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Bush Expresses Concern on Iraq Situation

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President Bush said today that he was “not satisfied” with the situation in Iraq and that the United States was shifting its tactics and working on a timetable with the Iraqi government that includes political measures to stem some of the violence.



The US and Iraq forces are going into Sadr City as we speak.


U.S. and Iraqi Forces Raid Stronghold of Shiite Militia


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U.S. and Iraqi forces raided the stronghold of a Shiite militia led by a radical anti-American cleric in search of a death squad leader in an operation disavowed by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.



I applaud the move. Moktada is an ignorant, violent man. And, he's being supported by Iran.
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President Bush said today that he was “not satisfied” with the situation in Iraq and that the United States was shifting its tactics and working on a timetable with the Iraqi government that includes political measures to stem some of the violence.



The US and Iraq forces are going into Sadr City as we speak.


U.S. and Iraqi Forces Raid Stronghold of Shiite Militia


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U.S. and Iraqi forces raided the stronghold of a Shiite militia led by a radical anti-American cleric in search of a death squad leader in an operation disavowed by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.



I applaud the move. Moktada is an ignorant, violent man. And, he's being supported by Iran.



So he's finally catching up with the more perceptive among us, and no longer pretending that everything is hunky-dory. I suppose that's an improvement.
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How long untill Maliki is replaced? This guy needs to push his people to the extreme and get the freaking job done. How dare this guy let things linger and allow his country to fall further from reconstrustion. The longer he allows his countrymen to do little the longer the violence will continue. How is it that Americans fresh out of highschool can be trained in a matter of months and sent to Iraq but, Iraqis cannot come close and do the job that they should be doing?

Defiant Iraqi PM Disavows Timetable
Oct 25, 11:44 AM (ET)
By SAMEER N. YACOUB
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - U.S. and Iraqi forces raided the stronghold of a Shiite militia led by a radical anti-American cleric in search of a death squad leader in an operation disavowed by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

Al-Maliki, who relies on political support from the cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, said the strike against a figure in al-Sadr's Mahdi militia in Sadr City "will not be repeated."

The defiant al-Maliki also slammed the top U.S. military and diplomatic representatives in Iraq for their Tuesday news conference at which they said his government needed to set a timetable to curb violence ravaging the country. U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad said al-Maliki had agreed.

"I affirm that this government represents the will of the people and no one has the right to impose a timetable on it," al-Maliki said at a news conference.

The prime minister dismissed U.S. talk of timelines as driven by the upcoming midterm elections in the United States. "I am positive that this is not the official policy of the American government but rather a result of the ongoing election campaign. And that does not concern us much," he said.

In Washington, President Bush sought to delineate a middle ground in terms of pressing the Iraqis to accept more of the responsibility for their own fate.

"We are making it clear that America's patience is not unlimited," he said. "We will not put more pressure on the Iraqi government than it can bear."

Tank cannons boomed out over the city five times in rapid succession Wednesday afternoon, and U.S. F-16 jet fighters screamed low overhead as the conflict in Sadr City continued into the day.

Four people were killed and 18 wounded in overnight fighting in the overwhelmingly Shiite eastern district, according to Col. Khazim Abbas, a local police commander, and Qassim al-Suwaidi, director of the area's Imam Ali Hospital.

The U.S. military said Iraqi army special forces, backed up by U.S. advisers, carried out a raid to capture a "top illegal armed group commander directing widespread death squad activity throughout eastern Baghdad," the military said.

Al-Maliki, who is commander in chief of Iraq's army, heatedly denied he knew anything about the raid.

"We will ask for clarification about what has happened in Sadr City. We will review this issue with the multinational forces so that it will not be repeated," he said. "The Iraqi government should be aware and part of any military operation. Coordination is needed between Iraqi government and multinational forces."

As the raid began, Iraqi forces were fired on and asked for U.S. airpower backup. The U.S. said it used "precision gunfire only to eliminate the enemy threat," according to the military's statement.

There was no word on casualties or whether the targeted death squad leader was captured.

U.S. and Iraqi forces have largely avoided the densely populated Sadr City slum, a grid of rutted streets and tumble-down housing that is home to 2.5 million Shiites and under the control of al-Sadr's Mahdi Army.

Reining in the Mahdi Army is one of the thorniest problems facing al-Maliki because his fragile Shiite-dominated government derives much of its power from al-Sadr and a second political power with a powerful militia, the Supreme Council for the Revolution in Iraq, or SCIRI.

Residents near Sadr City said gunfire and airstrikes began late Tuesday night and continued for hours. The district was sealed to outsiders Wednesday.

Groups of young men in black fatigues favored by the Mahdi Army were seen driving toward the area to join the fight.

Explosions and automatic weapons fire were heard above the noise of U.S. helicopters circling overhead and firing flares. Streets were empty and shops closed.

In his comments, al-Maliki also appealed to neighboring states to stop meddling in Iraq's domestic affairs - an apparent reference to Iran and Syria, which are accused by the U.S. and Iraqi officials of aiding Sunni and Shiite armed groups.

He blamed foreign fighters in groups such as al-Qaida in Iraq and loyalists of former dictator Saddam Hussein's Baath Party regime for driving the current violence that takes the lives of around 40 Iraqis every day, and possibly many more.

"I would like to state here that the root of the battle we are fighting in Iraq and the root of the bloody cycle that we are undergoing is the presence of terror organizations that have arrived in the country," al-Maliki said.

Al-Maliki has repeatedly pledged to deal with the militias but has resisted issuing firm ultimatums or deadlines.

His comments followed remarks Tuesday by Gen. George Casey, the top American commander in Iraq, and Khalilzad, who said Iraqi leaders had agreed to a timeline for achieving key political and security goals, including reining in such groups.

Khalilzad revealed neither specific deadlines for achieving those goals nor penalties for their failure to do so, and al-Maliki said no deadlines had been put to his government.

"I would like to assert that everyone knows my government is a government that came to power through the will of the people. And it is no one's business to give it timelines," he said.

As violence spiked in Baghdad and elsewhere, Casey said he would not hesitate to ask for more soldiers if he felt it necessary. He said, however, that he had not made a decision.

"Now, do we need more troops to do that? Maybe. And, as I've said all along, if we do, I will ask for the troops I need, both coalition and Iraqis," Casey said.

The timeline plan outlined by Khalilzad was believed to have grown out of recent Washington meetings at which the Bush administration sought to reshape its Iraq policy amid mounting U.S. deaths and declining domestic support for the 44-month-old war. The plan was made public a day after White House spokesman Tony Snow said the U.S. was adjusting its Iraq strategy but would not issue any ultimatums.

Khalilzad said al-Maliki had agreed to the timeline concept that called for specific deadlines to be set by year's end. U.S. officials revealed neither specific incentives for the Iraqis to implement the plan nor penalties for their failure to do so.

October has been the deadliest month this year for American forces. The military Tuesday announced the deaths of two more Marines, a sailor and a soldier. Since the start of the war, 2,801 U.S. service members have died in Iraq, according to an Associated Press count.

Also Wednesday, the military said it was continuing a search for a U.S. Army translator missing after he was believed to have been kidnapped Monday night in Baghdad. Troops had detained some suspects who "could possibly be involved," said a military spokesman, Lt. Col. Jonathan Withington.

Scattered violence continued elsewhere in the country, with six people killed when a roadside bomb destroyed their vehicle in Balad Ruz, about 40 miles northeast of Baghdad. Other mortar and bomb attacks in the area wounded several people.
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StreetScooby    5

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To me, it seems that duplicity is a requirement for any "leader" in that culture. Combine the different religions, and nothing is clear.

There are two other things also going on here, IMO:
1) The Inshallah thing
2) Thugs who kill politicians because they can.

Tough situation. Iraqis can't even bring themselves out of it.
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With the Iraqi president clearly siding with Muqtada, things are indeed starting to look grim. We should have killed Muqtada a long time ago, yet he is now the power behind the president. Plus, he's being funded by Iran. Ahck.



I think Bush's Iraq Adventure will go down as the biggest foreign policy blunder in US history. Started with a lie, failed to meet stated objectives, and reduced the country to chaos. All the while costing $bazillions and thousands of lives.
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With the Iraqi president clearly siding with Muqtada, things are indeed starting to look grim. We should have killed Muqtada a long time ago, yet he is now the power behind the president. Plus, he's being funded by Iran. Ahck.



I think Bush's Iraq Adventure will go down as the biggest foreign policy blunder in US history. Started with a lie, failed to meet stated objectives, and reduced the country to chaos. All the while costing $bazillions and thousands of lives.




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