Bush and North Korea

[juanesky 0]

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"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

[kallend 2,150]

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doing a google on Kennth reveals he did not like Clintons aproach either.......

Tell me, did Clinton get a BJ?

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[akarunway 1]

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Now you gotta put words in my mouth to distract from the topic??

Do you agree that Bush has only added to the threat against the US. or do you disagree with the US Intelligence community?

I believe he has consentrated them and probably increased the numbers of them. (as would happen with any group in a fight)

I also believe the current threat the US is less right now because the terrorists are consentrating on Iraq.
I also believe if we leave now the numbers and the threat to the US will be multiplied by many.

I believe the current violence rate will drop dramaticly in a week as I think the current level is because of the elections. The terrorists are smart and know they can not beat our military but they have seen a history of us running when the going gets tough. And as Osam has said, that is how they intend to defeat us.

Some of my beliefs. Time will tell if I am even close.

Jesus H. Christ. Do you actually believe the shit you are typing?

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I feel it, when I sorrow most;
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Now you gotta put words in my mouth to distract from the topic??

Do you agree that Bush has only added to the threat against the US. or do you disagree with the US Intelligence community?

I believe he has consentrated them and probably increased the numbers of them. (as would happen with any group in a fight)

I also believe the current threat the US is less right now because the terrorists are consentrating on Iraq.
I also believe if we leave now the numbers and the threat to the US will be multiplied by many.

I believe the current violence rate will drop dramaticly in a week as I think the current level is because of the elections. The terrorists are smart and know they can not beat our military but they have seen a history of us running when the going gets tough. And as Osam has said, that is how they intend to defeat us.

Some of my beliefs. Time will tell if I am even close.

Jesus H. Christ. Do you actually believe the shit you are typing?

Jesus H. Christ Yes!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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doing a google on Kennth reveals he did not like Clintons aproach either.......

Tell me, did Clinton get a BJ?

So I am told

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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doing a google on Kennth reveals he did not like Clintons aproach either.......

Speaking of Hijacks...

Still think your master was this Great Leader when it comes to Korea?

Or, since this guy didn't like Clinton's apprach either, it's all okay?

[rushmc 23]

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doing a google on Kennth reveals he did not like Clintons aproach either.......

Speaking of Hijacks...

Still think your master was this Great Leader when it comes to Korea?

Or, since this guy didn't like Clinton's apprach either, it's all okay?

Why do you have to spin it anyway?

He looked at what didn't work and took another approach. The BS statement of the nuke was built on Bush's watch is crap. It was finished on his watch. See the difference? (does it matter?)

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Why do you have to spin it anyway?

I am trying to figure out why you said: he didn't like Clinton's apprach either?

Does that have any bearing on whether or not Bush may have damagaed earlier diplomatic efforts by his actions?

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Why do you have to spin it anyway?

I am trying to figure out why you said: he didn't like Clinton's apprach either?

Does that have any bearing on whether or not Bush may have damagaed earlier diplomatic efforts by his actions?

I do not acept that Bushed damaged diplomatic efforts but I was refering to the author posted that did not like Bushs approach. He did not like Clintons either. Does not make Bush right or wrong I was just simple putting this authors views in perspective and context.

Were there other ways to do it in your opinion? If so, what would your approach have been?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>I have yet to see you stay focused in a thread.

Well, since I'm not a republican, I can't just derail the thread into "Clinton got a blowjob!" at the drop of a hat.

It seems like Clinton's defenders use this ploy to distract from the topic at hand far more often than his detractors.

It's a slick move to cry foul when you or your ally commits the offense.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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I do not acept that Bushed damaged diplomatic efforts

Now why doesn't that surprise me?!? The guy was pretty intimitaly involved with the process. Any reason you don't believe him?

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Were there other ways to do it in your opinion? If so, what would your approach have been?

Not give the guy a verbal tongue lashing while your diplomats are trying to do a deal with him. Wrong timing. Had he not done that, multilateral talks could have taken place prior to and possibly prevented the nuclear test.

[kallend 2,150]

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Why do you have to spin it anyway?

I am trying to figure out why you said: he didn't like Clinton's apprach either?

Does that have any bearing on whether or not Bush may have damagaed earlier diplomatic efforts by his actions?

I do not acept that Bushed damaged diplomatic efforts but I was refering to the author posted that did not like Bushs approach. He did not like Clintons either. Does not make Bush right or wrong I was just simple putting this authors views in perspective and context.

Were there other ways to do it in your opinion? If so, what would your approach have been?

Why do you keep hijacking the thread? It's about Bush, not Clinton.

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Jesus H. Christ. Do you actually believe the shit you are typing?

A bunch of the ultra right wing beleives this.... Lush Rimjob tells them about it and they have to follow their cult leaders words.

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Jesus H. Christ. Do you actually believe the shit you are typing?

A bunch of the ultra right wing beleives this.... Lush Rimjob tells them about it and they have to follow their cult leaders words.

While that MAY be true, I don't think many (if any) of those types post on this forum.

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While that MAY be true, I don't think many (if any) of those types post on this forum.

OH PUHLEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZE

[kallend 2,150]

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Why do you have to spin it anyway?

I am trying to figure out why you said: he didn't like Clinton's apprach either?

Does that have any bearing on whether or not Bush may have damagaed earlier diplomatic efforts by his actions?

I do not acept that Bushed damaged diplomatic efforts but I was refering to the author posted that did not like Bushs approach. He did not like Clintons either. Does not make Bush right or wrong I was just simple putting this authors views in perspective and context.

Were there other ways to do it in your opinion? If so, what would your approach have been?

Well, screw diplomacy, it now seems the Bush administration posted nuclear recipes on the internet, at the urging of congressional Republicans. No wonder NK got its act together.

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I mean he is the Poster Boy for the Republican party's hypocrisy.. yet a lot of his words come flying out of some peoples mouths on a daily basis...

And you and others are not mouth pieces for "moveon"?

The humor I see here is that some want to blame one man for NK going nuke. Truth is the list of failures is quite long and contains people from both parties over several years.

Is it so hard to admit that Bush got what he wanted here and that might be a good thing? Maybe not as good as NK never getting a nuke, but before you blame Georgie alone, you should admit that the list is longer than one man and 6 years.

[akarunway 1]

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I mean he is the Poster Boy for the Republican party's hypocrisy.. yet a lot of his words come flying out of some peoples mouths on a daily basis...

And you and others are not mouth pieces for "moveon"?

The humor I see here is that some want to blame one man for NK going nuke. Truth is the list of failures is quite long and contains people from both parties over several years.

Is it so hard to admit that Bush got what he wanted here and that might be a good thing? Maybe not as good as NK never getting a nuke, but before you blame Georgie alone, you should admit that the list is longer than one man and 6 years.

OMG. A SANE opinion

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Amazon 7]

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And you and others are not mouth pieces for "moveon"?

Personlly I have never even read their crap... but go on believing what you will.

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Is it so hard to admit that Bush got what he wanted here and that might be a good thing? Maybe not as good as NK never getting a nuke, but before you blame Georgie alone, you should admit that the list is longer than one man and 6 years.

He and his cronies campaigned on changing things and making us secure.. yet here we are with even worse abuses of power.. and less security than we had before..because NOW there are a bunch more of the Islamic wingnuts willing to attack us just for being Americans and then we have this munchkin tyrant who has starved his country into poverty because he constantly gets belittled by BIG OLE BAD BUSH but now the little dictator.. has a nuke...just like the BIG DICTATOR has MANY....... GOOD JOB GEORGE

[billvon 3,119]

>The humor I see here is that some want to blame one man for NK
>going nuke.

Uh, there IS one man responsible for that - Kim Jong-Il. The US really isn't in charge of every country in the world. I fear the attitude that it is has led to a lot of animosity towards the US over the years. Witness the recent UK poll.

OTOH, his obtaining a nuclear weapon may end up being a good thing, if it forces other countries (including the US) to take the sovereginty of other nations more seriously.

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He and his cronies campaigned on changing things and making us secure.. yet here we are with even worse abuses of power.. and less security than we had before..because NOW there are a bunch more of the Islamic wingnuts willing to attack us just for being Americans and then we have this munchkin tyrant who has starved his country into poverty because he constantly gets belittled by BIG OLE BAD BUSH but now the little dictator.. has a nuke...just like the BIG DICTATOR has MANY....... GOOD JOB GEORGE

Go on believing what you will.

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Go on believing what you will.

It sure is a bitch when what I believe jumps up and slaps the american people in the face...Being in Seattle We are just about in range for the little dictators missles... although he would be far better off just driving a freighter into Puget Sound.... with his nuke oni board.. and Homeland Security as set up by your wonderfull FEARLESS LEADER is a friggin joke when it comes to ACTUAL PORT SECURITY.

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And you and others are not mouth pieces for "moveon"?

Personlly I have never even read their crap... but go on believing what you will.

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Is it so hard to admit that Bush got what he wanted here and that might be a good thing? Maybe not as good as NK never getting a nuke, but before you blame Georgie alone, you should admit that the list is longer than one man and 6 years.

He and his cronies campaigned on changing things and making us secure.. yet here we are with even worse abuses of power.. and less security than we had before..because NOW there are a bunch more of the Islamic wingnuts willing to attack us just for being Americans and then we have this munchkin tyrant who has starved his country into poverty because he constantly gets belittled by BIG OLE BAD BUSH but now the little dictator.. has a nuke...just like the BIG DICTATOR has MANY....... GOOD JOB GEORGE

While on the topic of making us more secure:
www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/03/national/main2151021.shtml

Maybe the Administration should worry about REAL security problems instead of people taking shampoo and fingernail files on airplanes.

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It sure is a bitch when what I believe jumps up and slaps the american people in the face...Being in Seattle We are just about in range for the little dictators missles... although he would be far better off just driving a freighter into Puget Sound.... with his nuke oni board.. and Homeland Security as set up by your wonderfull FEARLESS LEADER is a friggin joke when it comes to ACTUAL PORT SECURITY.

Go on believing what you will.

[Amazon 7]

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Maybe the Administration should worry about REAL security problems instead of people taking shampoo and fingernail files on airplanes.

Hell I wonder why they nave not taken my pens in my computer bag away from me yet... I mean If I was of a mind to... its all too easy to take a pen.. and drive it through someones neck....