lummy 4 #151 November 7, 2006 QuoteIf someone says "it's no ones business what a person does in private" and criticizes those who do, then, when the shoe in on the other foot, they "spew righteous indignation", they are hypocrites. This is not about what Haggard or Foley did. This is about the fact that Haggard and Foley said that A AND B are morally wrong and then turned around and COMMITED A AND B. I could care less that either is gay and or uses drugs, that's their business.I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #152 November 7, 2006 Haggart married a man? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #153 November 7, 2006 QuoteSo, what you're saying is reprehensible behavior, by a national politician is really no one's business, unless they hold themselves up as a paragon of virtue. Immoral or unseemly behavior is okay for everyone, except those who condemn those actions? Thats what she said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #154 November 8, 2006 QuoteBingo... The right has not got a leg to stand on with all the faults that have been shown in their party. They keep binging up this hypocrisy... thing.. I guess having the mirror turned on them.. they are not seeing things so flattering anymore. Which is different than when the left does the same thing. They cuddle up together and protect the person. But then they band together to try and hand the right when they do the same thing....Call it what you want a double standard, hipocrisy..ect. It is BS when you defend one guy and try to hang another for the same offense. But *you support* that double standard. QuoteAnd then they have the audacity to claim others have a double standard????Where the hell did I put my hip waders.. It is a double standard when you protect one guy and want to hang another for the same thing. Good hting you have hip waders, YOU need them. Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lummy 4 #155 November 8, 2006 QuoteHaggart married a man? Considering he's not legally allowed to at the moment, it's a moot point. He has gone on record condemning homosexuality and gay marriageI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #156 November 8, 2006 QuoteSo, what you're saying is reprehensible behavior, by a national politician is really no one's business, unless they hold themselves up as a paragon of virtue. Immoral or unseemly behavior is okay for everyone, except those who condemn those actions? It's okay to bang 17 year old girls (and boys), as long as you haven't pushed legislation against it. Gay prostitution in your home? Not a problem, as long as you never spoke against it. And people think that whole conversation about declining values and moral decay is being driven by just the ultra-conservatives. You do not make yourself look very smart by playing that silly "straw man" game, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what she actually said,... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #157 November 8, 2006 QuoteIt is a double standard when you protect one guy and want to hang another for the same thing. Good hting you have hip waders, YOU need them. Lets try this again... If some fucking bigot... goes out and does the same thing he rails against.. he deserves everything that comes to him...he is a fucking hypocrite Personally I want the fucking right out of EVERYONES bedrooms..but if a rightie comes out of his bedroom and is enough of a bigot to deny others the same fun he has behind his closed door.. then he needs to go down from his fucking high horse. If someone on the left does the same and jumps into the hypocrisy pool.. then likewise.. get rid of him if you want. BUT if they( right or left) keep their private life private... and has a live and let live attitude.. and they do not break our societies laws....then so be it.. I could care less if a guy is gay... or a gun owner.. or a christian...what is good for one is good for another. But if said right wing poster child rails against dopers and then ends up with thousands of oxycontin pills.. and have been doctor shopping and have broken the law.. then he is a fucking hypocrite. But the fucking right is like a bunch of little old church ladies right now ...who want to know the private details of everyone around them so they can get all morally righteous and superior to theri neighbor..yet getting a nice little voyueristic high out of it... I didnt know guys were into all of that kind of voyuerism... but that is what the right wing has devolved into and there are a bunch of them right here. Oh.. edited to add this.. I dont fucking care who the fuck gets blow jobs....I think more republicans need to get them on a far more regular basis.. then maybe they would not be so fucking uptight about those who do get them. There now.. I hope I have used language that the right wingers on here can understand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #158 November 8, 2006 Quote>but neo-fascism is here and alive . . . KABLOOIE! >unlike Italian Fascsism of old. Are you really saying that neocons are fascists but Mussolini wasn't? Nope, a bit different flavor of fascism tho. The new fascism has larger elements of Corporatism than the old. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #159 November 8, 2006 Isn't it interestomg when people are ok with pedophilia?. Go Stubbs!!!. Your party will stand behind you no matter what."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #160 November 8, 2006 And another thing, it is also funny that no one point in the hypocrysy of a memeber of the US congress like Studds was, whose job is to enact laws that they will later violate. Still even a PHD defends that. Go figure."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #161 November 8, 2006 QuoteAnd another thing, it is also funny that no one point in the hypocrysy of a memeber of the US congress like Studds was, whose job is to enact laws that they will later violate. Still even a PHD defends that. Go figure. What I've learned is it's OK to have a double standard as long as you aren't a hypocrite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #162 November 8, 2006 QuoteLets try this again... If some fucking bigot... goes out and does the same thing he rails against.. he deserves everything that comes to him...he is a fucking hypocrite But a guy that just breaks laws he does not agree with deserves standing ovations? QuotePersonally I want the fucking right out of EVERYONES bedrooms..but if a rightie comes out of his bedroom and is enough of a bigot to deny others the same fun he has behind his closed door.. then he needs to go down from his fucking high horse. I think anyone that breaks laws need to go down, not just people from one party....But thats just to balanced for some people. QuoteBUT if they( right or left) keep their private life private... and has a live and let live attitude.. and they do not break our societies laws....then so be it.. I could care less if a guy is gay... or a gun owner.. or a christian...what is good for one is good for another. But if said right wing poster child rails against dopers and then ends up with thousands of oxycontin pills.. and have been doctor shopping and have broken the law.. then he is a fucking hypocrite. And you don't think the left's defense of Stubbs and wanting to hang foley is not? QuoteBut the fucking right is like a bunch of little old church ladies right now And the left is like a bunch of three year olds that want their favorite toy (power) QuoteI dont fucking care who the fuck gets blow jobs....I think more republicans need to get them on a far more regular basis.. then maybe they would not be so fucking uptight about those who do get them I don't care either. I would like it if people didn't lie under oath (break the law) about them. If a BJ is no big deal, why lie about it under oath?....So what do you say about this now "and has a live and let live attitude.. and they do not break our societies laws....then so be it". So what if they DO break societies laws? QuoteThere now.. I hope I have used language that the right wingers on here can understand Talking like a truck driver is not really a good way to get a message across.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #163 November 8, 2006 QuoteAnd another thing, it is also funny that no one point in the hypocrysy of a memeber of the US congress like Studds was, whose job is to enact laws that they will later violate. Still even a PHD defends that. Go figure. Welcome to blind hatred....I don't get it either. Of course we will both be attacked and call facists for not agreeing with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #164 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteIt is a double standard when you protect one guy and want to hang another for the same thing. Good hting you have hip waders, YOU need them. Lets try this again... If some fucking bigot... goes out and does the same thing he rails against.. he deserves everything that comes to him...he is a fucking hypocrite. I keep reading this over and over again, even though no one seems to be challenging this point. IOW everyone gets it. What so many seem to missing is those who espouse a "live and let live" philisophy, but abandon it when politically beneficial - they are also hypocrites. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #165 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt is a double standard when you protect one guy and want to hang another for the same thing. Good hting you have hip waders, YOU need them. Lets try this again... If some fucking bigot... goes out and does the same thing he rails against.. he deserves everything that comes to him...he is a fucking hypocrite. I keep reading this over and over again, even though no one seems to be challenging this point. IOW everyone gets it. What so many seem to missing is those who espouse a "live and let live" philisophy, but abandon it when politically beneficial - they are also hypocrites. No..they're not as hypocritical as the hypocrite that was speaking out for whatever he got caught doing... so that hypocrisy doesn't count.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #166 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo, what you're saying is reprehensible behavior, by a national politician is really no one's business, unless they hold themselves up as a paragon of virtue? Immoral or unseemly behavior is okay for everyone, except those who condemn those actions? It's okay to bang 17 year old girls (and boys), as long as you haven't pushed legislation against it. Gay prostitution in your home? Not a problem, as long as you never spoke against it. And people think that whole conversation about declining values and moral decay is being driven by just the ultra-conservatives. You do not make yourself look very smart by playing that silly "straw man" game, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what she actually said, You do not make yourself look very smart by resorting to simple diversionary tactics, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what I actually said. I've noticed a number of people around here seem inclined to look for ways to misunderstand a point or question, rather than actually respond to the obvious point. Some do it occasionally. For others it's standard fare. By and large I try to address people directly. If I use some logically fallacy, point it out. Just making generic attacks is just lame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #167 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteSo, what you're saying is reprehensible behavior, by a national politician is really no one's business, unless they hold themselves up as a paragon of virtue? Immoral or unseemly behavior is okay for everyone, except those who condemn those actions? It's okay to bang 17 year old girls (and boys), as long as you haven't pushed legislation against it. Gay prostitution in your home? Not a problem, as long as you never spoke against it. And people think that whole conversation about declining values and moral decay is being driven by just the ultra-conservatives. You do not make yourself look very smart by playing that silly "straw man" game, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what she actually said, You do not make yourself look very smart by resorting to simple diversionary tactics, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what I actually said. I've noticed a number of people around here seem inclined to look for ways to misunderstand a point or question, rather than actually respond to the obvious point. Some do it occasionally. For others it's standard fare. By and large I try to address people directly. If I use some logically fallacy, point it out. Just making generic attacks is just lame. Since you misrepresented her position, there's no point in debating what you actually said - it was a straw man.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #168 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIt is a double standard when you protect one guy and want to hang another for the same thing. Good hting you have hip waders, YOU need them. Lets try this again... If some fucking bigot... goes out and does the same thing he rails against.. he deserves everything that comes to him...he is a fucking hypocrite. I keep reading this over and over again, even though no one seems to be challenging this point. IOW everyone gets it. What so many seem to missing is those who espouse a "live and let live" philisophy, but abandon it when politically beneficial - they are also hypocrites. No..they're not as hypocritical as the hypocrite that was speaking out for whatever he got caught doing... so that hypocrisy doesn't count. Are you saying it's okay to be hypocritical if you're attacking a hypocrite? Then your hypocrisy is perfectly acceptable your hypocritical actions are done on the side of righteousness? The New Zeitgeist: Gaining the moral high ground through hypocrisy It's soooo righteous Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #169 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo, what you're saying is reprehensible behavior, by a national politician is really no one's business, unless they hold themselves up as a paragon of virtue? Immoral or unseemly behavior is okay for everyone, except those who condemn those actions? It's okay to bang 17 year old girls (and boys), as long as you haven't pushed legislation against it. Gay prostitution in your home? Not a problem, as long as you never spoke against it. And people think that whole conversation about declining values and moral decay is being driven by just the ultra-conservatives. You do not make yourself look very smart by playing that silly "straw man" game, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what she actually said, You do not make yourself look very smart by resorting to simple diversionary tactics, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what I actually said. I've noticed a number of people around here seem inclined to look for ways to misunderstand a point or question, rather than actually respond to the obvious point. Some do it occasionally. For others it's standard fare. By and large I try to address people directly. If I use some logically fallacy, point it out. Just making generic attacks is just lame. Since you misrepresented her position, there's no point in debating what you actually said - it was a straw man. I see.The points I brought up address the position a number of people seem to support. Instead of addressing them, you seem inclined to elude them. Nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #170 November 8, 2006 IN the end seems that many posters are ok with pedophiles getting a standing ovation."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #171 November 8, 2006 QuoteWhat I've learned is it's OK to have a double standard as long as you aren't a hypocrite. finally, someone gets the absolute simplicity of it. double standard = good hyposcrisy = bad and, in the end, isn't clarity and understanding of each other our final goal? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #172 November 8, 2006 QuoteIN the end seems that many posters are ok with pedophiles getting a standing ovation. In the end, it's all about reading comprehension (or lack thereof).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #173 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhat I've learned is it's OK to have a double standard as long as you aren't a hypocrite. finally, someone gets the absolute simplicity of it. double standard = good hyposcrisy = bad and, in the end, isn't clarity and understanding of each other our final goal? No its: Double standard != hypocrisy or to put it another way Why don't you read what was actually written instead of criticizing your own straw man.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #174 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteIN the end seems that many posters are ok with pedophiles getting a standing ovation. In the end, it's all about reading comprehension (or lack thereof). you are correct. It's not so much that some posters are "OK" with pedophiles. It's just that those posters don't care AS MUCH about pedophilia when REALLY important issues are at hand, like creeps that demonstrate hypocrisy. Especially when they can spin it as a partisan issue. It's good to know what really is important. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #175 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteand, in the end, isn't clarity and understanding of each other our final goal? 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lummy 4 #155 November 8, 2006 QuoteHaggart married a man? Considering he's not legally allowed to at the moment, it's a moot point. He has gone on record condemning homosexuality and gay marriageI promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #156 November 8, 2006 QuoteSo, what you're saying is reprehensible behavior, by a national politician is really no one's business, unless they hold themselves up as a paragon of virtue. Immoral or unseemly behavior is okay for everyone, except those who condemn those actions? It's okay to bang 17 year old girls (and boys), as long as you haven't pushed legislation against it. Gay prostitution in your home? Not a problem, as long as you never spoke against it. And people think that whole conversation about declining values and moral decay is being driven by just the ultra-conservatives. You do not make yourself look very smart by playing that silly "straw man" game, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what she actually said,... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #157 November 8, 2006 QuoteIt is a double standard when you protect one guy and want to hang another for the same thing. Good hting you have hip waders, YOU need them. Lets try this again... If some fucking bigot... goes out and does the same thing he rails against.. he deserves everything that comes to him...he is a fucking hypocrite Personally I want the fucking right out of EVERYONES bedrooms..but if a rightie comes out of his bedroom and is enough of a bigot to deny others the same fun he has behind his closed door.. then he needs to go down from his fucking high horse. If someone on the left does the same and jumps into the hypocrisy pool.. then likewise.. get rid of him if you want. BUT if they( right or left) keep their private life private... and has a live and let live attitude.. and they do not break our societies laws....then so be it.. I could care less if a guy is gay... or a gun owner.. or a christian...what is good for one is good for another. But if said right wing poster child rails against dopers and then ends up with thousands of oxycontin pills.. and have been doctor shopping and have broken the law.. then he is a fucking hypocrite. But the fucking right is like a bunch of little old church ladies right now ...who want to know the private details of everyone around them so they can get all morally righteous and superior to theri neighbor..yet getting a nice little voyueristic high out of it... I didnt know guys were into all of that kind of voyuerism... but that is what the right wing has devolved into and there are a bunch of them right here. Oh.. edited to add this.. I dont fucking care who the fuck gets blow jobs....I think more republicans need to get them on a far more regular basis.. then maybe they would not be so fucking uptight about those who do get them. There now.. I hope I have used language that the right wingers on here can understand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #158 November 8, 2006 Quote>but neo-fascism is here and alive . . . KABLOOIE! >unlike Italian Fascsism of old. Are you really saying that neocons are fascists but Mussolini wasn't? Nope, a bit different flavor of fascism tho. The new fascism has larger elements of Corporatism than the old. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #159 November 8, 2006 Isn't it interestomg when people are ok with pedophilia?. Go Stubbs!!!. Your party will stand behind you no matter what."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #160 November 8, 2006 And another thing, it is also funny that no one point in the hypocrysy of a memeber of the US congress like Studds was, whose job is to enact laws that they will later violate. Still even a PHD defends that. Go figure."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #161 November 8, 2006 QuoteAnd another thing, it is also funny that no one point in the hypocrysy of a memeber of the US congress like Studds was, whose job is to enact laws that they will later violate. Still even a PHD defends that. Go figure. What I've learned is it's OK to have a double standard as long as you aren't a hypocrite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #162 November 8, 2006 QuoteLets try this again... If some fucking bigot... goes out and does the same thing he rails against.. he deserves everything that comes to him...he is a fucking hypocrite But a guy that just breaks laws he does not agree with deserves standing ovations? QuotePersonally I want the fucking right out of EVERYONES bedrooms..but if a rightie comes out of his bedroom and is enough of a bigot to deny others the same fun he has behind his closed door.. then he needs to go down from his fucking high horse. I think anyone that breaks laws need to go down, not just people from one party....But thats just to balanced for some people. QuoteBUT if they( right or left) keep their private life private... and has a live and let live attitude.. and they do not break our societies laws....then so be it.. I could care less if a guy is gay... or a gun owner.. or a christian...what is good for one is good for another. But if said right wing poster child rails against dopers and then ends up with thousands of oxycontin pills.. and have been doctor shopping and have broken the law.. then he is a fucking hypocrite. And you don't think the left's defense of Stubbs and wanting to hang foley is not? QuoteBut the fucking right is like a bunch of little old church ladies right now And the left is like a bunch of three year olds that want their favorite toy (power) QuoteI dont fucking care who the fuck gets blow jobs....I think more republicans need to get them on a far more regular basis.. then maybe they would not be so fucking uptight about those who do get them I don't care either. I would like it if people didn't lie under oath (break the law) about them. If a BJ is no big deal, why lie about it under oath?....So what do you say about this now "and has a live and let live attitude.. and they do not break our societies laws....then so be it". So what if they DO break societies laws? QuoteThere now.. I hope I have used language that the right wingers on here can understand Talking like a truck driver is not really a good way to get a message across.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #163 November 8, 2006 QuoteAnd another thing, it is also funny that no one point in the hypocrysy of a memeber of the US congress like Studds was, whose job is to enact laws that they will later violate. Still even a PHD defends that. Go figure. Welcome to blind hatred....I don't get it either. Of course we will both be attacked and call facists for not agreeing with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #164 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteIt is a double standard when you protect one guy and want to hang another for the same thing. Good hting you have hip waders, YOU need them. Lets try this again... If some fucking bigot... goes out and does the same thing he rails against.. he deserves everything that comes to him...he is a fucking hypocrite. I keep reading this over and over again, even though no one seems to be challenging this point. IOW everyone gets it. What so many seem to missing is those who espouse a "live and let live" philisophy, but abandon it when politically beneficial - they are also hypocrites. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #165 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt is a double standard when you protect one guy and want to hang another for the same thing. Good hting you have hip waders, YOU need them. Lets try this again... If some fucking bigot... goes out and does the same thing he rails against.. he deserves everything that comes to him...he is a fucking hypocrite. I keep reading this over and over again, even though no one seems to be challenging this point. IOW everyone gets it. What so many seem to missing is those who espouse a "live and let live" philisophy, but abandon it when politically beneficial - they are also hypocrites. No..they're not as hypocritical as the hypocrite that was speaking out for whatever he got caught doing... so that hypocrisy doesn't count.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #166 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo, what you're saying is reprehensible behavior, by a national politician is really no one's business, unless they hold themselves up as a paragon of virtue? Immoral or unseemly behavior is okay for everyone, except those who condemn those actions? It's okay to bang 17 year old girls (and boys), as long as you haven't pushed legislation against it. Gay prostitution in your home? Not a problem, as long as you never spoke against it. And people think that whole conversation about declining values and moral decay is being driven by just the ultra-conservatives. You do not make yourself look very smart by playing that silly "straw man" game, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what she actually said, You do not make yourself look very smart by resorting to simple diversionary tactics, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what I actually said. I've noticed a number of people around here seem inclined to look for ways to misunderstand a point or question, rather than actually respond to the obvious point. Some do it occasionally. For others it's standard fare. By and large I try to address people directly. If I use some logically fallacy, point it out. Just making generic attacks is just lame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #167 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteSo, what you're saying is reprehensible behavior, by a national politician is really no one's business, unless they hold themselves up as a paragon of virtue? Immoral or unseemly behavior is okay for everyone, except those who condemn those actions? It's okay to bang 17 year old girls (and boys), as long as you haven't pushed legislation against it. Gay prostitution in your home? Not a problem, as long as you never spoke against it. And people think that whole conversation about declining values and moral decay is being driven by just the ultra-conservatives. You do not make yourself look very smart by playing that silly "straw man" game, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what she actually said, You do not make yourself look very smart by resorting to simple diversionary tactics, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what I actually said. I've noticed a number of people around here seem inclined to look for ways to misunderstand a point or question, rather than actually respond to the obvious point. Some do it occasionally. For others it's standard fare. By and large I try to address people directly. If I use some logically fallacy, point it out. Just making generic attacks is just lame. Since you misrepresented her position, there's no point in debating what you actually said - it was a straw man.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #168 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIt is a double standard when you protect one guy and want to hang another for the same thing. Good hting you have hip waders, YOU need them. Lets try this again... If some fucking bigot... goes out and does the same thing he rails against.. he deserves everything that comes to him...he is a fucking hypocrite. I keep reading this over and over again, even though no one seems to be challenging this point. IOW everyone gets it. What so many seem to missing is those who espouse a "live and let live" philisophy, but abandon it when politically beneficial - they are also hypocrites. No..they're not as hypocritical as the hypocrite that was speaking out for whatever he got caught doing... so that hypocrisy doesn't count. Are you saying it's okay to be hypocritical if you're attacking a hypocrite? Then your hypocrisy is perfectly acceptable your hypocritical actions are done on the side of righteousness? The New Zeitgeist: Gaining the moral high ground through hypocrisy It's soooo righteous Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #169 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo, what you're saying is reprehensible behavior, by a national politician is really no one's business, unless they hold themselves up as a paragon of virtue? Immoral or unseemly behavior is okay for everyone, except those who condemn those actions? It's okay to bang 17 year old girls (and boys), as long as you haven't pushed legislation against it. Gay prostitution in your home? Not a problem, as long as you never spoke against it. And people think that whole conversation about declining values and moral decay is being driven by just the ultra-conservatives. You do not make yourself look very smart by playing that silly "straw man" game, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what she actually said, You do not make yourself look very smart by resorting to simple diversionary tactics, since too many of us here are well aware of what you're doing. Try debating what I actually said. I've noticed a number of people around here seem inclined to look for ways to misunderstand a point or question, rather than actually respond to the obvious point. Some do it occasionally. For others it's standard fare. By and large I try to address people directly. If I use some logically fallacy, point it out. Just making generic attacks is just lame. Since you misrepresented her position, there's no point in debating what you actually said - it was a straw man. I see.The points I brought up address the position a number of people seem to support. Instead of addressing them, you seem inclined to elude them. Nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #170 November 8, 2006 IN the end seems that many posters are ok with pedophiles getting a standing ovation."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #171 November 8, 2006 QuoteWhat I've learned is it's OK to have a double standard as long as you aren't a hypocrite. finally, someone gets the absolute simplicity of it. double standard = good hyposcrisy = bad and, in the end, isn't clarity and understanding of each other our final goal? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #172 November 8, 2006 QuoteIN the end seems that many posters are ok with pedophiles getting a standing ovation. In the end, it's all about reading comprehension (or lack thereof).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #173 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhat I've learned is it's OK to have a double standard as long as you aren't a hypocrite. finally, someone gets the absolute simplicity of it. double standard = good hyposcrisy = bad and, in the end, isn't clarity and understanding of each other our final goal? No its: Double standard != hypocrisy or to put it another way Why don't you read what was actually written instead of criticizing your own straw man.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #174 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteIN the end seems that many posters are ok with pedophiles getting a standing ovation. In the end, it's all about reading comprehension (or lack thereof). you are correct. It's not so much that some posters are "OK" with pedophiles. It's just that those posters don't care AS MUCH about pedophilia when REALLY important issues are at hand, like creeps that demonstrate hypocrisy. Especially when they can spin it as a partisan issue. It's good to know what really is important. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #175 November 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteand, in the end, isn't clarity and understanding of each other our final goal? No well - thanks for settling that ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
