kelpdiver 2 #26 November 21, 2006 Quote And for everyone wants to disqualify religous donations - do a little research... find out how much of those donations go towards running the church and how much goes towards charitable efforts. You might be surprised. The Mormons have enough money to build some spectacularly gaudy temples, and to get anti gay marriage bills passed in California. Nevermind all the money spent on conversion efforts to bring more ten percenters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #27 November 21, 2006 QuoteApparently, this is true. Here's the breakdown State by State. http://www.catalogueforphilanthropy.org/cfp/generosity_index/2004_Generosity_Index.xls - I notice no one commented on your link. For those who didn't check it out, the most charitable states are overwhelmingly "red states". Guess who was at the bottom of the list? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #28 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteConservatives are generous with their own money. Liberals are generous with other people's money. Well, conservatives also seem to like rules that allow them to emulate Enron and Tyco: www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/20/yourmoney/market.php Quotehe also suggested that the lawmakers and regulators had gone too far and that it was time for a reassessment. "When it comes to regulation, balance is key," he said before the Economic Club of New York. "And striking the right balance requires us to consider the economic implications of our actions. Excessive regulation slows innovation, imposes needless costs on investors, and stifles competitiveness and job creation Yeah. Those business types are all just a bunch of crooks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #29 November 21, 2006 Quote> Conservatives are generous with their own money. >Liberals are generous with other people's money. Republicans have spent more of your money over the past six years than any other political party during any other period of time, ever. So unfortunately the facts don't bear out that assertion. When was the last six year period that Federal Spending wasn't at an all-time high? Nice ploy - trying to make the issue of personal generosity a congressional issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #30 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteConservatives are generous with their own money. Liberals are generous with other people's money. Well, conservatives also seem to like rules that allow them to emulate Enron and Tyco: www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/20/yourmoney/market.php Quotehe also suggested that the lawmakers and regulators had gone too far and that it was time for a reassessment. "When it comes to regulation, balance is key," he said before the Economic Club of New York. "And striking the right balance requires us to consider the economic implications of our actions. Excessive regulation slows innovation, imposes needless costs on investors, and stifles competitiveness and job creation Yeah. Those business types are all just a bunch of crooks. Lay, Fastow, Skilling, Ebbers.... Millions of investors robbed of their savings. The rules were put in place for a very good reason.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #31 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteConservatives are generous with their own money. Liberals are generous with other people's money. Well, conservatives also seem to like rules that allow them to emulate Enron and Tyco: www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/20/yourmoney/market.php Quotehe also suggested that the lawmakers and regulators had gone too far and that it was time for a reassessment. "When it comes to regulation, balance is key," he said before the Economic Club of New York. "And striking the right balance requires us to consider the economic implications of our actions. Excessive regulation slows innovation, imposes needless costs on investors, and stifles competitiveness and job creation Yeah. Those business types are all just a bunch of crooks. Lay, Fastow, Skilling, Ebbers.... Millions of investors robbed of their savings. The rules were put in place for a very good reason. And those crooks are representative of mainstream conservatives??? About the article you post - do you think it's good to throw the baby out with the bath water? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #32 November 21, 2006 QuoteThen how is it that the debt is rising at phenominal rates when the Repubs are in office? Perhaps the Repubs are spending everyone's money. This is a post comparing conservatives and liberals and you guys extend that to the two different flavors of POLITICIANs? Neither set of of federal politicians is fiscally conservative and all politicians spend other people's money. It's their job - and they don't do it very well, do they? I don't see how that extends to a topic on the generosity of your average guy who is likely fiscally conservative and socially wants to just mind his own business and regardless might call himself con or lib but really isn't any different than the next guy. I'd be more interested in the 'voluntary' charitable habits of urban vs rural, or based on education level, or by career field rather than the pointless political distinction. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #33 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteThen how is it that the debt is rising at phenominal rates when the Repubs are in office? Perhaps the Repubs are spending everyone's money. This is a post comparing conservatives and liberals and you guys extend that to the two different flavors of POLITICIANs? Neither set of of federal politicians is fiscally conservative and all politicians spend other people's money. It's their job - and they don't do it very well, do they? I don't see how that extends to a topic on the generosity of your average guy who is likely fiscally conservative and socially wants to just mind his own business and regardless might call himself con or lib but really isn't any different than the next guy. I'd be more interested in the 'voluntary' charitable habits of urban vs rural, or based on education level, or by career field rather than the pointless political distinction. Conservatives collect in the Republican Party, Liberals in the Dem Party, so let's try not to flaseley seperate them too much. With that, spending of other's money has been, as of late, done by conservatives/Republicans at a very great rate. Over the last 26 years, 8 were Dem, the spending of the money of the futue, money that hasn't been earned/made yet has been spent, essentially given to the rich so they can write the laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #34 November 21, 2006 QuoteConservatives collect in the Republican Party, Liberals in the Dem Party, so let's try not to flaseley seperate them too much. With that, spending of other's money has been, as of late, done by conservatives/Republicans at a very great rate. Over the last 26 years, 8 were Dem, the spending of the money of the futue, money that hasn't been earned/made yet has been spent, essentially given to the rich so they can write the laws. Red Herring? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #35 November 21, 2006 QuoteConservatives collect in the Republican Party, Liberals in the Dem Party, so let's try not to flaseley seperate them too much. Bullshit - You have a ton of bias in this area. conservative - keep those practices and policies that work - would you say opposing a Dept of Homeland Security is a pretty conservative concept? liberal - willing to try new ideas - would you say privatizing Social Security is a pretty liberal concept? Find me a single person in either party that honestly says they aren't for keeping good practices that work, or says they won't try any new idea. I refuse to use your biased personal definitions with the capital letters. You consider anyone Conservative or Republican to be defined by the extremists of that platform and, conversely, define anyone Liberal or Democratic by what you consider mainstream. I think the moderates in both parties have much more in common with each other than with anyone in Washington or either party's leadership. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #36 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuote I'd be more interested in the 'voluntary' charitable habits of urban vs rural, or based on education level, or by career field rather than the pointless political distinction. How about adding 'income level' to that list?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #37 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote I'd be more interested in the 'voluntary' charitable habits of urban vs rural, or based on education level, or by career field rather than the pointless political distinction. How about adding 'income level' to that list? and, doggonit, what about Income Level too? (by direct dollars? or percentage? because that is just a big waste of time discussion) I want some answers ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #38 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteConservatives are generous with their own money. Liberals are generous with other people's money. Well, conservatives also seem to like rules that allow them to emulate Enron and Tyco: www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/20/yourmoney/market.php Quotehe also suggested that the lawmakers and regulators had gone too far and that it was time for a reassessment. "When it comes to regulation, balance is key," he said before the Economic Club of New York. "And striking the right balance requires us to consider the economic implications of our actions. Excessive regulation slows innovation, imposes needless costs on investors, and stifles competitiveness and job creation Yeah. Those business types are all just a bunch of crooks. Lay, Fastow, Skilling, Ebbers.... Millions of investors robbed of their savings. The rules were put in place for a very good reason. And those crooks are representative of mainstream conservatives??? About the article you post - do you think it's good to throw the baby out with the bath water? Here's another mainstream conservative playing fast and loose with other people's money.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #39 November 21, 2006 Quotemainstream conservative playing fast and loose with other people's money. Some guy name "Noe" took bribes and went to jail. Good deal. Never heard of him. But since you consider Pat Buchanan and televangelists to be 'mainstream' for a typical conservative (or is it Conservative, I can't keep that straight anymore), I'll have to take your word with a grain of salt for the comparison you are trying to imply. The only thing I can take from all these posts is that high profile "Republican" politicians that break the law tend to go to jail and their Democratic counterparts seem to get away with it. In that case, I'd have to say that the Dems seem to be safer to be a politician. Especially if you're corrupt - oops, that's redundant - corrupt politician... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #40 November 21, 2006 Does this have anything to do with which group gives more to charity? Or is it just another red herring? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #41 November 21, 2006 QuoteDoes this have anything to do with which group gives more to charity? Or is it just another red herring? Has a lot to do with conservatives being generous with other people's money, which relates directly to the title of this thread.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #42 November 21, 2006 QuoteHas a lot to do with conservatives being generous with other people's money, which relates directly to the title of this thread. red herring - your comment has a lot to do with politicians being generous with other people's money which is pretty obvious - what are you, the narrator? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #43 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteHas a lot to do with conservatives being generous with other people's money, which relates directly to the title of this thread. red herring - your comment has a lot to do with politicians being generous with other people's money which is pretty obvious - what are you, the narrator? No, the "Decider". I decide what I get to write about.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #44 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteDoes this have anything to do with which group gives more to charity? Or is it just another red herring? Has a lot to do with conservatives being generous with other people's money, which relates directly to the title of this thread. Perhaps you should start a thread about which ideology has more crooks. Offering up isolated examples, doesn't offset the point of the OP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crwtom 0 #45 November 21, 2006 QuoteConservatives are generous with their own money. Liberals are generous with other people's money. are you claiming liberals don't pay taxes? Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #46 November 21, 2006 Despite the fact that "the top 1% of earners pay 37% of all the federal individual income taxes collected. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 3% of those taxes." Most liberals that I've spoken to think top income earners show pay more taxes. OPM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #47 November 21, 2006 QuoteDespite the fact that "the top 1% of earners pay 37% of all the federal individual income taxes collected. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 3% of those taxes." Most liberals that I've spoken to think top income earners show pay more taxes. OPM Taxes are the dues you pay to reap the benefits of belonging to an advanced society. The more benefits you reap, the more dues you should pay.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #48 November 22, 2006 QuoteDespite the fact that "the top 1% of earners pay 37% of all the federal individual income taxes collected. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 3% of those taxes." Most liberals that I've spoken to think top income earners show pay more taxes. OPM Yeah. You are skewing the numbers by including the lowest income earners Let's talk middle class (upper or lower)I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #49 November 22, 2006 QuoteDespite the fact that "the top 1% of earners pay 37% of all the federal individual income taxes collected. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 3% of those taxes." Most liberals that I've spoken to think top income earners show pay more taxes. OPM I don't believe that for a New York Second. The rich have good accountants and know all the tax loopholes. Show me the statsI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. 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rehmwa 2 #37 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote I'd be more interested in the 'voluntary' charitable habits of urban vs rural, or based on education level, or by career field rather than the pointless political distinction. How about adding 'income level' to that list? and, doggonit, what about Income Level too? (by direct dollars? or percentage? because that is just a big waste of time discussion) I want some answers ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #38 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteConservatives are generous with their own money. Liberals are generous with other people's money. Well, conservatives also seem to like rules that allow them to emulate Enron and Tyco: www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/20/yourmoney/market.php Quotehe also suggested that the lawmakers and regulators had gone too far and that it was time for a reassessment. "When it comes to regulation, balance is key," he said before the Economic Club of New York. "And striking the right balance requires us to consider the economic implications of our actions. Excessive regulation slows innovation, imposes needless costs on investors, and stifles competitiveness and job creation Yeah. Those business types are all just a bunch of crooks. Lay, Fastow, Skilling, Ebbers.... Millions of investors robbed of their savings. The rules were put in place for a very good reason. And those crooks are representative of mainstream conservatives??? About the article you post - do you think it's good to throw the baby out with the bath water? Here's another mainstream conservative playing fast and loose with other people's money.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #39 November 21, 2006 Quotemainstream conservative playing fast and loose with other people's money. Some guy name "Noe" took bribes and went to jail. Good deal. Never heard of him. But since you consider Pat Buchanan and televangelists to be 'mainstream' for a typical conservative (or is it Conservative, I can't keep that straight anymore), I'll have to take your word with a grain of salt for the comparison you are trying to imply. The only thing I can take from all these posts is that high profile "Republican" politicians that break the law tend to go to jail and their Democratic counterparts seem to get away with it. In that case, I'd have to say that the Dems seem to be safer to be a politician. Especially if you're corrupt - oops, that's redundant - corrupt politician... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #40 November 21, 2006 Does this have anything to do with which group gives more to charity? Or is it just another red herring? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #41 November 21, 2006 QuoteDoes this have anything to do with which group gives more to charity? Or is it just another red herring? Has a lot to do with conservatives being generous with other people's money, which relates directly to the title of this thread.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #42 November 21, 2006 QuoteHas a lot to do with conservatives being generous with other people's money, which relates directly to the title of this thread. red herring - your comment has a lot to do with politicians being generous with other people's money which is pretty obvious - what are you, the narrator? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #43 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteHas a lot to do with conservatives being generous with other people's money, which relates directly to the title of this thread. red herring - your comment has a lot to do with politicians being generous with other people's money which is pretty obvious - what are you, the narrator? No, the "Decider". I decide what I get to write about.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #44 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteDoes this have anything to do with which group gives more to charity? Or is it just another red herring? Has a lot to do with conservatives being generous with other people's money, which relates directly to the title of this thread. Perhaps you should start a thread about which ideology has more crooks. Offering up isolated examples, doesn't offset the point of the OP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crwtom 0 #45 November 21, 2006 QuoteConservatives are generous with their own money. Liberals are generous with other people's money. are you claiming liberals don't pay taxes? Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #46 November 21, 2006 Despite the fact that "the top 1% of earners pay 37% of all the federal individual income taxes collected. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 3% of those taxes." Most liberals that I've spoken to think top income earners show pay more taxes. OPM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,147 #47 November 21, 2006 QuoteDespite the fact that "the top 1% of earners pay 37% of all the federal individual income taxes collected. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 3% of those taxes." Most liberals that I've spoken to think top income earners show pay more taxes. OPM Taxes are the dues you pay to reap the benefits of belonging to an advanced society. The more benefits you reap, the more dues you should pay.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #48 November 22, 2006 QuoteDespite the fact that "the top 1% of earners pay 37% of all the federal individual income taxes collected. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 3% of those taxes." Most liberals that I've spoken to think top income earners show pay more taxes. OPM Yeah. You are skewing the numbers by including the lowest income earners Let's talk middle class (upper or lower)I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites akarunway 1 #49 November 22, 2006 QuoteDespite the fact that "the top 1% of earners pay 37% of all the federal individual income taxes collected. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 3% of those taxes." Most liberals that I've spoken to think top income earners show pay more taxes. OPM I don't believe that for a New York Second. The rich have good accountants and know all the tax loopholes. Show me the statsI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #50 November 22, 2006 Here you go: http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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kallend 2,147 #38 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteConservatives are generous with their own money. Liberals are generous with other people's money. Well, conservatives also seem to like rules that allow them to emulate Enron and Tyco: www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/20/yourmoney/market.php Quotehe also suggested that the lawmakers and regulators had gone too far and that it was time for a reassessment. "When it comes to regulation, balance is key," he said before the Economic Club of New York. "And striking the right balance requires us to consider the economic implications of our actions. Excessive regulation slows innovation, imposes needless costs on investors, and stifles competitiveness and job creation Yeah. Those business types are all just a bunch of crooks. Lay, Fastow, Skilling, Ebbers.... Millions of investors robbed of their savings. The rules were put in place for a very good reason. And those crooks are representative of mainstream conservatives??? About the article you post - do you think it's good to throw the baby out with the bath water? Here's another mainstream conservative playing fast and loose with other people's money.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #39 November 21, 2006 Quotemainstream conservative playing fast and loose with other people's money. Some guy name "Noe" took bribes and went to jail. Good deal. Never heard of him. But since you consider Pat Buchanan and televangelists to be 'mainstream' for a typical conservative (or is it Conservative, I can't keep that straight anymore), I'll have to take your word with a grain of salt for the comparison you are trying to imply. The only thing I can take from all these posts is that high profile "Republican" politicians that break the law tend to go to jail and their Democratic counterparts seem to get away with it. In that case, I'd have to say that the Dems seem to be safer to be a politician. Especially if you're corrupt - oops, that's redundant - corrupt politician... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #40 November 21, 2006 Does this have anything to do with which group gives more to charity? Or is it just another red herring? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #41 November 21, 2006 QuoteDoes this have anything to do with which group gives more to charity? Or is it just another red herring? Has a lot to do with conservatives being generous with other people's money, which relates directly to the title of this thread.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #42 November 21, 2006 QuoteHas a lot to do with conservatives being generous with other people's money, which relates directly to the title of this thread. red herring - your comment has a lot to do with politicians being generous with other people's money which is pretty obvious - what are you, the narrator? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #43 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteHas a lot to do with conservatives being generous with other people's money, which relates directly to the title of this thread. red herring - your comment has a lot to do with politicians being generous with other people's money which is pretty obvious - what are you, the narrator? No, the "Decider". I decide what I get to write about.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #44 November 21, 2006 QuoteQuoteDoes this have anything to do with which group gives more to charity? Or is it just another red herring? Has a lot to do with conservatives being generous with other people's money, which relates directly to the title of this thread. Perhaps you should start a thread about which ideology has more crooks. Offering up isolated examples, doesn't offset the point of the OP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #45 November 21, 2006 QuoteConservatives are generous with their own money. Liberals are generous with other people's money. are you claiming liberals don't pay taxes? Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #46 November 21, 2006 Despite the fact that "the top 1% of earners pay 37% of all the federal individual income taxes collected. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 3% of those taxes." Most liberals that I've spoken to think top income earners show pay more taxes. OPM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #47 November 21, 2006 QuoteDespite the fact that "the top 1% of earners pay 37% of all the federal individual income taxes collected. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 3% of those taxes." Most liberals that I've spoken to think top income earners show pay more taxes. OPM Taxes are the dues you pay to reap the benefits of belonging to an advanced society. The more benefits you reap, the more dues you should pay.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #48 November 22, 2006 QuoteDespite the fact that "the top 1% of earners pay 37% of all the federal individual income taxes collected. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 3% of those taxes." Most liberals that I've spoken to think top income earners show pay more taxes. OPM Yeah. You are skewing the numbers by including the lowest income earners Let's talk middle class (upper or lower)I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #49 November 22, 2006 QuoteDespite the fact that "the top 1% of earners pay 37% of all the federal individual income taxes collected. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 3% of those taxes." Most liberals that I've spoken to think top income earners show pay more taxes. OPM I don't believe that for a New York Second. The rich have good accountants and know all the tax loopholes. Show me the statsI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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