akarunway 1 #101 November 6, 2006 QuoteIt's a quote by George Orwell: People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.He was wrong. I sleep peaceably at nite when the Glock is next to me "LOCKED and LOADED"I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #102 November 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteIt's a quote by George Orwell: People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.He was wrong. I sleep peaceably at nite when the Glock is next to me "LOCKED and LOADED" I agree, what is a soldier 1/2 way round the world gonna do? However, I keep mine unlocked and loaded Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #103 November 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt's a quote by George Orwell: People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.He was wrong. I sleep peaceably at nite when the Glock is next to me "LOCKED and LOADED" I agree, what is a soldier 1/2 way round the world gonna do? However, I keep mine unlocked and loaded Well. I can say. I had an intruder break in one nite and in a hurry I tried to chamber one (one already in the pipe.) Jammed the motherfucker but the site of the barrel looking at him was enough to make him flee. Cops said I had every right to shoot him dead. His lucky day. He only did 6 mths on that one thoIt wasn't the Glock tho. That's my baby now or my big fuckin KBar or a the big Maglite depending on the threat. Edit to add: the sorry ass dog would lick you to deathI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #104 November 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIt's a quote by George Orwell: People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.He was wrong. I sleep peaceably at nite when the Glock is next to me "LOCKED and LOADED" I agree, what is a soldier 1/2 way round the world gonna do? However, I keep mine unlocked and loaded Well. I can say. I had an intruderer break in one nite and in a hurry I tried to chamber on (one already in the pipe.) Jammed the motherfucker but the site of the barrel looking at him was enough to make him flee. Cops said I had every right to shoot him dead. His lucky day. He only did 6 mths on that one thoIt wasn't the Glock tho. That's my baby now or my big fuckin KBar or a the big Maglite depending on the threat Oh yea, they wouldn't even think of charging you. How did he sneak in? I would want to create a set of locks so that someone would have to make a lot of noise to get in. 6 months? Fuck that. I guess they could only get him for tresspassing since he hadn;t stolen anything yet, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #105 November 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIt's a quote by George Orwell: People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.He was wrong. I sleep peaceably at nite when the Glock is next to me "LOCKED and LOADED" I agree, what is a soldier 1/2 way round the world gonna do? However, I keep mine unlocked and loaded Well. I can say. I had an intruderer break in one nite and in a hurry I tried to chamber on (one already in the pipe.) Jammed the motherfucker but the site of the barrel looking at him was enough to make him flee. Cops said I had every right to shoot him dead. His lucky day. He only did 6 mths on that one thoIt wasn't the Glock tho. That's my baby now or my big fuckin KBar or a the big Maglite depending on the threat Oh yea, they wouldn't even think of charging you. How did he sneak in? I would want to create a set of locks so that someone would have to make a lot of noise to get in. 6 months? Fuck that. I guess they could only get him for tresspassing since he hadn;t stolen anything yet, right?LOL. He didn't sneak in. He forced his way in. He found out I was fuckin his ex. Now my ex. LOL And I only owe her 25K and I'm done LOL. And I thought the first wife was a bitch. Live and learnI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #106 November 6, 2006 QuoteThe point I was making FROM THE START was that Reagan didn’t give very big pay raises and I am right. You tried to counter by saying that fewer people in active duty would mean more money for the remainder of people in active duty, I debunked that so you morphed the argument to that of an inflationary index. I never disputed or confirmed that and you website was that of a very general one and not the article or actual data: http://stripes.com I’m not disputing the inflationary index, nor have I ever, however I’m not convinced either, therefore you have not debunked any of my assertions. My assertions stand undisputed, whereas yours that the shrinking military troop numbers led to more available cash has been debunked by me. Furthermore, you’re taking a 30-year span, whereas I was only referring to individual presidents. I don’t give you permission to modify my assertions because you can’t successfully dispute the ones I made. The "article" quoted was a letter to the editor, and equally as valid as your assertions. Just because you say Reagan didn't give the troops raises doesn't make it so. For that matter, one of my coworkers recalls the military not getting paid AT ALL under Carter - I've not been able to confirm that, however. Show me the moneyMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #107 November 6, 2006 QuoteUneducated = subservience / education = command. Aren't you the one who is always complaining about never getting a leg up, and having to work for "da man." Education doesn't make you a leader. A lot of people go to school because they believe that it will entitle them to more money for less work. Learning something from the ground up makes you a far better leader than someone who just read a book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #108 November 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteUneducated = subservience / education = command. Aren't you the one who is always complaining about never getting a leg up, and having to work for "da man." Education doesn't make you a leader. A lot of people go to school because they believe that it will entitle them to more money for less work. Learning something from the ground up makes you a far better leader than someone who just read a book. I wonder why all branches of the US military require a college education of their officers.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #109 November 6, 2006 Just as mysterious as why it is required for an educator to have a college degree.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #110 November 6, 2006 QuoteFor that matter, one of my coworkers recalls the military not getting paid AT ALL under Carter BZZZZZT Never happened. I was there then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #111 November 6, 2006 QuoteJust as mysterious as why it is required for an educator to have a college degree. Right - structural engineering should be taught by high school dropouts. Our bridges and airplanes would be much safer.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #112 November 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteFor that matter, one of my coworkers recalls the military not getting paid AT ALL under Carter BZZZZZT Never happened. I was there then. You'll note that I *did* say I couldn't confirm that... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #113 November 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIt's a quote by George Orwell: People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.He was wrong. I sleep peaceably at nite when the Glock is next to me "LOCKED and LOADED" I agree, what is a soldier 1/2 way round the world gonna do? However, I keep mine unlocked and loaded Well. I can say. I had an intruderer break in one nite and in a hurry I tried to chamber on (one already in the pipe.) Jammed the motherfucker but the site of the barrel looking at him was enough to make him flee. Cops said I had every right to shoot him dead. His lucky day. He only did 6 mths on that one thoIt wasn't the Glock tho. That's my baby now or my big fuckin KBar or a the big Maglite depending on the threat Oh yea, they wouldn't even think of charging you. How did he sneak in? I would want to create a set of locks so that someone would have to make a lot of noise to get in. 6 months? Fuck that. I guess they could only get him for tresspassing since he hadn;t stolen anything yet, right?LOL. He didn't sneak in. He forced his way in. He found out I was fuckin his ex. Now my ex. LOL And I only owe her 25K and I'm done LOL. And I thought the first wife was a bitch. Live and learn 25k...fuck that. So are you stalking her next BF? Maybe you can cut out the middle man (you) and pass her new address to the previous hubby. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #114 November 6, 2006 QuoteCommon place? Let me guess you’re not one of the college students. I bet the rate of enlisted guys attending even 1 college class per semester is <10%. I wouldn’t call it commonplace, although I do know some guys even go to OCS, and they make the best officers in that they’re not peckers like the college kids that go right in. Actually, I am one of the college kids, in my spare time I'm pursuing a degree in marketing and in a few years when I get out I will be going to college full time to get an MBA. QuoteNow you’re speaking for most soldiers w/o any data……this supports my assertion and I don’t mean that in an attacking way, just that educated people tend not to speak in absolutes, at least not very often, and they don’t continually speak for others of whom they don’t know. My perception is that kids go in the military enlisted because their life sucks and they want to get away. It was that way for me and I doubt it has changed, but it would be impossible for either one of us to establish the motives of the rest of the military. As for funds, have you heard of, FAFSA? FAFSA is a federal loan and is essentially guaranteed, so where does rich mommy/daddy come in? People enlist because home life sucks and they don’t wanna go to college, hence they aren’t the intellectual type. Yes, what would I know about the motives of people joining the military, after having served for going on 8 years now I've never once talked with all the people I run into or work beside about why they are here. You speak of your perception of why people join the military, so you have absolutely nothing to back up what you are saying. The military does a survey every year to determine everything from the ethnic breakdown of its ranks to the level of education, and the stats are looking better and better every year when it comes to the number of soldiers pusruing a higher education. I don't have them readily available but if you would like I would be more than happy to look them up for you. Another thing about those stats is usually they go off posted records of soldiers to determine who is going to college, and considering that most of us don't update our records but once every couple years those stats are a few years behind. So when I say the majority of soldiers are pursuing an education in their spare time, it's for a reason. Take a look at the army website sometime and it mentions all over it how easy it is to pursue an education while in the service, the military has countless programs to help soldiers take college classes. To join most of those programs all you have to do is attend a briefing and sign up and everytime I drive past the ed-center when they are going on there is a line going out the door. QuoteSee, you really make my case here. I grew up with the pathetic, “I gots street smarts” mentality. Although being a naïve punk-ass rich boy is as pathetic, reading and understanding the history of the nation, the world makes you a much more well rounded person. Uneducated = subservience / education = command. Where did I ever say anything about us being better people because we have "street smarts" I simply said that I feel life experience and maturity will make you a better person in the long-run. QuoteStreet smarts are like the contemporary Huggy Bear selling crack down the way. I doubt you’re in college, but you won’t understand what I wrote until after you graduate and then spend some time in life. So you speak about how people who go straight to seeking a higher education are better yet you make continuous insults like this. None of what I said has been meant to be insulting or condescending, I am merely trying to enlighten you as to the fact that soldiers are not a bunch of mindless killing machines. I guess if I want to look educated I should start insulting college kids. QuoteThey don’t want intelligence, as then they might have a conscientious objector, they want blind, stupid subservience and they do what they can to take reasonably intelligent kids and dumb them down as much as possible. So you're saying that all the written tests I had to take during Special Forces selection which eliminated some of the people in my selection class because they didn't have the problem solving skill and general knowledge to operate the way that we do were to prove that I am a mindless killer? And the written tests all recruits take when they are preparing to enlist are so they can pick the dumbest? Even though they don't have a cap on scores to keep the smart ones out, but they do have minimum requirements. Let's look at something else, in a few years I'll be out of the military preparing to enter the corporate world, after graduating when companies are flooded with brand new college grads who all have the same credentials for the most part, maybe there's a few honor society kids in there or someone who boasts being an eagle scout, who do you think is relaly going to have the advantage? There is a student who attended college just after high school, the high point of his resume is some sort of future entrepeneurs society and probably some academic achievements, both outstanding accomplishments that prove his ability to study hard and apply himself to a project. Then you have someone who spent close to 10 years in the military prior to attending college full time, the bright spots on the resume would probably include a few of the same academic achievements so looking at just the school portion the field is fairly level. But once you account for the fact that the former soldier has shown his ability to work as a team, work under adverse and stressful conditions, most likely has some outstanding military achievements(awards, commendations, and medals) from serving in combat, not to mention the soldier more than likely has extensive experience giving briefings to officers, and doing that requires you to be well-spoken, and confident, appearing before promotion boards also requires a great deal of confidence and you must present yourself in a professional manner. The soldier has also proven themselves to be a leader, officers aren't the only leaders in the military, actually they don't do much to lead, they write the plan and hand it to the senior enlisted leaders and let them make it happen. So who do you think is more likely to get the position? Look, I haven't tried to insult you in any way in my posts, but you constantly trash and belittle myself and my fellow servicemembers everytime you touch the keyboard. All I am trying to do here is open your eyes a little, we aren't a bunch of mindless machines who can't think for ourselves, yes the military is an alternative for those who didn't finish school and opted to get a GED isntead, but once in the military they have every opportunity to further their education. There are also those of us who had every opportunity to go to school but chose to serve our country instead, does that make us any less smart than someone who chose to go to college? Because I opted to fight for my country for puny wages instead of going straight to college to get out and make a 6 figure income am I an idiot? The experiences I've had being in the military will never be equalled by anything I'll do as a civilian. You also talk about me making claims about statistics, but what do you have to back up your claims? A lot less than I do last time I checked. Oh and a quick note on your claim about us not being in any better shape than civilians, again would you care to back up those claims? Also the sigline I have, as mentioned by someone else its a variation of a quote by George Orwell, not something out of a Jack Nicholson movie.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #115 November 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteJust as mysterious as why it is required for an educator to have a college degree. Right - structural engineering should be taught by high school dropouts. Our bridges and airplanes would be much safer. You're the one that wondered why all branches of the US military require a college education of their officers. Is it only technical/engineering disciplines that are justified in requiring a college education? Are there other colleges at your institution besides the college of engineering? Seems hypocritical to me. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #116 November 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteJust as mysterious as why it is required for an educator to have a college degree. Right - structural engineering should be taught by high school dropouts. Our bridges and airplanes would be much safer. You're the one that wondered why all branches of the US military require a college education of their officers. Is it only technical/engineering disciplines that are justified in requiring a college education? Are there other colleges at your institution besides the college of engineering? Seems hypocritical to me. You've already shown us that you don't know the definition of hypocrisy. I'm just responding about what I know best. However, I guess I'd like my family physician, neurologist, cardiologist, urologist etc., to have a college education too. Maybe one of our military officers will respond about the military's reasons for requiring a college degree- I just know that it's a requirement, and you need a Masters to progress beyond a certain grade (O5 maybe?). The Navy specifically requires calculus of its officers too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #117 November 6, 2006 It just surprises me that you would even wonder why it is required. Isn't there a college of business where you teach, don't they offer communication degrees, even political science? You might as well ask the professors over there at the other colleges why such a field of study is offered.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #118 November 6, 2006 QuoteIt just surprises me that you would even wonder why it is required. Isn't there a college of business where you teach, don't they offer communication degrees, even political science? You might as well ask the professors over there at the other colleges why such a field of study is offered. If you BOTHERED to read the post I was responding to, in which Royd wrote: "Education doesn't make you a leader. A lot of people go to school because they believe that it will entitle them to more money for less work. Learning something from the ground up makes you a far better leader than someone who just read a book." then my question to him makes more sense, doesn't it? You got the wrong end of the stick.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #119 November 6, 2006 QuoteLearning something from the ground up makes you a far better leader than someone who just read a book." then my question to him makes more sense, doesn't it? You got the wrong end of the stick. Quote Prof. Kallend, wouldn't him saying that imply that someone who learned through practical application(military), make them a better leader than someone who just studied the subjectHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #120 November 6, 2006 Quote Education doesn't make you a leader. A lot of people go to school because they believe that it will entitle them to more money for less work. Learning something from the ground up makes you a far better leader than someone who just read a book. I don't agree with you or the proj - leadership seems to be talent rather than a learned skill. Experience plus education, and especially both, might make an effective leader even better, but if he doesn't have the gift, neither will help him do more than fake it until the real thing comes along. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #121 November 6, 2006 QuoteSpeaking about average differences in intelligence between college kids and military (or even black vs white college students) has nothing to do with prejudice. Indeed, someone who knows what those differences are is more enlightened than someone who does not. Thats rich. You say enlightenend now, but you could easily have said racist, and maybe would, if it fit your view or angle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #122 November 6, 2006 What I find really funny is this...You make all kinds of claims with nothing to back them up. QuoteI don;t think soldiers are stupid, but I think they're not critical thinkers for the most part. I don't think the level of fitness is that much better than that of civilians. Then you insult the people you dont agree with for doing the SAME thing....HAHAHAHAAHAHA QuoteNow you’re speaking for most soldiers w/o any data……this supports my assertion and I don’t mean that in an attacking way, just that educated people tend not to speak in absolutes Quotebut I like to critically think like a white-collar person You posts do not show it. Here is a great example: you say : "By your grammar and punctuation I kind of doubt you are more than 100 level." But look in your OWN post :" I don;t think soldiers are stupid" He without grammer problems should cast the first stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #123 November 6, 2006 QuoteYes, basic training is a brainwashing process. Granted they don't try to disconnect your total memory, but they want to suppress the part of your mind that you use to reason. Again, this makes me think you never were in. QuoteDummies, yep, but hell, mist 18YO kids are, donlt you think? Show examples of intelligent kids other than child prodogies. Military or not, 18 YO kids are dummies, can you reject that? Nice *attempt* at a backpeddle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #124 November 6, 2006 >You say enlightenend now, but you could easily have said racist . . . Quick quiz. Which of these statements is racist? Black men have a lower skin cancer risk than white men, everything else being equal. Blacks are intended to work outside. BiDil has been proven to be effective at treating heart failure in black patients, but not in white patients. Blacks should not be allowed to become pilots because they can have heart attacks. In a study of one school district in Chicago, african-american students scored lower on standardized IQ tests than white students. Blacks are stupid. See any differences there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #125 November 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteLearning something from the ground up makes you a far better leader than someone who just read a book." then my question to him makes more sense, doesn't it? You got the wrong end of the stick. Quote Prof. Kallend, wouldn't him saying that imply that someone who learned through practical application(military), make them a better leader than someone who just studied the subject I'm sure promotion isn't given just on the basis of study, but being admitted to the officer corps in the first place seems to depend on having a college degree. We have quite a few enlisted men and women come into our ROTC program as officer candidates. If they don't get the degree, they go back into the enlisted ranks. If they get the degree they are commisoned. But hey, it's not my rule, it comes from DoD. Get a degree, pass the physical, do some (very) basic, get commissioned.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next Page 5 of 9 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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rehmwa 2 #120 November 6, 2006 Quote Education doesn't make you a leader. A lot of people go to school because they believe that it will entitle them to more money for less work. Learning something from the ground up makes you a far better leader than someone who just read a book. I don't agree with you or the proj - leadership seems to be talent rather than a learned skill. Experience plus education, and especially both, might make an effective leader even better, but if he doesn't have the gift, neither will help him do more than fake it until the real thing comes along. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #121 November 6, 2006 QuoteSpeaking about average differences in intelligence between college kids and military (or even black vs white college students) has nothing to do with prejudice. Indeed, someone who knows what those differences are is more enlightened than someone who does not. Thats rich. You say enlightenend now, but you could easily have said racist, and maybe would, if it fit your view or angle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #122 November 6, 2006 What I find really funny is this...You make all kinds of claims with nothing to back them up. QuoteI don;t think soldiers are stupid, but I think they're not critical thinkers for the most part. I don't think the level of fitness is that much better than that of civilians. Then you insult the people you dont agree with for doing the SAME thing....HAHAHAHAAHAHA QuoteNow you’re speaking for most soldiers w/o any data……this supports my assertion and I don’t mean that in an attacking way, just that educated people tend not to speak in absolutes Quotebut I like to critically think like a white-collar person You posts do not show it. Here is a great example: you say : "By your grammar and punctuation I kind of doubt you are more than 100 level." But look in your OWN post :" I don;t think soldiers are stupid" He without grammer problems should cast the first stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #123 November 6, 2006 QuoteYes, basic training is a brainwashing process. Granted they don't try to disconnect your total memory, but they want to suppress the part of your mind that you use to reason. Again, this makes me think you never were in. QuoteDummies, yep, but hell, mist 18YO kids are, donlt you think? Show examples of intelligent kids other than child prodogies. Military or not, 18 YO kids are dummies, can you reject that? Nice *attempt* at a backpeddle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #124 November 6, 2006 >You say enlightenend now, but you could easily have said racist . . . Quick quiz. Which of these statements is racist? Black men have a lower skin cancer risk than white men, everything else being equal. Blacks are intended to work outside. BiDil has been proven to be effective at treating heart failure in black patients, but not in white patients. Blacks should not be allowed to become pilots because they can have heart attacks. In a study of one school district in Chicago, african-american students scored lower on standardized IQ tests than white students. Blacks are stupid. See any differences there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #125 November 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteLearning something from the ground up makes you a far better leader than someone who just read a book." then my question to him makes more sense, doesn't it? You got the wrong end of the stick. Quote Prof. Kallend, wouldn't him saying that imply that someone who learned through practical application(military), make them a better leader than someone who just studied the subject I'm sure promotion isn't given just on the basis of study, but being admitted to the officer corps in the first place seems to depend on having a college degree. We have quite a few enlisted men and women come into our ROTC program as officer candidates. If they don't get the degree, they go back into the enlisted ranks. If they get the degree they are commisoned. But hey, it's not my rule, it comes from DoD. Get a degree, pass the physical, do some (very) basic, get commissioned.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next Page 5 of 9 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
