KKK oops i meant NRA of course? Seems that some Texans and a few others still love him. They can't make up their minds how he portrayed himself, though. Bush stated very clearly "I am a conservative", while GM claims he said no such thing. I'm calling my cat a dog from now on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jpjc2000 0 #10 November 24, 2006 This statement could be made in reference to ANY past administration...funny how politics work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #11 November 24, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe Dood is washed up already, everybody hates him now! except the KKK oops i meant NRA of course? Seems that some Texans and a few others still love him. They can't make up their minds how he portrayed himself, though. Bush stated very clearly "I am a conservative", while GM claims he said no such thing. I'm calling my cat a dog from now on. So you admit he lied when he said "I am a conservative"? Or did you misrepresent the facts when you said "Bush never portrayed himself as a conservative"? I'm having a hard time figuring out what you are saying.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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Gawain 0 #6 November 23, 2006 QuoteThis president like his father has lost touch with or ignored the American public long before he became a lame duck. The issue of immigration and border security is a prime example. To I point, I agree with your statement, however, it was Congress who didn't bring something forward for the President to sign. The President made these part of his main platform following the 04 election. Did he push it enough? No. Did Congress sandbag the issues, yes.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #7 November 23, 2006 The Dood is washed up already, everybody hates him now! except the KKK oops i meant NRA of course?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #8 November 24, 2006 QuoteThe Dood is washed up already, everybody hates him now! except the KKK oops i meant NRA of course? Seems that some Texans and a few others still love him. They can't make up their minds how he portrayed himself, though. Bush stated very clearly "I am a conservative", while GM claims he said no such thing.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #9 November 24, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe Dood is washed up already, everybody hates him now! except the KKK oops i meant NRA of course? Seems that some Texans and a few others still love him. They can't make up their minds how he portrayed himself, though. Bush stated very clearly "I am a conservative", while GM claims he said no such thing. I'm calling my cat a dog from now on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jpjc2000 0 #10 November 24, 2006 This statement could be made in reference to ANY past administration...funny how politics work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #11 November 24, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe Dood is washed up already, everybody hates him now! except the KKK oops i meant NRA of course? Seems that some Texans and a few others still love him. They can't make up their minds how he portrayed himself, though. Bush stated very clearly "I am a conservative", while GM claims he said no such thing. I'm calling my cat a dog from now on. So you admit he lied when he said "I am a conservative"? Or did you misrepresent the facts when you said "Bush never portrayed himself as a conservative"? I'm having a hard time figuring out what you are saying.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
