NCclimber 0 #51 October 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe Dems seemed pretty effective in holding up judicial nominations. Is there any reason they couldn't do the same with spending bills? Filibusters are a tool that works best when used sparingly. If used often, they would very likely be eliminated, through legislation, as a viable method of challenging the majority. The minority party must choose there battles well when it comes to filibusters. A single spending bill is arguably less important than a lifetime SCOTUS appointment. While that may be true, it's irrelevant. Most, if not all of last years filibusters had nothing to do with SCOTUS nominations. The Dems make a big stink about hot button issues like Foley or the "culture of corruption" (until stories start coming out about their own indiscretions. Meanwhile, billions of pork gets quietly passed. Oh yeah... Sens. Clinton and Schummer(sp?) were selected as "Porkers of the Year" by CAGW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #52 October 28, 2006 Quote Oh yeah... Sens. Clinton and Schummer(sp?) were selected as "Porkers of the Year" by CAGW. BFD. Want to hear my choice for "Liar of the 21st Century"?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #53 October 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhat are the Democrats doing about all this? Never mind I know. Do you want the TRUTH???? They have been shut out of the process.... and that is quickly going to come back to haunt the right wing...big time. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/worst_congress_ever/page/1 Its a long read.. but what goes around.. comes around.... and that will not serve the american people very well.. just as right now it has not served us...but your boys rewrote the rules. OK I tried to read it, but it's just dripping with sarcasm. So before I went any further, I checked out the writer Mark Taibbi. http://nypress.com/18/9/news&columns/taibbi.cfm Here's a few reviews of the above article. QuoteSen. Chuck Schumer: "This is the most disgusting thing I've seen in 30 years of public life." Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton: "Pope John Paul is one of the world's strongest forces for peace and understanding at a time when discord and rancor threaten every nation. It is outrageously offensive to make light of his physical suffering, which he has borne with such strength, dignity and grace." A spokesman for Mayor Bloomberg: "As disgusting as this is, it's sadly par for the course for this publication." Rep. Anthony Weiner: "All I can tell you is that this is outrageous and the New York Press is way overpriced. Everyone has a right to free speech, but I hope New Yorkers exercise their right to take as many of these rags as they can and put them in the trash." Former Bronx Borough President Freddy Ferrer: "It's juvenile and not funny. For a lot of New Yorkers, the Pope embodies beliefs that are important to us, and we all wish him a speedy recovery." Anti-Defamation League President Abraham Foxman: "It crosses the line of decency. This is a man who has devoted his life to love and compassion and reconciliation. To treat him in such gross manner is so ugly." Polish-American Congress official Frank Milewski: "I would say it's hate speech - a most extreme example of hate speech." So sorry, I have better things to do than read 4 pages of an article written by an idiot like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #54 October 28, 2006 QuoteOH, the old "It's all your fault for not stopping me" argument. The Dems must not be seeing too much wrong with it, since they didn't filibuster the bills... of course, with Harry Reid in the mix, it probably just seemed to be "business as usual"...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #55 October 28, 2006 QuoteQuote Oh yeah... Sens. Clinton and Schummer(sp?) were selected as "Porkers of the Year" by CAGW. BFD. Want to hear my choice for "Liar of the 21st Century"?I do Bet I can guess thoI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #56 October 28, 2006 I didnt really expect you to take any of the bad republican press seriously.. but its very telling that you would use critics to attack the messenger than the message...since that is irrefutable...but then again Nothing with NOT HEARING the message of anything the far right does not want to hear ...unless it comes from approved propaganda sites. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #57 October 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteOH, the old "It's all your fault for not stopping me" argument. The Dems must not be seeing too much wrong with it, since they didn't filibuster the bills... of course, with Harry Reid in the mix, it probably just seemed to be "business as usual"... Thank you for the confirmation.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #58 October 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteOH, the old "It's all your fault for not stopping me" argument. The Dems must not be seeing too much wrong with it, since they didn't filibuster the bills... of course, with Harry Reid in the mix, it probably just seemed to be "business as usual"... Thank you for the confirmation. Nope, not a confirmation of your argument, but confirmation of the "blame game". It's more of a "oh, I don't think it's right, but I can get something out of it" - otherwise, why aren't we hearing the Dems go on about it? Where's the news conferences?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #59 October 29, 2006 QuoteI didnt really expect you to take any of the bad republican press seriously.. but its very telling that you would use critics to attack the messenger than the message...since that is irrefutable...but then again Nothing with NOT HEARING the message of anything the far right does not want to hear ...unless it comes from approved propaganda sites. I think you are being unfair. If you do a little research on Taibbi, his articles have been criticized by Dems and Repubs. I'd hardly call the people I posted who condemned the article on the Pope right-wing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #60 October 30, 2006 QuoteQuote Oh yeah... Sens. Clinton and Schummer(sp?) were selected as "Porkers of the Year" by CAGW. BFD. Government waste may not be a big deal to you, but it is to a lot of Americans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #61 October 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Oh yeah... Sens. Clinton and Schummer(sp?) were selected as "Porkers of the Year" by CAGW. BFD. Government waste may not be a big deal to you, but it is to a lot of Americans. Lying by our President may not be a big deal to you, but is is to a lot of the world's people.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #62 October 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteGovernment waste may not be a big deal to you, but it is to a lot of Americans. Lying by our President may not be a big deal to you, Redirecting with a specious claim??? My turn - Internet child predators may not be a big deal to you, but it is to a lot of Americans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #63 October 30, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteGovernment waste may not be a big deal to you, but it is to a lot of Americans. Lying by our President may not be a big deal to you, Redirecting with a specious claim??? My turn - Internet child predators may not be a big deal to you, but it is to a lot of Americans. Why did you edit out part my original to change its meaning? Not a clever debating tactic when the original is still available for all to read. The "BFD" related to being designated by some self-appointed group, as was obvious in my original. I have as much right to designate someone "the worst xxx" as anyone else does. Jus' because MTV says "Satisfaction" is the best rock song of all time, does that make it true?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #64 October 30, 2006 Perhaps you could explain why you think CAGW is lacking, instead of just going for the knee-jerk, who the hell are those guys, anyway. QuoteWhy did you edit out part my original You might consider practicing what you preach. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #65 October 30, 2006 QuotePerhaps you could explain why you think CAGW is lacking, instead of just going for the knee-jerk, who the hell are those guys, anyway. QuoteWhy did you edit out part my original You might consider practicing what you preach. BFD... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
