Internment of Muslims within the USA

[Skyrad 0]

So after reading about the six Muslims arrested for praying on a plane I was wondering how long it would be before the US Government decided to intern Muslims as suspect enemy combatants or sympathisers. Would you support such a move? How about expatriation for Muslims who were not born in the USA?

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[mnealtx 0]

I don't envision it happening until and unless there is an another attack from jihadists within the US. I'd like to say that I can't envision it happening at all, but I truly don't think the public could be that level-headed.

Mike
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[rehmwa 2]

Internment of any group or class of people is purely wrong.

Imprisonment of law breakers is a good thing. But that applies to individuals, not an entire subgroup.

I don't even see where the poll came from, really. But even as dumb as the "public" can be, this really gives them no credit.

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[Amazon 7]

Interesting choice of poll options so I declined.

I think that says more about where this is all going than anything else I have seen.



Jail anyone who breaks our laws....if they are found guilty of an offence in a court of law.

If Islamic extremeists keep insisting on martyrdom by attacking in this country.. then I have NO PROBLEM whatsoever with removing the offending persons... WAR is a bitch. I think that more than a few millions of muslims will be going up in radioactive clouds in the not too distant future if they are unwilling to live with people in other parts of the world who do not follow their faith.

[NCclimber 0]

One key component of good trolling is offering attractive bait. Otherwise, they all just swim on by.

I wonder if we'll start the internment of breast feeding mothers???

[Skyrad 0]

So far 70% of respondents are for some form of internment or deportation, guess you're in the minority.

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[Skyrad 0]

Actually this one is troll post. I'm genuinly interested in the attitudes of people in the US when it comes to Muslims.

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[rehmwa 2]

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So far 70% of respondents are for some form of internment or deportation, guess you're in the minority.

hell, I can't even spell internment

how about deport those here illegally, treat those that are here legally under the law as it applies to individuals... But for certain crimes, deportation is a potential punishment as well.

I'd select that one but it wasn't offerred - and I answer polls randomly just to add variation

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[billvon 3,090]

>treat those that are here legally under the law as it applies to individuals...

But . . . but . . . what if some people are scared of them?

[rehmwa 2]

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>treat those that are here legally under the law as it applies to individuals...

But . . . but . . . what if some people are scared of them?

why, are they performing with sock puppets?

(Frankly, these iman's were stupid and very insensitive. I don't doubt they were purposely trying to make some kind of political 'statement' - and you know what I think that kind of attitude. Maybe they'll next go 'protest' at a funeral somewhere.

The airline STILL should have the option to ask the imans to leave in lieu of the other passengers if that's what works best for the flight. )

So, how many passengers asked to be put on a different flight?
Was it greater than 5? 10?

The airline should be able to make a business decision at some point without the hassle.

But, take your scenario and see if anyone can be consistent

5 praying imans - quietly in their seats
5 praying imans - obtuse and blocking the aisle
5 praying middle easterners, twitching and holding their coats tight and sweating and cursing under their breath
5 black people minding their own business
5 clansmen in cloaks - but quiet
5 drunks convention goers
5 women doing an aisle striptease
5 AMWAY salesmen
5 real estate agents
5 smokers swearing at stews and refusing to douse the nic-sticks
5 women with teething babies
the Osmonds

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[billvon 3,090]

>Frankly, these iman's were stupid and very insensitive.

I don't think you know that. They may have been.

>I don't doubt they were purposely trying to make some kind of political 'statement'

Again, I don't think you know that either. They may have been. But how about we go after people for what they DO - not what we think they're doing?

>Maybe they'll next go 'protest' at a funeral somewhere.

True. I was at a funeral a few years back, and there were some insensitive people praying there, too.

But let's go through your list just for grins:

5 praying imans - quietly in their seats

no problem

5 praying imans - obtuse and blocking the aisle

inconsiderate. If they refuse to be seated during descent, then arrest em for refusing to comply with crewmember instructions

5 praying middle easterners, twitching and holding their coats tight and sweating and cursing under their breath

On a plane going to a Tourette's convention? Annoying.

At the security checkpoint? Ask em to take their coats off. If they refuse, deny them entry. If they threaten the people there, arrest them.

5 black people minding their own business

no problem

5 clansmen in cloaks - but quiet

assholes. Glare at them and mutter under your breath.

5 drunks convention goers

no problem. If they disobey the flight crew? Arrest them.

5 women doing an aisle striptease

Paid performers on a Hooters Airline flight? No problem. Random passengers? Let the flight crew make the call. If they refuse to put their clothes on after being told to do so by the flight crews? Arrest em .

5 AMWAY salesmen

Glare at em. Better yet, tell them you are the financial minister of Nigeria, and will happily give them 17 million dollars if you can just have their credit card number and bank account information.

5 smokers swearing at stews and refusing to douse the nic-sticks

If they disobey the stews? Arrest em.

5 women with teething babies

annoying.

the Osmonds

Well, that's different. They have to be ejected at all costs.

[NCclimber 0]

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>Frankly, these iman's were stupid and very insensitive.

I don't think you know that. They may have been.

>I don't doubt they were purposely trying to make some kind of political 'statement'

Again, I don't think you know that either. They may have been. But how about we go after people for what they DO - not what we think they're doing?

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Pat Hogan, spokesman for the Metropolitan Airports Commission, said that witnesses to Monday's events told police that before the flight that besides praying, the imams were spouting anti-American rhetoric, talking about the war in Iraq and Saddam Hussein.

One of the imams was heard saying that he would do whatever is necessary to fulfill his commitment to the Qur'an, witnesses told police, Hogan said. Other witnesses said some of the imams were repeating "Allah, Allah," he said.

And a couple of the imams asked for seat-belt extensions, even though it did not appear they needed them, Hogan said.

All of this made passengers, the attendants and the pilot uncomfortable, Hogan said. As a result, the pilot called police to have the imams escorted from plane.

Nothing suspicious here, folks. Move along. Enjoy your flight.

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the Osmonds

Well, that's different. They have to be ejected at all costs.

Finally, a voice of reason.

steveOrino

[Richards 0]

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I don't envision it happening until and unless there is an another attack from jihadists within the US. I'd like to say that I can't envision it happening at all, but I truly don't think the public could be that level-headed.

Morally reprehensible but if a full out war were to break out then society tends to get a bit knee jerk.

Richards

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[rehmwa 2]

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Again, I don't think you know that either. They may have been. But how about we go after people for what they DO - not what we think they're doing?

You know that's always my opinion, I can still be annoyed and mutter at them for being impotent freaks using a half assed method of conflictive free speech.

And I can say I DO know they were stupid and very insensitive. The second bit I was speculating that they were doing it on purpose. If that 2nd bit is true, then I'd like to delete the word 'stupid' and replace it with 'jerks' - and that IS the equivalent of yelling FIRE in a crowded theater.

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

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the imams were spouting anti-American rhetoric, talking about the war in Iraq and Saddam Hussein.....One of the imams was heard saying that he would do whatever is necessary to fulfill his commitment to the Qur'an

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Nothing suspicious here, folks. Move along. Enjoy your flight.

What is so damn suspicious? The war in Iraq and Saddam Hussein are current topics and I would assume many people would discuss them. At an international airport you would even get quite a few who are anti-american. pretty scary when people are labeled as suspicious because of their political views.

Lastly, what is so scary of a guy saying he will do whatever is necessary to fulfill his commitment to the Qur'an? I am pretty sure that America isn't mentioned in there. It is certainly not mentioned that the US must be destroyed or attacked or anything like that

Sounds like terrorists have you running scared.....

[Butters 0]

The internment of (legal) Muslims is against everything this country stands for. (Illegal Muslims should be deported instead of being placed in internment camps.) This country (along with many others) has made that mistake before and should learn from it so as not to repeat it.

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[FrancoR 0]

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So far 70% of respondents are for some form of internment or deportation, guess you're in the minority.

And i guess minorities don't count much in a one two party political system...



Franco

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[kbordson 8]

I do not believe in relocation camps. Americans are Free.

We were wrong with isolating the Americans of Japanese descent in WWII and it would be wrong to do it now.

If there are "enemies among us," then it's one of two categories.
-Either people who want to change policy and make this country a better place.... and I would allow them to make the statement.
-Or those intent on destroying our beliefs... by forcing us to betray our freedoms as one of the first steps.

I would rather live in a free society with that risk.

[akarunway 1]

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>Frankly, these iman's were stupid and very insensitive.

I don't think you know that. They may have been.

>I don't doubt they were purposely trying to make some kind of political 'statement'

Again, I don't think you know that either. They may have been. But how about we go after people for what they DO - not what we think they're doing?

>Maybe they'll next go 'protest' at a funeral somewhere.

True. I was at a funeral a few years back, and there were some insensitive people praying there, too.

But let's go through your list just for grins:

5 praying imans - quietly in their seats

no problem

5 praying imans - obtuse and blocking the aisle

inconsiderate. If they refuse to be seated during descent, then arrest em for refusing to comply with crewmember instructions

5 praying middle easterners, twitching and holding their coats tight and sweating and cursing under their breath

On a plane going to a Tourette's convention? Annoying.

At the security checkpoint? Ask em to take their coats off. If they refuse, deny them entry. If they threaten the people there, arrest them.

5 black people minding their own business

no problem

5 clansmen in cloaks - but quiet

assholes. Glare at them and mutter under your breath.

5 drunks convention goers

no problem. If they disobey the flight crew? Arrest them.

5 women doing an aisle striptease

Paid performers on a Hooters Airline flight? No problem. Random passengers? Let the flight crew make the call. If they refuse to put their clothes on after being told to do so by the flight crews? Arrest em .

5 AMWAY salesmen

Glare at em. Better yet, tell them you are the financial minister of Nigeria, and will happily give them 17 million dollars if you can just have their credit card number and bank account information.

5 smokers swearing at stews and refusing to douse the nic-sticks

If they disobey the stews? Arrest em.

5 women with teething babies

annoying.

the Osmonds

Well, that's different. They have to be ejected at all costs.

ROFL. Thanks

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I feel it, when I sorrow most;
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[akarunway 1]

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The internment of (legal) Muslims is against everything this country stands for. (Illegal Muslims should be deported instead of being placed in internment camps.) This country (along with many others) has made that mistake before and should learn from it so as not to repeat it.

I'm hearing voices in my head. GITMO GITMO GITMO

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I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Skyrad 0]

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the Osmonds

LOL

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[Skyrad 0]

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One of the imams was heard saying that he would do whatever is necessary to fulfill his commitment to the Qur'an, witnesses told police,

It is a commitment in the Koran to pray five times a day.

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Hogan said. Other witnesses said some of the imams were repeating "Allah, Allah," he said.

The Muslim pray starts with Allah'u Akabar repeated three times.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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[Skyrad 0]

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Pat Hogan, spokesman for the Metropolitan Airports Commission, said that witnesses to Monday's events told police that before the flight that besides praying, the imams were spouting anti-American rhetoric, talking about the war in Iraq and Saddam Hussein.

Hearsay, maybe the were discussing the war. How many white Hispani or Oriental Americans do the same? if they were 'spouting Anti American rhetoric then why were they not stopped from even getting onto the plane??? As for asking for a seatbelt extension there could be many reasons for wanting one, maybe he had a stoma for example. Maybe he was a fat git, who knows? I doubt that it was because he couldn't fit his bomb under the belt and was worried he'd hurt himself if the plane crashed

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[kallend 2,118]

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Other witnesses said some of the imams were repeating "Allah, Allah," he said.

Oh dear!

I've heard people repeat "Hail Mary". I think they must have been getting ready to throw hand grenades.

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