Lou Dobbs and friends

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Whew! i just got back from a week-long trip to San Diego. Lots of work, limited internet (hotel and social engagements being the main reasons), and the like. I got back to the hotel room after work on the first day and when I turned on the TV, CNN popped up. Normally I'm a FOX and CNN Headline News guy, but since CNN was on, I said "what the hell?" and decided to watch it for a week to see how they were doing business.

I watched a bit of CNN every day, and what I saw was utterly apalling. I always remembered CNN being slightly biased towards the left, prior to the emergence of FNC. Apparently that slight bias has evolved into an all out 35-40 degree tilt from what I saw during the past week.

If Lou Dobbs isn't being funded by the DNC, then he really should be. He echoes DNC talking points and his war on the middle class series seems to have but one purpose - to malign the Bush administration and Repubicans in congress.

Every facet of the news, the commentary, and the reporting had some sort of leftist bias in it. They're even running a commercial calling on GWB to stop the genocide in Darfur - as if he could snap his fingers and do so.

It's a bit saddening that what's airing on CNN today passes for actual journalism and not political advertisement. I don't think I'll tune in again - other than for entertainment purposes. I like reading my news better anyway. CNN's website - in contrast - normally has some good stuff.

A bit of Anvil commentary. Perhaps it's been going on for a while and I hadn't noticed, but what I saw really amazed me.

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If Lou Dobbs isn't being funded by the DNC, then he really should be. He echoes DNC talking points and his war on the middle class series seems to have but one purpose - to malign the Bush administration and Repubicans in congress.

Hmmm...You're the second person today that I have seen try to describe Lou Dobbs. The funny thing was the other person described him as being very conservative.

I'll have to check him out and see for myself, I guess.

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The funny thing was the other person described him as being very conservative.

He is and he is a repulican as well..

Lou's new book "War on the Middle Class" is an interesting read... it points out this administrations attack on the middle class which up against a Congress that is driven by powerful corporations and dominant special interests.

It definitely points out the difference of conservative values... and NEO-CON greed at the expense of the american people.

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What I saw was not very conservative or balanced, though I've heard Dobbs did some superb work on reporting about the illegal immigration crisis. What I saw on War on the Middle Class was more or less a political advertisement for the DNC. Watch him and see what you think yourself.

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Watch him and see what you think yourself

So basically Vinnie.. he is no longer with you so... he is against you...

[TheAnvil 0]

Think that if you like. He might be with me on some issues - I'm not a frequent viewer and can't say for sure, but that doesn't mitigate the fact that I saw hiim spouting DNC talking points last week time and again, especially when it came to the issue of school choice. I'm quite amazed that what he was doing could be considered journalism by anyone.

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They're even running a commercial calling on GWB to stop the genocide in Darfur - as if he could snap his fingers and do so.

With enough troops, he might be able to stop it.

Have you read "Shake Hands with the Devil" by Lt-General Romeo Dallaire?

Lt-General Dallaire feels that history is repeating itself in Darfur. He's seeing Rwanda all over again, and I think that out of all people, he'd know.

"Nobody feels the blood nor the sin of it all," said General Romeo Dallaire, former commander of a small United Nations force in Rwanda. He did not have the manpower or the orders to intervene.

He sees history repeating itself in Sudan and says intervention is already late.

"No-one wants to get involved again. The... casualties [are] still there and I think the most catastrophic affair is [that] there's nobody who's giving the UN the teeth to be able to do something tangible on the ground. And that, to me, is the scandal of it all...To me, the whole exercise in calling it genocide or not is nothing more than political semantics, and so the Americans have just used - nearly flippantly - the term genocide and they've done absolutely nothing on the ground in regards to conducting an operation to stop genocide.

"The term is something that people are using as simply a statement, but no commitment to it."

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Lou Dobbs just wants Bush to do his job and stop turning his back on the working people of this country. Bush never had a clue how the Americans people felt about border security, illegal immigration, or job loss or just didn't care. Lou Dobbs brought these things to his attention. I quit Fox for a while and went to CNN because of the Dubai Port thing and Illegal Immigration. I did get a charge this morning on CNN when Dick Chaney's wife had Wolf Blitzer? studdering over how CNN obtained terrorist tapes. She accused CNN of being a propagandist for the terrorists. Maybe there is something to it. As for representing the DNC, CNN has been a little more blatant this close to the election. Nobody is "fair and balanced".

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I've never read General Dallaire's book, but don't think it would reveal how GWB could stop the Darfur fiasco.

One might ask from whence the troops for Darfur stabilization would come. The argument for direct US intervention in the Darfur region is tenuous at best. Why do you think such intervention would be in the national interest?

Stopping the atrocities in Darfur is a noble goal, but not one the U.S. should undertake. The commercials have a purpose in addition to raising the awareness about Darfur - and that purpose is to malign the President. The fact is GWB can no more stop the atrocities in Darfur than he can change the orbit of the moon. He could take steps to encourage other nations to do so, however, and I think he should do that.

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Interesting story I read on Lou this morn.>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/29/AR2006102900715.html?referrer=email

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

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If we were only going to act in our own national interest, we shouldn't have signed the Genocide Convention. Stopping genocide is in the interest of the world as a whole.

Stopping the atrocities in Darfur is the job of any nation with the ability to assist. General Dallaire's book would reveal a lot of what went wrong in Rwanda, and, if you're familiar with Darfur, you can draw your own correlations. Standing by and watching people get slaughtered when you can do something about it is abhorrent. We did it then, and we're doing it again.

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And what, exactly, can the US do? How long would we stay? With whom would we work? And how would stabilizing the region be in the interest of the US? Would the $ expended be worth the cost to the taxpayers?

Stopping the Darfur tragedy is a noble goal, but a nation must operate within certain constraints, which include military strength, logistical feasibility, and cost - among others. I personally see this as an African problem that the African nations should solve. Ghaddaffi has shown that he wants a leadership role in Africa - perhaps the US should urge him to step up to the plate in Darfur. I still don't trust the SOB, but he is both there in Africa, wanting a leadership role on the continent, and has shown an eagerness to come back into the good graces of the West. Taking a leadership role in Darfur could be a good move for him. For the US - I think not.

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Nope.. no oil... so the neo-cons see no need to go there.

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Nope.. no oil... so the neo-cons see no need to go there.

They have over 500 million barrels in proven reserves. For the most part, exploration has been curtailed for the last 15 years. There's been a civil war.



Lou Dobbs showed his stripes (to me) when he railed against the Dubai ports deal.

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Stopping the atrocities in Darfur is the job of any nation with the ability to assist.

You mean like making an effort to stop the atrocities of the tyrant Sadamm Hussien?

The libs are really supporting that humanitarian effort.

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Again - make the case for why the US should go there. Why is it in the national interest to do so?

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Again - make the case for why the US should go there. Why is it in the national interest to do so?

It would be more in the national interest than going into Iraq and creating more terrorists by the minute....

Ohh and Bill Clinton got a blowjob.

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Again - make the case for why the US should go there. Why is it in the national interest to do so?

It would be more in the national interest than going into Iraq

Saying that it's better than something, which you feel was a bad idea, makes it a good idea?

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Saying that it's better than something, which you feel was a bad idea, makes it a good idea?

Stopping genocide in my book is a better idea than creating civil war. yes.

See, if the US had stuck to their war on terror and kept their main focus on Afghanistan, which is the only war that makes sense. Countries like Canada and The netherlands etc would have had enough military personel left to intervene in Darfur under a UN mandate (one with teeth, unlike Rwanda).

In stead the world is focussed on an ego, financial gains war and genocide continues on.

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Stopping the atrocities in Darfur is the job of any nation with the ability to assist.

You mean like making an effort to stop the atrocities of the tyrant Sadamm Hussien?

The libs are really supporting that humanitarian effort.

Um... I thought we went into Iraq to find the weapons of mass destruction? At least, that's what they told us when they started that whole mess.

Of course there was stuff going on in Iraq that was horrible, but we didn't obligate ourselves to go into Iraq by signing the Genocide Convention. We HAVE obligated ourselves to do what is necessary to stop the genocide in Darfur. General Dallaire is right. It's Rwanda all over again. We know there's a genocide going on, and nobody's doing anything to stop it. They're busy debating semantics while people are being slaughtered.

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Again - make the case for why the US should go there. Why is it in the national interest to do so?

It's in the national interest to go there because we signed a convention saying we would. We need to keep our word.

Stopping genocide is good for the entire world, not just the USA. After the holocaust, people said "never again!" After Rwanda, people said "never again!" Can we say it this time and actually mean it?

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Actually, one of the things I like about Lou Dobbs is he is quick to point out that NEITHER party was a workable solution to immigration, wages, etc. and has on several occasions ran polls asking whether people are moving to other parties (green, independent, etc.) due to their disgust with both parties inability/lack of concern. I am almost convinced that most of his stuff lately is blatant advertising for his book, but he raises some excellent points in the process, and does not hesitate to blast either party if they are to blame.

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And the other signatories to the treaty should...do what, exactly? I haven't read the treaty, but I'd imagine it worded so that the signatories would all support anti-genocidal efforts and not interfere with them, but not assigning the lead to any one nation.

Like Rwanda, this is not something the US should take the lead on given our current military and budgetary disposition. This is something the African nations should take on and execute, with the US taking a supporting role.

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>You mean like making an effort to stop the atrocities of the tyrant Sadamm Hussien?
>The libs are really supporting that humanitarian effort.

As the war in Iraq has closed, then re-opened Saddam's torture chambers, rape rooms and mass graves, I wouldn't crow about that too much if I were you.

Saving people by killing them isn't really what most people would consider "humanitarian."

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Again - make the case for why the US should go there. Why is it in the national interest to do so?

If we can take the time to put a cruise missile in Milosevic's bedroom or chase some guy out of his tent in Libya, I think we could at least give Sudan some pain. Let them know the world is watching with trick or treat surgical airstrikes. Remove their ability to function as a state and then (like in Kosovo) go for ground forces entirely from the air. Helping Jews escape Nazi Germany before WWII was never in our national interest either. This is a moral issue. Forget about national interests.

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