No more "Mr. Nice Guy"

[kallend 2,182]

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[juanesky 0]

Interesting enough, you find that all those found practicing this "waterboarding" have been prosecuted in the US.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

[Gravitymaster 0]

I agree that waterboarding and any other aggressive interrogation technics should not be performed on the soldiers of another country when that country is a signer of the Geneva Convention and has also agreed not to do the same to US Soldiers.

I don't have a problem with using aggressive tactics on terrorist organizations who cut off the heads of our soldiers and drag their naked bodies through the streets.

[kallend 2,182]

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I agree that waterboarding and any other aggressive interrogation technics should not be performed on the soldiers of another country when that country is a signer of the Geneva Convention and has also agreed not to do the same to US Soldiers.

I don't have a problem with using aggressive tactics on terrorist organizations who cut off the heads of our soldiers and drag their naked bodies through the streets.

So it's OK to torture criminals. Nice to know where you stand.

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I agree that waterboarding and any other aggressive interrogation technics should not be performed on the soldiers of another country when that country is a signer of the Geneva Convention and has also agreed not to do the same to US Soldiers.

I don't have a problem with using aggressive tactics on terrorist organizations who cut off the heads of our soldiers and drag their naked bodies through the streets.

So it's OK to torture criminals. Nice to know where you stand.

Not what I said. Try again.

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I agree that waterboarding and any other aggressive interrogation technics should not be performed on the soldiers of another country when that country is a signer of the Geneva Convention and has also agreed not to do the same to US Soldiers.

I don't have a problem with using aggressive tactics on terrorist organizations who cut off the heads of our soldiers and drag their naked bodies through the streets.

The point we're tryng to project is that we are better than that. It's baffling when people slam the conservatives for this kind of logic, they get ofended and shrug their shoulders as if they don't understand.

[nathaniel 0]

Maybe we could use this technique on Cheney to figure out who he consults with on energy policy.

My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

[NCclimber 0]

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Maybe we could use this technique on Cheney to figure out who he consults with on energy policy.

Hopefully, they are not the same people Jimmy Carter consulted with.

[Gravitymaster 0]

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I agree that waterboarding and any other aggressive interrogation technics should not be performed on the soldiers of another country when that country is a signer of the Geneva Convention and has also agreed not to do the same to US Soldiers.

I don't have a problem with using aggressive tactics on terrorist organizations who cut off the heads of our soldiers and drag their naked bodies through the streets.

The point we're tryng to project is that we are better than that. It's baffling when people slam the conservatives for this kind of logic, they get ofended and shrug their shoulders as if they don't understand.

I fail to see the similarities between waterboarding and cutting someone's head off. It's baffling when people slam liberals with this kind of logic they get ofended (sic) and shrug their shoulders as if they don't understand.

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

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I fail to see the similarities between waterboarding and cutting someone's head off. It's baffling when people slam liberals with this kind of logic they get ofended (sic) and shrug their shoulders as if they don't understand.

Exactly it should be compared to murders and rapes.

[BillyVance 35]

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I don't have a problem with using aggressive tactics on terrorist organizations who cut off the heads of our soldiers and drag their naked bodies through the streets.

Exactly. These terrorists are not soldiers for any one nation and should not be subject to the Geneva Convention. They do not care who they hurt, maim or kill with their tactics. They are simply terrorists and should be dealt with extreme prejudice.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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They are simply terrorists and should be dealt with extreme prejudice.

So there should be no laws or rules governing conduct and the US in its sole discretion gets to decide who are terrorists? Interesting

[Samurai136 0]

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I agree that waterboarding and any other aggressive interrogation technics should not be performed on the soldiers of another country when that country is a signer of the Geneva Convention and has also agreed not to do the same to US Soldiers.

I don't have a problem with using aggressive tactics on terrorist organizations who cut off the heads of our soldiers and drag their naked bodies through the streets.

So it's OK to torture criminals. Nice to know where you stand.

It's about waterboarding for national security and world peace. geesh.

If they were criminals they would have been given due process in a formal court. Terrorists are the enemy. The enemy is always sub-human and thusly has no human-rights to be observed.

I hope I'm never viewed as a terrorist when I'm traveling abroad.

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[BillyVance 35]

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They are simply terrorists and should be dealt with extreme prejudice.

So there should be no laws or rules governing conduct and the US in its sole discretion gets to decide who are terrorists? Interesting

Doesn't the Geneva convention cover soldiers wearing uniforms and insignia for specific nations? I could be wrong, but I don't think it covers terrorists trying to create mayhem and destruction just because they hate democracy and equal rights. Of course, there are people who would argue either way.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[wmw999 2,602]

If we don't treat them like soldiers of another country, then we should treat them like criminals.

And we don't do that to criminals, either.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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but I don't think it covers terrorists trying to create mayhem and destruction just because they hate democracy and equal rights

AGAIN we get back to... who gets to DEFINE terrorists???

As it stands right now....they are using the laws they have passed to begin a VERY interesting definition...and the potential for abuse is far too great.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Doesn't the Geneva convention cover soldiers wearing uniforms and insignia for specific nations? I could be wrong, but I don't think it covers terrorists trying to create mayhem and destruction just because they hate democracy and equal rights.

Or they might be fighting cause somebody invaded their country? But that is another discussion.

I am fine with not covering them under the Geneva Convention. But then you should treat them as criminals and provide due process (and again no torturing either).

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Doesn't the Geneva convention cover soldiers wearing uniforms and insignia for specific nations? I could be wrong, but I don't think it covers terrorists trying to create mayhem and destruction just because they hate democracy and equal rights.

Or they might be fighting cause somebody invaded their country? But that is another discussion.

I am fine with not covering them under the Geneva Convention. But then you should treat them as criminals and provide due process (and again no torturing either).

You are confusing insurgents with terrorists.

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If we don't treat them like soldiers of another country, then we should treat them like criminals.

And we don't do that to criminals, either.

Wendy W.

I think we ought to treat them as scumbags who want to kill us. I think we should do whatever it takes to save American lives and if waterboarding reults in information that prevents a terrorist attack, then great. Apparently waterboarding has been effective in the case of Kalid Sheik Muhammed. Are you actually willing to sarcrifice American lives for the sake of political correctness? I'm not.

[kallend 2,182]

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If we don't treat them like soldiers of another country, then we should treat them like criminals.

And we don't do that to criminals, either.

Wendy W.

I think we ought to treat them as scumbags who want to kill us. I think we should do whatever it takes to save American lives and if waterboarding reults in information that prevents a terrorist attack, then great. Apparently waterboarding has been effective in the case of Kalid Sheik Muhammed. Are you actually willing to sarcrifice American lives for the sake of political correctness? I'm not.

Nice twist - refraining from torture is now condemned as "PC".

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[akarunway 1]

And I wonder WHY they want to kill us? I believe because of mentality like yours

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I feel it, when I sorrow most;
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[akarunway 1]

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Maybe we could use this technique on Cheney to figure out who he consults with on energy policy.

Good one Prolly USED TO BE Ken Lay and assts.

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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You are confusing insurgents with terrorists.

So, now we have four "classes":
1. those covered under the Geneva Convention
2. Criminals
3. Insurgents
4. terrorists

Who gets to decide who is which and what the rules are for each?

[dorbie 0]

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I agree that waterboarding and any other aggressive interrogation technics should not be performed on the soldiers of another country when that country is a signer of the Geneva Convention and has also agreed not to do the same to US Soldiers.

I don't have a problem with using aggressive tactics on terrorist organizations who cut off the heads of our soldiers and drag their naked bodies through the streets.

So it's OK to torture criminals. Nice to know where you stand.

It's OK to hang war criminals and illegal combatants, just so you know where I stand. That's where civilized countries have stood in major conflicts before this myopic stupor descended upon the intelligensia. A guy who robs a 7-11 is a criminal, a guy who plants bombs, kidnaps and beheads innocents, hides among civilians with weapons to attack our troops and innocent civillians is not merely a criminal, he's an illegal combatant and when caught, waterboarding should be the least of their worries.

[jcd11235 0]

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I agree that waterboarding and any other aggressive interrogation technics should not be performed on the soldiers of another country when that country is a signer of the Geneva Convention and has also agreed not to do the same to US Soldiers.

I don't have a problem with using aggressive tactics on terrorist organizations who cut off the heads of our soldiers and drag their naked bodies through the streets.

So it's OK to torture criminals. Nice to know where you stand.

Not what I said. Try again.

It was paraphrased, but was substantially the same thing you said.

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