Internment of Muslims within the USA

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Pat Hogan, spokesman for the Metropolitan Airports Commission, said that witnesses to Monday's events told police that before the flight that besides praying, the imams were spouting anti-American rhetoric, talking about the war in Iraq and Saddam Hussein.

Hearsay, maybe the were discussing the war. How many white Hispani or Oriental Americans do the same? if they were 'spouting Anti American rhetoric then why were they not stopped from even getting onto the plane??? As for asking for a seatbelt extension there could be many reasons for wanting one, maybe he had a stoma for example. Maybe he was a fat git, who knows? I doubt that it was because he couldn't fit his bomb under the belt and was worried he'd hurt himself if the plane crashed

How is life in a vacuum?

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Your premise is flawed.

The six Imams were not arrested for praying on a plane. They were told to get off the plane because their praying was upsetting to other travelers. The vocalist for Prodigy was once kicked off a plane for, well, looking the way he does. He got off the plane so he was not arrested.

The Imams were arrested for not complying with an order to get off the plane. If you are asked or told to get off a plane...do it.

And yes, I would be very suspect of a group of Southern Baptists should they decide to have a group prayer in the same situation. And I would support having them removed. There may be a notorious abortion doctor on the plane they are planning to take out.

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So is yours It now turns out they wern't even praying on the plane, they prayed in the terminal. Someone just got twichy about them because they were a bit foriegn looking.

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Your premise is flawed.

The six Imams were not arrested for praying on a plane. They were told to get off the plane because their praying was upsetting to other travelers. The vocalist for Prodigy was once kicked off a plane for, well, looking the way he does. He got off the plane so he was not arrested.

The Imams were arrested for not complying with an order to get off the plane. If you are asked or told to get off a plane...do it.

And yes, I would be very suspect of a group of Southern Baptists should they decide to have a group prayer in the same situation. And I would support having them removed. There may be a notorious abortion doctor on the plane they are planning to take out.

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People need to get a little more cultural awareness so they do not panic over cultural differences.

At my university we have faculty and students from all 50 US states and 90 other nations. My department head is from Azerbaijan, his boss (the dean) is from Iran, and his boss (the provost) is Jewish, as is the university president. After a while you simply take these things in your stride.

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Should that be the case. It still stands they were not arrested for praying on the plane. They were arrested for not getting off the plane.

If these gentlemen had no intention of causing any harm, which is most likely the case, then it sucks that they were asked to depart the aircraft. But it is not out of the ordinary for this to occur. I know of one case where a friend would have been barred from flying had she not agreed to remove her nose ring.

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Should that be the case. It still stands they were not arrested for praying on the plane. They were arrested for not getting off the plane.

Can you show me to an article where it states that? My understanding is that the police came on the plane to take them off at the request of the pilot. My understanding is that before that happened they were not asked to deplane.

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Some stuff reported in the NYT:

"Morgan Durrant, a US Airways spokesman, said the airline was investigating the episode. But he said the crew had acted in accordance with the company’s policy for removing passengers, though he declined to give specifics on the policy"

They weren't arrested, but were removed from the plane at the request of the pilot. Perfectly legal, so far as I can tell.

Mike
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barred from flying had she not agreed to remove her nose ring.

WHAT? You have got to be joking!

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They weren't arrested, but were removed from the plane at the request of the pilot. Perfectly legal, so far as I can tell.

In handcuffs. is that the normal policy for US Airways, that the request to leave is accompagnied by federal agents and handcuffs?

I want to know if they were first politely asked to leave and theyd eclined or if federal agents showed up and "asked" them to leave with handcuffs.

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They weren't arrested, but were removed from the plane at the request of the pilot. Perfectly legal, so far as I can tell.

In handcuffs. is that the normal policy for US Airways, that the request to leave is accompagnied by federal agents and handcuffs?

I want to know if they were first politely asked to leave and theyd eclined or if federal agents showed up and "asked" them to leave with handcuffs.

Don't know - you'd have to ask US Air. I've not read anywhere whether they went peaceably or if they caused a ruckus.

I'd also read somewhere (can't recall where at the moment, there's a ton of sites talking about this) that a couple of them had taken seats other than what they were assigned and hassled the FA's about it, and also that several had asked for seatbelt extensions, but weren't overweight. That's unsubstantiated info from a discussion board, btw - I've not seen that in any news reports.

I think (as usual) the truth will be somewhere between what the news is reporting and what the men themselves have to say.

Mike
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So far 70% of respondents are for some form of internment or deportation, guess you're in the minority.

This is exactly why we have a Bill of Rights amended onto our Constitution, to protect the rights and liberties of our citizens from whatever majority opinion may be in vogue at any given time. But the fact that those rights exist on paper hasn't always been much help to Native Americans, Black Americans, or most infamously to Japanese Americans during WWII. I would hope not to see that mistake repeated, where loyal American citizens wer interned in camps simply for who they were, rather than anything they had - or actually had NOT done (their sons fought in the 442nd Nisei Regiment, the most heavily decorated regiment of the entire war).

We can still lose this war by betraying our own values here at home.

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I beleive it's also a commitment of the koran to kill infidels

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I beleive it's also a commitment of the koran to kill infidels

Really? Can you point to a specific part of the Koran, or is this just soemthing you have once heard and believe to be true?

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>I beleive it's also a commitment of the koran to kill infidels

And the bible instructs christian invaders to kill all the men, children and older women in the cities they attack. They are to keep the young virgin women "for themselves."

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I beleive it's also a commitment of the koran to kill infidels

Really? Can you point to a specific part of the Koran, or is this just soemthing you have once heard and believe to be true?

9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

Mike
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I believe any criminal act of foriegners here, especially the freeloaders form Russia and asia that got the free ride deal should be immediately deported back,not filling ourprison systems costing more tax dollars that a plane ride. I was in court once and listened as the Juge told this russian car thief that "in your country the government owns the cars but ours are personal proerty and that is not acceptable here". I think he got 2 weeks and community service. Bullshit! These gangs are professional. Taking allthe interior out, then find car at salvage auction then resell salvage car at 30% less then actual value. If they cant contribute then ship them back. This would stop ALOT of crime.

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Thanks, now I am sure you know that the bible has very similar language in it right?

Is it also a commitment of christians to kill all non-christians? Or is that one of those parts in the bible we shouldn't take literally anymore, but we should take the Koran literally on the same subject?

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Thanks, now I am sure you know that the bible has very similar language in it right?

Is it also a commitment of christians to kill all non-christians? Or is that one of those parts in the bible we shouldn't take literally anymore, but we should take the Koran literally on the same subject?

The "kill the unbelievers" Old Testament is balanced/overruled by the "turn the other cheek" New Testament. Is there something similar in the Koran that countermands those sura?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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>Is there something similar in the Koran that countermands those sura?


"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not do aggression, for God loves not the aggressors." (2:190)

"O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for God, witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear God; indeed God is acquainted with what you do" (5:8)

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I see it is already answered.

so in short, yes there is.