jakee 1,594 #151 November 12, 2006 Quoteyou guys have NO IDEA how happy i am to see that athiest is the winning category It is? Cool - and I haven't even voted yet! If only it reflected real life @Royd: "That's pretty much the same as saying, "Just my dumb luck." You're still assigning cause and effect." Cause - you forget to turn your lights off, effect - you aren't on the road to get caught up with anything that may or may not occur. It's all just happenstance, I see absolutely no reason to assume some grand plan lying behind it.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #152 November 12, 2006 Quote you guys have NO IDEA how happy i am to see that athiest is the winning category Apparently, math isn't one atheist's strong suit. How does 36% equal a majority? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #153 November 12, 2006 Quote Quote you guys have NO IDEA how happy i am to see that athiest is the winning category Apparently, math isn't one atheist's strong suit. How does 36% equal a majority? Lol, apparently reading comprehension isn't yours! Is atheist not the single most popular category in the poll? Did Calvin mention the word majority? Have you just made yourself look a bit silly?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #154 November 12, 2006 @Royd: "That's pretty much the same as saying, "Just my dumb luck." You're still assigning cause and effect." QuoteCause - you forget to turn your lights off, effect - you aren't on the road to get caught up with anything that may or may not occur. It's all just happenstance, I see absolutely no reason to assume some grand plan lying behind it. Tell me, do you really see everything from the universe to individual lives as some sort of chaos without some kind of guiding force. Let's face it, there are many things in the Bible that one cannot disagree with, especially Proverbs. I believe Jesus said that a man cannot add one inch to his stature or one day to his life. What about people who, at some point in their life have attempted suicide, only to fail, and then, find great meaning and depth in living life. Their lives and outlook then touch many people who's lives have been on a road of self destruction. People simply don't have a 180 degree change in their mindset without some extraneous influence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #155 November 12, 2006 QuoteTell me, do you really see everything from the universe to individual lives as some sort of chaos without some kind of guiding force. Apart from the laws of physics - no. No guiding force. Why should there be?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #156 November 12, 2006 Apparently, math isn't one atheist's strong suit. How does 36% equal a majority? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteLol, apparently reading comprehension isn't yours! Is atheist not the single most popular category in the poll? Did Calvin mention the word majority? Have you just made yourself look a bit silly?It's sort of like any poll in which you can get the desired results. According to many on this website, Muslims believe in the same God as the Christians and the Jews. Hindu, other, and totally confused are the only ones outside of that catagory. I could go on to break the Baptist line of theology into many other subdenominations. Southern, Independent, Freewill, Primitive, etc. The fact is, as a whole, believers in a divine being have athiests outnumbered. I've got to go now and get ready to go meet my brethren of like mind, and reenforce my thought process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #157 November 12, 2006 Quote The fact is, as a whole, believers in a divine being have atheists outnumbered. Oh of course, and in the real world probably even more so Quote Hindu, other, and totally confused are the only ones outside of that category. Hehe, just reminded me of that Simpsons line. Rev Lovejoy: "We can all work together to save our fellow man whether they be Christian, Jew or.... miscellaneous" Apu: "Hindu! There are over a billion of us"Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #158 November 12, 2006 Religion is a code of practise to keep the people in their place. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #159 November 12, 2006 QuoteReligion is a code of practise to keep the people in their place. Agreed, especially with the current organized religions (ie the Vatican and Dogma). But that doesn't mean that the spirit of the book is wrong. There is something to Belief... but when people start mucking about in it, it moves to a control issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #160 November 12, 2006 Quote(ie the Vatican and Dogma). Well, Dogma's a great film and all but I didn't think people were worshipping it!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #161 November 12, 2006 > I believe Jesus said that a man cannot add one inch to his stature or one day to his life. That's an odd one to use. You can surgically add height to your 'stature' - surgeons regularly do this to give people a better gait, or even for cosmetic purposes. Defibrillators can (and have) added many days to people's lives. http://www.rucosm.com/ienglish6.htm > What about people who, at some point in their life have attempted >suicide, only to fail, and then, find great meaning and depth in living life. There are people who attempt suicide and succeed, people who fail at suicide and do NOT find any new meaning, and people who find great meaning and depth to their lives without suicide - so I don't see the connection there. >People simply don't have a 180 degree change in their mindset without > some extraneous influence. That may well be true. But losing a loved one or having a severe physical trauma (like coming close to death) are extraneous influences as well, and these are also the sorts of things that can cause a swing in one's perceptions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #162 November 12, 2006 Quote@Royd: "That's pretty much the same as saying, "Just my dumb luck." You're still assigning cause and effect." QuoteCause - you forget to turn your lights off, effect - you aren't on the road to get caught up with anything that may or may not occur. It's all just happenstance, I see absolutely no reason to assume some grand plan lying behind it. Tell me, do you really see everything from the universe to individual lives as some sort of chaos without some kind of guiding force. Let's face it, there are many things in the Bible that one cannot disagree with, especially Proverbs. I believe Jesus said that a man cannot add one inch to his stature or one day to his life. What about people who, at some point in their life have attempted suicide, only to fail, and then, find great meaning and depth in living life. Their lives and outlook then touch many people who's lives have been on a road of self destruction. People simply don't have a 180 degree change in their mindset without some extraneous influence. QuoteI believe Jesus said that a man cannot add one inch to his stature or one day to his life This sounds like genetic predisposition to me. QuoteWhat about people who, at some point in their life have attempted suicide, only to fail, and then, find great meaning and depth in living life. If you can't even kill yourself right, you should commit suicide. Oh wait, they failed at that. To me, there is almost no such thing as an attempted suicide. Virtually all of those who fail didn't really want to succeed, they wanted attention. Come on kids, if I can make it thru college algebra, anatomy and physiology 1 and 2 and microbiology, you can certainly kill yourselves successfully. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #163 November 12, 2006 Quoteyou guys have NO IDEA how happy i am to see that athiest is the winning category yes, I can imagine that is probably very comforting for you. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #164 November 12, 2006 QuoteReligion is a code of practise to keep the people in their place. Right and therefore not a bad thing, but it doesn't seal the argument that there is a god. I know that's what you're saying. Religion subscribes a heirarchy of authority, problem is that we are human animals and we are prone to corrupt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #165 November 12, 2006 I'm an Atheist. I believe the way that I do because I believe that the answers to some of the most challenging questions are not "Because that's the way God wanted it." I believe the way that I do because I do not believe in anything supernatural. It doesn't matter to me what people believe/don't believe. It's what people do with their beliefs/non-beliefs that matter. For me Atheism means that I have to help others more since nothing magical exists to do so. This also means that I have to take full responsibility for changing what I dislike in my life. There is no afterlife to enjoy, so I have to try to enjoy living as much as I can. I have more of an appreciation for the power of nature. I give credit where credit is due (ie, when a doctor helped save my grandma's life, I realized it was the hard work of the doctor that did so, and without medical help, she would not have made it.) Oh, and I get to sleep in on Sundays There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #166 November 12, 2006 QuoteRev Lovejoy: "We can all work together to save our fellow man whether they be Christian, Jew or.... miscellaneous" Apu: "Hindu! There are over a billion of us" Rev Lovejoy: "that's super" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #167 November 12, 2006 Every Sunday I try to give money to God..... I take my wages into the garden and throw it up into the air... Everything that God catches, he can have.... Could be, he's just crap at catching (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #168 November 12, 2006 QuoteAccording to many on this website, Muslims believe in the same God as the Christians and the Jews. You are aware that both Christianity and Islam stem from Judaism, right? Think of it as the evolution of western religion.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #169 November 12, 2006 For those who are atheists, I have some questions for you: What's the purpose of life? What's the purpose of living? ( Staying alive?) Where do you turn to when everything in your life gets turned upside down? What hope do you have for things to change? What keeps you going everyday? edited to add: I genuinely want to know. This post isn't meant to stir up controversy. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #170 November 12, 2006 >For those who are atheists, I have some questions for you: >What's the purpose of life? To enjoy my existence. >What's the purpose of living? ( Staying alive?) To enjoy my existence. >Where do you turn to when everything in your life gets turned upside down? It stands to reason that if everything in my life gets turned upside down, the most likely reason is because I am upside down. Therefore I look within to see what may be causing such disorientation. >What hope do you have for things to change? Nothing in the universe is static from in a three dimensional frame. >What keeps you going everyday? Energy, most often obtained from food. Water helps keep me hydrated. Without it, I could not enjoy my existence. Of course, without Sol, our sun, our planet, without which I could not get my food and water, would not exist. I guess the sun keeps me going.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #171 November 12, 2006 "What's the purpose of life?" Biologically speaking - reproduction. "What's the purpose of living? ( Staying alive?)" To enjoy existence. "Where do you turn to when everything in your life gets turned upside down?" Friends and people around me. "What hope do you have for things to change? " What things? Personally, I'm pretty good at the moment, and to change things for the better I could just be less lazy. "What keeps you going everyday?" Life, beauty, love, laughter and all that jazzDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #172 November 13, 2006 "What's the purpose of life?" I don't believe in a "purpose of life." I believe in are the goals that I have set for my life. "What's the purpose of living? ( Staying alive?)" I don't believe everyone shares the same purpose of living. Once again, I have my own personal purpose of living. "Where do you turn to when everything in your life gets turned upside down?" When everything in my life gets turned upside down, I do what I can to change my situation. If I can't change my situation, I turn to family/friends for advice/support. "What hope do you have for things to change?" This is an odd question. Change is an incredible feature of humans. Look at everything we've changed. We eat much differently than people did just a few hundred years ago (heck even 100 years ago.) We communicate very differently. We've even changed our ability to procreate (or not if we choose.) I don't need hope for change since it's inevitable and it's usually a good thing. "What keeps you going everyday?" Enjoying life. And when I have my days where I'm not enjoying life quite as much, knowing that I'm the one responsible for changing that is what keeps me going.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #173 November 13, 2006 I'm an atheists, so here it goes. QuoteWhat's the purpose of life? I don't know. I'm here have a great fam and friends and couldnt ask for more. Will I ever learn the purpose of life, no. Do I try to make this world a better place, I'm trying. QuoteWhat's the purpose of living? ( Staying alive?) I love life period. I love waking up at the crack of down and surfing with my friends, love the feeling of hanging out the door of an otter waiting for the count. Love my fam and friends. QuoteWhere do you turn to when everything in your life gets turned upside down? I turn to my fam, friends and myself. I'm in control of my life and if I need to change things in it I will. I dont believe in a higher power that is in control of my fate or will bail me out when in trouble. For example, I currently hate my job and want to change fields. I'm not going to pray to a higher power to change things for me. I'm looking into different fields and talking to people in them. The balls in my court and it's all upto me. QuoteWhat keeps you going everyday? Fam, friends and myself. Like I said before I hate my job so it's a bit of a drag on things right now. But I know things will change because I'm in control and busting my ass to get out of this field. I hope I answered your questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #174 November 13, 2006 QuoteLike I said before I hate my job so it's a bit of a drag on things right now. But I know things will change because I'm in control and busting my ass to get out of this field. Hell, just quit. I did, knew that God had my back, and never missed a lick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #175 November 13, 2006 QuoteEvery Sunday I try to give money to God..... I take my wages into the garden and throw it up into the air... Everything that God catches, he can have.... Could be, he's just crap at catching Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites