SkyDekker 1,465 #76 November 1, 2006 QuoteSee this is what I don't get. Bush isn't running for anything. Nor is Kerry, though there are two threads running about his comments. QuoteIf all you can do to defend Kerry is compare him to Bush, you guys are way short on a viable candidate. Funny. Any time anything about Bush is brought up, the standard reply is "Clinton got a blowjob". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #77 November 1, 2006 You never heard me say that. Slick Willie and W aren't running for anything. Time spent talking about them is a waste of time. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #78 November 1, 2006 QuoteSlick Willie and W aren't running for anything. Time spent talking about them is a waste of time. it's very cathartic, though. or obsessive I can't believe you don't care about the mental health of your fellow skydivers ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #79 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteSee this is what I don't get. Bush isn't running for anything. Nor is Kerry, though there are two threads running about his comments. The difference is Bush can't run, Kerry most likely will. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #80 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteI never said serving in the Navy in Vietnam was risk-free. I never said service in the Navy was any less noble and valuble than duty in any other branch of our armed services. My point was that is was less risky than serving in the Army. . How did it compare with the Alabama and Texas National Guards? How about Clinton the draft dodger? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #81 November 1, 2006 QuoteSo Kerry, a polished speaker from the far left, made that much of a goof up? Only in the imaginations of leftists. Face it - we all know what he meant and the underlying attitudes that would generate such a remark. Dude, he spent the rest of the speech insulting Bush. What's so difficult about the notion that this statement was another intended jab? He basically dropped one word. Has he got some elitist in him? I'm sure he does, as do all of our corporately owned politicians. But at least he isn't so far out of touch that he thinks that things "worked out pretty well" for the Katrina victims. If it's elitism that pisses you off there are better examples than Kerry's comment. But if you're just playing politics then have at it. Tis the season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #82 November 1, 2006 >How about Clinton the draft dodger? This thread is now complete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #83 November 1, 2006 QuoteHow about Clinton the draft dodger? If you feel thisw way about Clinton.. after recieving valid defferments.... how do you feel about almost all of this administration did it.. With Cheney leading the pack of cowards.. All draft dodgers too??? Or is that only reserved for democrats you dont like???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #84 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI never said serving in the Navy in Vietnam was risk-free. I never said service in the Navy was any less noble and valuble than duty in any other branch of our armed services. My point was that is was less risky than serving in the Army. . How did it compare with the Alabama and Texas National Guards? See this is what I don't get. Bush isn't running for anything. If all you can do to defend Kerry is compare him to Bush, you guys are way short on a viable candidate. But hey, we already knew that. Kerry is who he is. A NE liberal who bends with every sway of the wind. I think the issue is that these Senators have aligned themselves with Bush via their vote all these years, yet now want to deny knowing him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #85 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSee this is what I don't get. Bush isn't running for anything. Nor is Kerry, though there are two threads running about his comments. The difference is Bush can't run, Kerry most likely will. Kerry didn't and Bush did..... run that is; remember Viet Nam? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #86 November 1, 2006 I agree. I'm bored with it. The vitriolic rhetoric about the incident still going on is amusing though. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites brierebecca 0 #87 November 1, 2006 QuoteHe said something like "you can do well in school or end up stuck in Iraq". It pissed me off because even though I'm against the war in Iraq (no apologies either), I know a lot of well educated people who have gone and served there. I deeply respect their service and oppose the war entirely because I've always believed it was a poorly planned strategic blunder that is only squandering a lot of lives and treasure in the wrong place I think I read something on CNN about one of Kerry's aids saying that the joke was supposed to be something like "you can do well in school or you can end up getting us stuck in Iraq." In other words, he was supposed to be referring to the fact that Bush didn't do so well at Yale, not inferring that only dumb people join the military. So he botched the joke. No one's arguing that Bush didn't botch the war. Brie"Ive seen you hump air, hump the floor of the plane, and hump legs. You now have a new nickname: "Black Humper of Death"--yardhippie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #88 November 1, 2006 QuoteSo he botched the joke. No one's arguing that Bush didn't botch the war. Uh there are severl people here who are STILL convinced its not a botched war..... its only the DRIVE BY MEDIA who only show all the bad things like bombings and sniper kills of our guys.. who are causing this to be so bad... the rest of Iraq is really a great tourist destination dont you know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #89 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteHow about Clinton the draft dodger? If you feel thisw way about Clinton.. after recieving valid defferments.... how do you feel about almost all of this administration did it.. With Cheney leading the pack of cowards.. All draft dodgers too??? Or is that only reserved for democrats you dont like???? Clinton's deceptive, back-stabbing tactics used to avoid service is decidedly different from Bush, Cheney et al "working the system". http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #90 November 1, 2006 Anyhow, to wrap this all up, I did a highly scientific poll. The results: 92.4% of this year's electorate doesn't give a shit about anything discussed in this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites steveorino 7 #91 November 1, 2006 QuoteKerry didn't and Bush did..... run that is; remember Viet Nam? So your opinion all who served in the reserves or National guard are cowards? steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #92 November 1, 2006 Quote I think the issue is that these Senators have aligned themselves with Bush via their vote all these years, yet now want to deny knowing him. Have you noticed how few of them are using the term "Republican" in their ads? The preferred term this year is "independant". Talk about an identity crisis! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #93 November 1, 2006 >Clinton's deceptive . . . I'm sorry, this thread has used up its allotment of gratuitious references to Clinton, and must now change to gratuitous attacks against some other democrat. Might I suggest: -The Crane/Stubbs scandal. (Only don't mention Crane.) Has nothing to do with this - but boy, that Stubbs was sure an asshole. -James Buchanan. Democrat, and widely regarded as one of the worst presidents ever. (And he's so far back that almost no one will be able to check anything you claim about him.) -Tammy Duckworth. She's a democrat running for a House seat. Her opponent called her a "cut and run" democrat - get on that bandwagon! -Hilary Clinton. There must be one or two comparisons to a whore/slut/witch that republicans haven't come up with yet. -Harry Reid. Now there's a scandal you can sink your teeth into! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jlmiracle 7 #94 November 1, 2006 The troops are asking for Kerry's help. Maybe we should stop the kerry bashing. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #95 November 1, 2006 QuoteClinton's deceptive, back-stabbing tactics used to avoid service is decidedly different from Bush, Cheney et al "working the system". Ohhhhhh just a BIT of vitriol and hatred there from the compassionate conservative right From what I was reading on YOUR linked site he did nothing more to avoid the draft than many of the NEO-CON administration.. in fact far less than Bush or Quayle... .. and even far less than Cheney et al....WOW even his family to get his uncle to talk to Sen Fulbright to get the local draft board to give him more time before the Oxford trip... oooooooooohhhh so that he could have a bit longer to attend Oxford........oooooohhhhhh Last time I checked it was a good thing to a get a someone capable of even getting a scholarship and keep those young men and women who are bright enough to get that sort of thing.. in school rather than in a foxhole in Vietnam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #96 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI never said serving in the Navy in Vietnam was risk-free. I never said service in the Navy was any less noble and valuble than duty in any other branch of our armed services. My point was that is was less risky than serving in the Army. . How did it compare with the Alabama and Texas National Guards? See this is what I don't get. Bush isn't running for anything. If all you can do to defend Kerry is compare him to Bush, you guys are way short on a viable candidate. But hey, we already knew that. . So what is Kerry running for? IIRC his term is not up until 2008. If Bush is off limits, then so is Kerry.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites steveorino 7 #97 November 1, 2006 QuoteSo what is Kerry running for? IIRC his term is not up until 2008. If Bush is off limits, then so is Kerry. $5 says he will run for Prez. Wanna bet? I'm not the only one who believes he will run in '08 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/14/AR2006101400554.html steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #98 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteClinton's deceptive, back-stabbing tactics used to avoid service is decidedly different from Bush, Cheney et al "working the system". Ohhhhhh just a BIT of vitriol and hatred there from the compassionate conservative right From what I was reading on YOUR linked site he did nothing more to avoid the draft than many of the NEO-CON administration.. in fact far less than Bush or Quayle... .. and even far less than Cheney et al....WOW even getting his uncle talked to his senator to get the local draft board to give him more time befoe the Oxford trip... oooooooooohhhh so that he could have a bit longer to attend Oxford........oooooohhhhhh Last time I checked it was a good thing to a get a someone capable of even getting a scholarship and keep those young men and women who are bright enough to get that sort of thing.. in school rather than in a foxhole in Vietnam No vitriol, here. The information in the link it's pretty obvious that he ignored notices (and then made up lies to cover them). More to the point, he enlisted the aid of people like Colonel Eugene Holmes to help him gain beneficial status changes, while misrepresenting himself, then leaving them to deal with the consequences while he skated on his obligations. For anyone who read the entire page, I'd think this would be obvious. I'd love to hear how this is "far less" than the actions of Bush, Cheney and Quayle. I'm talking about specifics, not some vitriol about "Bush's daddy got him into the National Guard". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #99 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo what is Kerry running for? IIRC his term is not up until 2008. If Bush is off limits, then so is Kerry. $5 says he will run for Prez. Wanna bet? I'm not the only one who believes he will run in '08 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/14/AR2006101400554.html He isn't running for anything - correct? What you think he MAY do in the future does not constitute FACT. Why can't we discuss really important stuff - like Mick Jagger's sore throat?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites steveorino 7 #100 November 1, 2006 My response to an idiotic statement by a past Democratic Presidential candidate who most likely will run again, is appropiate. Comparing Kerry to Bush is not. If you must compare Kerry to someone he should be compared to probable Rep candidates, not someone who beat him and cannot run again because of our constitutional limits on the President's terms. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next Page 4 of 11 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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NCclimber 0 #80 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteI never said serving in the Navy in Vietnam was risk-free. I never said service in the Navy was any less noble and valuble than duty in any other branch of our armed services. My point was that is was less risky than serving in the Army. . How did it compare with the Alabama and Texas National Guards? How about Clinton the draft dodger? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #81 November 1, 2006 QuoteSo Kerry, a polished speaker from the far left, made that much of a goof up? Only in the imaginations of leftists. Face it - we all know what he meant and the underlying attitudes that would generate such a remark. Dude, he spent the rest of the speech insulting Bush. What's so difficult about the notion that this statement was another intended jab? He basically dropped one word. Has he got some elitist in him? I'm sure he does, as do all of our corporately owned politicians. But at least he isn't so far out of touch that he thinks that things "worked out pretty well" for the Katrina victims. If it's elitism that pisses you off there are better examples than Kerry's comment. But if you're just playing politics then have at it. Tis the season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #82 November 1, 2006 >How about Clinton the draft dodger? This thread is now complete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #83 November 1, 2006 QuoteHow about Clinton the draft dodger? If you feel thisw way about Clinton.. after recieving valid defferments.... how do you feel about almost all of this administration did it.. With Cheney leading the pack of cowards.. All draft dodgers too??? Or is that only reserved for democrats you dont like???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #84 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI never said serving in the Navy in Vietnam was risk-free. I never said service in the Navy was any less noble and valuble than duty in any other branch of our armed services. My point was that is was less risky than serving in the Army. . How did it compare with the Alabama and Texas National Guards? See this is what I don't get. Bush isn't running for anything. If all you can do to defend Kerry is compare him to Bush, you guys are way short on a viable candidate. But hey, we already knew that. Kerry is who he is. A NE liberal who bends with every sway of the wind. I think the issue is that these Senators have aligned themselves with Bush via their vote all these years, yet now want to deny knowing him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #85 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSee this is what I don't get. Bush isn't running for anything. Nor is Kerry, though there are two threads running about his comments. The difference is Bush can't run, Kerry most likely will. Kerry didn't and Bush did..... run that is; remember Viet Nam? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #86 November 1, 2006 I agree. I'm bored with it. The vitriolic rhetoric about the incident still going on is amusing though. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites brierebecca 0 #87 November 1, 2006 QuoteHe said something like "you can do well in school or end up stuck in Iraq". It pissed me off because even though I'm against the war in Iraq (no apologies either), I know a lot of well educated people who have gone and served there. I deeply respect their service and oppose the war entirely because I've always believed it was a poorly planned strategic blunder that is only squandering a lot of lives and treasure in the wrong place I think I read something on CNN about one of Kerry's aids saying that the joke was supposed to be something like "you can do well in school or you can end up getting us stuck in Iraq." In other words, he was supposed to be referring to the fact that Bush didn't do so well at Yale, not inferring that only dumb people join the military. So he botched the joke. No one's arguing that Bush didn't botch the war. Brie"Ive seen you hump air, hump the floor of the plane, and hump legs. You now have a new nickname: "Black Humper of Death"--yardhippie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #88 November 1, 2006 QuoteSo he botched the joke. No one's arguing that Bush didn't botch the war. Uh there are severl people here who are STILL convinced its not a botched war..... its only the DRIVE BY MEDIA who only show all the bad things like bombings and sniper kills of our guys.. who are causing this to be so bad... the rest of Iraq is really a great tourist destination dont you know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #89 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteHow about Clinton the draft dodger? If you feel thisw way about Clinton.. after recieving valid defferments.... how do you feel about almost all of this administration did it.. With Cheney leading the pack of cowards.. All draft dodgers too??? Or is that only reserved for democrats you dont like???? Clinton's deceptive, back-stabbing tactics used to avoid service is decidedly different from Bush, Cheney et al "working the system". http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #90 November 1, 2006 Anyhow, to wrap this all up, I did a highly scientific poll. The results: 92.4% of this year's electorate doesn't give a shit about anything discussed in this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites steveorino 7 #91 November 1, 2006 QuoteKerry didn't and Bush did..... run that is; remember Viet Nam? So your opinion all who served in the reserves or National guard are cowards? steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #92 November 1, 2006 Quote I think the issue is that these Senators have aligned themselves with Bush via their vote all these years, yet now want to deny knowing him. Have you noticed how few of them are using the term "Republican" in their ads? The preferred term this year is "independant". Talk about an identity crisis! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #93 November 1, 2006 >Clinton's deceptive . . . I'm sorry, this thread has used up its allotment of gratuitious references to Clinton, and must now change to gratuitous attacks against some other democrat. Might I suggest: -The Crane/Stubbs scandal. (Only don't mention Crane.) Has nothing to do with this - but boy, that Stubbs was sure an asshole. -James Buchanan. Democrat, and widely regarded as one of the worst presidents ever. (And he's so far back that almost no one will be able to check anything you claim about him.) -Tammy Duckworth. She's a democrat running for a House seat. Her opponent called her a "cut and run" democrat - get on that bandwagon! -Hilary Clinton. There must be one or two comparisons to a whore/slut/witch that republicans haven't come up with yet. -Harry Reid. Now there's a scandal you can sink your teeth into! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jlmiracle 7 #94 November 1, 2006 The troops are asking for Kerry's help. Maybe we should stop the kerry bashing. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #95 November 1, 2006 QuoteClinton's deceptive, back-stabbing tactics used to avoid service is decidedly different from Bush, Cheney et al "working the system". Ohhhhhh just a BIT of vitriol and hatred there from the compassionate conservative right From what I was reading on YOUR linked site he did nothing more to avoid the draft than many of the NEO-CON administration.. in fact far less than Bush or Quayle... .. and even far less than Cheney et al....WOW even his family to get his uncle to talk to Sen Fulbright to get the local draft board to give him more time before the Oxford trip... oooooooooohhhh so that he could have a bit longer to attend Oxford........oooooohhhhhh Last time I checked it was a good thing to a get a someone capable of even getting a scholarship and keep those young men and women who are bright enough to get that sort of thing.. in school rather than in a foxhole in Vietnam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #96 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI never said serving in the Navy in Vietnam was risk-free. I never said service in the Navy was any less noble and valuble than duty in any other branch of our armed services. My point was that is was less risky than serving in the Army. . How did it compare with the Alabama and Texas National Guards? See this is what I don't get. Bush isn't running for anything. If all you can do to defend Kerry is compare him to Bush, you guys are way short on a viable candidate. But hey, we already knew that. . So what is Kerry running for? IIRC his term is not up until 2008. If Bush is off limits, then so is Kerry.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites steveorino 7 #97 November 1, 2006 QuoteSo what is Kerry running for? IIRC his term is not up until 2008. If Bush is off limits, then so is Kerry. $5 says he will run for Prez. Wanna bet? I'm not the only one who believes he will run in '08 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/14/AR2006101400554.html steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #98 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteClinton's deceptive, back-stabbing tactics used to avoid service is decidedly different from Bush, Cheney et al "working the system". Ohhhhhh just a BIT of vitriol and hatred there from the compassionate conservative right From what I was reading on YOUR linked site he did nothing more to avoid the draft than many of the NEO-CON administration.. in fact far less than Bush or Quayle... .. and even far less than Cheney et al....WOW even getting his uncle talked to his senator to get the local draft board to give him more time befoe the Oxford trip... oooooooooohhhh so that he could have a bit longer to attend Oxford........oooooohhhhhh Last time I checked it was a good thing to a get a someone capable of even getting a scholarship and keep those young men and women who are bright enough to get that sort of thing.. in school rather than in a foxhole in Vietnam No vitriol, here. The information in the link it's pretty obvious that he ignored notices (and then made up lies to cover them). More to the point, he enlisted the aid of people like Colonel Eugene Holmes to help him gain beneficial status changes, while misrepresenting himself, then leaving them to deal with the consequences while he skated on his obligations. For anyone who read the entire page, I'd think this would be obvious. I'd love to hear how this is "far less" than the actions of Bush, Cheney and Quayle. I'm talking about specifics, not some vitriol about "Bush's daddy got him into the National Guard". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #99 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo what is Kerry running for? IIRC his term is not up until 2008. If Bush is off limits, then so is Kerry. $5 says he will run for Prez. Wanna bet? I'm not the only one who believes he will run in '08 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/14/AR2006101400554.html He isn't running for anything - correct? What you think he MAY do in the future does not constitute FACT. Why can't we discuss really important stuff - like Mick Jagger's sore throat?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites steveorino 7 #100 November 1, 2006 My response to an idiotic statement by a past Democratic Presidential candidate who most likely will run again, is appropiate. Comparing Kerry to Bush is not. If you must compare Kerry to someone he should be compared to probable Rep candidates, not someone who beat him and cannot run again because of our constitutional limits on the President's terms. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next Page 4 of 11 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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TheAnvil 0 #86 November 1, 2006 I agree. I'm bored with it. The vitriolic rhetoric about the incident still going on is amusing though. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brierebecca 0 #87 November 1, 2006 QuoteHe said something like "you can do well in school or end up stuck in Iraq". It pissed me off because even though I'm against the war in Iraq (no apologies either), I know a lot of well educated people who have gone and served there. I deeply respect their service and oppose the war entirely because I've always believed it was a poorly planned strategic blunder that is only squandering a lot of lives and treasure in the wrong place I think I read something on CNN about one of Kerry's aids saying that the joke was supposed to be something like "you can do well in school or you can end up getting us stuck in Iraq." In other words, he was supposed to be referring to the fact that Bush didn't do so well at Yale, not inferring that only dumb people join the military. So he botched the joke. No one's arguing that Bush didn't botch the war. Brie"Ive seen you hump air, hump the floor of the plane, and hump legs. You now have a new nickname: "Black Humper of Death"--yardhippie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #88 November 1, 2006 QuoteSo he botched the joke. No one's arguing that Bush didn't botch the war. Uh there are severl people here who are STILL convinced its not a botched war..... its only the DRIVE BY MEDIA who only show all the bad things like bombings and sniper kills of our guys.. who are causing this to be so bad... the rest of Iraq is really a great tourist destination dont you know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #89 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteHow about Clinton the draft dodger? If you feel thisw way about Clinton.. after recieving valid defferments.... how do you feel about almost all of this administration did it.. With Cheney leading the pack of cowards.. All draft dodgers too??? Or is that only reserved for democrats you dont like???? Clinton's deceptive, back-stabbing tactics used to avoid service is decidedly different from Bush, Cheney et al "working the system". http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #90 November 1, 2006 Anyhow, to wrap this all up, I did a highly scientific poll. The results: 92.4% of this year's electorate doesn't give a shit about anything discussed in this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #91 November 1, 2006 QuoteKerry didn't and Bush did..... run that is; remember Viet Nam? So your opinion all who served in the reserves or National guard are cowards? steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #92 November 1, 2006 Quote I think the issue is that these Senators have aligned themselves with Bush via their vote all these years, yet now want to deny knowing him. Have you noticed how few of them are using the term "Republican" in their ads? The preferred term this year is "independant". Talk about an identity crisis! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #93 November 1, 2006 >Clinton's deceptive . . . I'm sorry, this thread has used up its allotment of gratuitious references to Clinton, and must now change to gratuitous attacks against some other democrat. Might I suggest: -The Crane/Stubbs scandal. (Only don't mention Crane.) Has nothing to do with this - but boy, that Stubbs was sure an asshole. -James Buchanan. Democrat, and widely regarded as one of the worst presidents ever. (And he's so far back that almost no one will be able to check anything you claim about him.) -Tammy Duckworth. She's a democrat running for a House seat. Her opponent called her a "cut and run" democrat - get on that bandwagon! -Hilary Clinton. There must be one or two comparisons to a whore/slut/witch that republicans haven't come up with yet. -Harry Reid. Now there's a scandal you can sink your teeth into! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #94 November 1, 2006 The troops are asking for Kerry's help. Maybe we should stop the kerry bashing. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #95 November 1, 2006 QuoteClinton's deceptive, back-stabbing tactics used to avoid service is decidedly different from Bush, Cheney et al "working the system". Ohhhhhh just a BIT of vitriol and hatred there from the compassionate conservative right From what I was reading on YOUR linked site he did nothing more to avoid the draft than many of the NEO-CON administration.. in fact far less than Bush or Quayle... .. and even far less than Cheney et al....WOW even his family to get his uncle to talk to Sen Fulbright to get the local draft board to give him more time before the Oxford trip... oooooooooohhhh so that he could have a bit longer to attend Oxford........oooooohhhhhh Last time I checked it was a good thing to a get a someone capable of even getting a scholarship and keep those young men and women who are bright enough to get that sort of thing.. in school rather than in a foxhole in Vietnam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #96 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI never said serving in the Navy in Vietnam was risk-free. I never said service in the Navy was any less noble and valuble than duty in any other branch of our armed services. My point was that is was less risky than serving in the Army. . How did it compare with the Alabama and Texas National Guards? See this is what I don't get. Bush isn't running for anything. If all you can do to defend Kerry is compare him to Bush, you guys are way short on a viable candidate. But hey, we already knew that. . So what is Kerry running for? IIRC his term is not up until 2008. If Bush is off limits, then so is Kerry.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #97 November 1, 2006 QuoteSo what is Kerry running for? IIRC his term is not up until 2008. If Bush is off limits, then so is Kerry. $5 says he will run for Prez. Wanna bet? I'm not the only one who believes he will run in '08 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/14/AR2006101400554.html steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #98 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteClinton's deceptive, back-stabbing tactics used to avoid service is decidedly different from Bush, Cheney et al "working the system". Ohhhhhh just a BIT of vitriol and hatred there from the compassionate conservative right From what I was reading on YOUR linked site he did nothing more to avoid the draft than many of the NEO-CON administration.. in fact far less than Bush or Quayle... .. and even far less than Cheney et al....WOW even getting his uncle talked to his senator to get the local draft board to give him more time befoe the Oxford trip... oooooooooohhhh so that he could have a bit longer to attend Oxford........oooooohhhhhh Last time I checked it was a good thing to a get a someone capable of even getting a scholarship and keep those young men and women who are bright enough to get that sort of thing.. in school rather than in a foxhole in Vietnam No vitriol, here. The information in the link it's pretty obvious that he ignored notices (and then made up lies to cover them). More to the point, he enlisted the aid of people like Colonel Eugene Holmes to help him gain beneficial status changes, while misrepresenting himself, then leaving them to deal with the consequences while he skated on his obligations. For anyone who read the entire page, I'd think this would be obvious. I'd love to hear how this is "far less" than the actions of Bush, Cheney and Quayle. I'm talking about specifics, not some vitriol about "Bush's daddy got him into the National Guard". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #99 November 1, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo what is Kerry running for? IIRC his term is not up until 2008. If Bush is off limits, then so is Kerry. $5 says he will run for Prez. Wanna bet? I'm not the only one who believes he will run in '08 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/14/AR2006101400554.html He isn't running for anything - correct? What you think he MAY do in the future does not constitute FACT. Why can't we discuss really important stuff - like Mick Jagger's sore throat?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #100 November 1, 2006 My response to an idiotic statement by a past Democratic Presidential candidate who most likely will run again, is appropiate. Comparing Kerry to Bush is not. If you must compare Kerry to someone he should be compared to probable Rep candidates, not someone who beat him and cannot run again because of our constitutional limits on the President's terms. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
