What a Shame. The Propaganda is Working Over There

[rushmc 23]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/af264dbe-77f6-11db-be09-0000779e2340.html

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

...and I predict it will take less than 10 years to prove me right.

It is only a question of how many countries will damage thier economies before they figure it out.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 2]

They will erect a shrine to you. Keep your eyebrows plucked so the statue looks good.

[billvon 3,107]

>It is only a question of how many countries will damage thier
>economies before they figure it out.

Toyota has already realized that they can become the #1 automaker in the world by working on solutions instead of sticking their heads in the sand. Ask any Toyota exec if they think that trying to fix the problem is destroying them.

Every time new science or technology comes along, companies can take two general paths. They can accept it and see how they can profit from it - or they can resist it and hope it goes away. The carriagemakers who thought they could convert their horse-drawn carriages to internal combustion engines? William Durant made the switch; you may have heard of his company, Buick (later General Motors.) Gottlieb Daimler realized he had to get away from making only horse-drawn carriages. He teamed up with Karl Benz. You may have heard of Mercedes-Benz; they've done OK by "believing the propaganda."

The companies that stuck their heads in the sand, and thought that internal combustion engines were a passing fad, a propaganda ploy to replace the old reliable horse that the economy was based on? Well, you don't hear much about them. They're gone.

Today the same thing is happening. Toyota is making a lot of money with their low-emissions cars, and is poised to become the largest automaker in the world. General Motors is floundering with its line of massive gas guzzlers. But even they are wising up; they're launching a plug-in hybrid project intended to hit the road in 3-4 years. Will that be enough to save them? We'll see.

The smart money is on the future, not the past. Always has been. PV manufacturers are cleaning up - the worldwide demand is incredible. Hybrids are fetching a premium price. So yes, economies are going to be damaged (witness GM) and there's going to be a lot of turmoil in the coming decades. Want to avoid being on the losing side of the equation? Invest in the future rather than trying to hold onto the past and hoping all this "global warming nonsense" goes away.

[Channman 2]

> "global warming nonsense"

Global warming as preached is alot of nonsense, however new tecnology is leading the way to a better environment and more fuel efficent autos.

NASA is working on new technology for Plasma Engines that have a realitivly slow excelleration when compared to other rocket motors, but this engine has no top end. This engine just keeps on going faster and faster using very little fuel.

[kallend 2,146]

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...and I predict it will take less than 10 years to prove me right.

It is only a question of how many countries will damage thier economies before they figure it out.

Maybe we should look at how some of your other predictions turned out before taking you too seriously.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[n23x 0]

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"NASA is working on new technology for Plasma Engines that have a realitivly slow excelleration when compared to other rocket motors, but this engine has no top end. This engine just keeps on going faster and faster using very little fuel."

Where in the hell did this come from?

.jim

"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC

[Samurai136 0]

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"NASA is working on new technology for Plasma Engines that have a realitivly slow excelleration when compared to other rocket motors, but this engine has no top end. This engine just keeps on going faster and faster using very little fuel."

Where in the hell did this come from?

.jim

Original poster is interested in colonizing other planets?

"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian
Ken

[n23x 0]

I guess so.

Time for me to interject my own useless bit of information:
I almost burned down my apartment by shorting out an 80V 20A power supply in my kitchen!

.jim

"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC

[billvon 3,107]

>I almost burned down my apartment by shorting out an 80V 20A power supply in my kitchen!

I just built a traction battery for an electric bike out of 80 18650-sized lithium ion batteries! And nothing has blown up yet.

[akarunway 1]

Pics?

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[rushmc 23]

I am not against newer tech fuel and cleaner running equipment. I am against lying and making up a reason to do it.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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...and I predict it will take less than 10 years to prove me right.

It is only a question of how many countries will damage thier economies before they figure it out.

Maybe we should look at how some of your other predictions turned out before taking you too seriously.

Ouch

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 2]

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I am not against newer tech fuel and cleaner running equipment. I am against lying and making up a reason to do it.

While it will probably do no good, I'm going to go out on a limb here: Just because a certain issue is supported by some people who also happen to be "liberals" doesn't make it a lie. I suspect that if the global warming issue - framed exactly as it currently is - was an issue which, at its outset, was championed by conservatives you'd support it. But you're so obsessed with this paranoia that anything supported by "liberals" is evil bullshit that that becomes the beginning, middle and end of your analysis (to the extent there's any "analysis" at all).

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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I am against lying and making up a reason to do it.

Coming from a "no-matter-what-happens" Bush supporter, this is a very funny statement.

[rushmc 23]

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I am against lying and making up a reason to do it.

Coming from a "no-matter-what-happens" Bush supporter, this is a very funny statement.

I love the way you libs label people to try and make your point........

Even though your statement is BS

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,146]

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>I almost burned down my apartment by shorting out an 80V 20A power supply in my kitchen!

I just built a traction battery for an electric bike out of 80 18650-sized lithium ion batteries! And nothing has blown up yet.

I just built a radio controlled sailboat and it hasn't exploded either.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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I love the way you libs label people

the irony.

[rushmc 23]

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I love the way you libs label people

the irony.

and the hypocrisy

Want to debate it then lets debate it!

Want to put words in my mouth and mischaracterize my position and me then you are on your own ........

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 2]

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You have one - count 'em - one - tool in your toolbox.

[Amazon 7]

Perhaps when Iowa takes on the look of Chad....or Mali or Niger.... there will be plenty of sand to bury their heads in

[rushmc 23]

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You have one - count 'em - one - tool in your toolbox.

I am not sure what you are trying to say but consider this.

I am a conservative. I am not a repub or dem. I do not like many things/programs Bush and the Repubs have done during their tenure so someone saying I support Bush no matter what is just plain BS.

So, call me a conservative. I am proud of that label. the other side is the liberals (as defined today and I realize the title has been altered somewhat). Are those on the other side proud to be called libs?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[StreetScooby 5]

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It is only a question of how many countries will damage thier economies before they figure it out.

The thing that has struck me with this article (and the others I've already read on the topic) is, they are ready to collect the money with no plan to spend the money. Boondoggle in the making.

We are all engines of karma

[rushmc 23]

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It is only a question of how many countries will damage thier economies before they figure it out.

The thing that has struck me with this article (and the others I've already read on the topic) is, they are ready to collect the money with no plan to spend the money. Boondoggle in the making.

Ya,
The more I learn the more I am convinced this is a taxation scheem.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,107]

>Are those on the other side proud to be called libs?

Absolutely. I'm all about new solutions to old problems. I didn't bitch about the cost of power out here - I put up a solar power system. I didn't just complain about the traffic and gas prices around here - I bike. At the company I work at, we thought cellphones should be better and cheaper. We didn't lobby the government to mandate lower prices. We designed our own standard, built phones and base stations, and sold them. Made money doing it, too.

I am in favor of freedom of speech, action and belief, and think that people should be able to be any race/religion/sexual orientation without being discriminated against in any way. I think old ideas and traditions sometimes have merit, but should not be a barrier to new ideas and new roles for people.

In other words, I'm a liberal.