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As far as the chichenhawk label goes, are we going to give future presidents blessings for deploying troops only if they have actual combat experience?
Here's a short list of presidents who never saw combat -
Lincoln
FDR
LBJ - he (allegedly) went on a single flight
Nixon
Clinton
Bush
Anyone care to compare combat deaths during each presidency?
Here's a short list of presidents who never saw combat -
Lincoln
FDR
LBJ - he (allegedly) went on a single flight
Nixon
Clinton
Bush
Anyone care to compare combat deaths during each presidency?
QuoteI remember a time when families would instill into their children a sence of patriotism that included serving their country... So even though they were of the Patrician class.....their chilkdren served... kinda like th Royals do in England...its a family expectation.
Those who have the most to gain....should be willing to make the same kind of sacrifices for democracy.. patriotism.. apple pie and the American way.
Which group (I'm asking for generalizations) has done more to erode those traditional American values?
Amazon 7
QuoteWhich group (I'm asking for generalizations) has done more to erode those traditional American values?
Neo Cons and those same patrician class like the Bushes who expect to get rich without doing the work of building a country for all the american people.
Sending off american jobs so they can reap huge rewards in salaries in bonuses.. that has taken the american dream away from a large number of americans....
It stems from the self serving.. rather than serving America.
rushmc 23
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How about changing foreign policy so we don't piss off people in the first place?
Which people? Those that say they are going to kill us because we simply exist?
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That's not why they're mad at us. They've told us numerous times why they're mad at us. But to accept that would mean admitting that we may have had a hand in it. It's much easier to blame it on something we can't control, like cultural differences or a misinterpretation of a religion.
You are not admitting it!!
I misinterpet nothing.
Thier own books say they will kill the non believers. They don't care who or what they are. Don't follow our religion you die.
Pretty dam simple me thinks
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
QuoteIt seems that a large portion of the US citizenry is unaware of what rights they are actually guaranteed. Had they known, there would have been more people aghast at the administration.
I do not agree
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
QuoteThen what was the point?
Being disagreed with, even vehemently, is not the same as being silenced.
Wendy W.
the attempt to silence by using the PC retoric. I don't care what side you are on.
Open depbate is not encouraged with one side labeling the other with devicive names. v
Some politions use the IRS but they got that report tied up in Congress and we may never see it.......
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Zipp0 1
QuoteQuoteQuote
How about changing foreign policy so we don't piss off people in the first place?
Which people? Those that say they are going to kill us because we simply exist?
That's not why they're mad at us. They've told us numerous times why they're mad at us. But to accept that would mean admitting that we may have had a hand in it. It's much easier to blame it on something we can't control, like cultural differences or a misinterpretation of a religion.
You are not admitting it!!
I misinterpet nothing.
Thier own books say they will kill the non believers. They don't care who or what they are. Don't follow our religion you die.
Pretty dam simple me thinks
Unfortunately, it's not that simple.
They hate us due to the hypocrisy of our foreign policy. The fact that we are Saddam's buddy when it helps us, and his enemy when we get tired of him. The fact that we talk about freedom and democracy, while propping up regimes in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan(and others), neither a fine example of freedom OR democracy. They hate us because we give Israel favorable treatment in foreign policy, especially military aid grant money. The fact that we do business with countries like China, a blatant human right abuser, while continuing to shun Cuba. The fact that we are inviting the Taliban to Texas one month, and destroying them the next (we liked their anti-drug policies).
The people who hate us are not stupid, and the reasons they hate us are not simple. But go ahead and believe that if it helps you to sleep, and because Limbaugh tells you to.
Zippo
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Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.
Being disagreed with, even vehemently, is not the same as being silenced.
Wendy W.
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