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Not to mention that Fox is misleading at best and lying at worst but, since you think his message is the true word you defend him and, as Coulter has correctly said, you consider him untouchable because he has an illness and we should be nice to him.

Fuck that!!
He threw himself into the political area to put forth his message. And you think because he has an illness he is hands off?? FUCK that too!!


I sincerely wish that everyone against stem cell research has a child who has alzhimers, parkinsons, or becomes paralized from the neck down. I bet we would see a huge change in public sentiment about stem cell research and force politicians to get the fuck out of the way of science and go back to ruining the country through uncontrolled spending.



How do you plan on getting Govt. out of the research decisions when you have so many people calling for increased govt. spending?

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How do you plan on getting Govt. out of the research decisions when you have so many people calling for increased govt. spending?

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I meant to say that they should not impede it. It would be nice to remove them all together and put all funds into a general fund to be distributed by importance, but of course that would have to be controlled by someone. FDA? Could be the most corrupt gov't. agency. We would have to figure something out and when it doesn't work I would end up bitching about it. This would be a good time for a good idea. Best I can come up with is: Politicians hose up 10x more things than they help. Don't allow lawyers to impede scientists. Other than that, I don't know.

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No love nor compassion for the likes of Limbaugh. He is a national disgrace.



He is a POSTER BOY for the Republican Right....and reflects them to a tee..... Its just now that he was CAUGHT doing wrong that some of them have backed away from him.. BUT.. we still have the legions of DITTOHEADS who idolize him... and wish soooooo hard to believe that all of his problems are an evil Democratic plot:S:S:S

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How do you plan on getting Govt. out of the research decisions when you have so many people calling for increased govt. spending?



On the Flip side.. how do you expect to get government out of our schools when the RIGHT is specifically targeting local school boards so they can control what dogma is taught to the young.... AND giving away billions to private schools of FAITH based dogmatic training of the young as well... where the RELIGIOUS WRONG CANT get their idiocy taught in their local public systems.:S

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How do you plan on getting Govt. out of the research decisions when you have so many people calling for increased govt. spending?



On the Flip side.. how do you expect to get government out of our schools when the RIGHT is specifically targeting local school boards so they can control what dogma is taught to the young.... AND giving away billions to private schools of FAITH based dogmatic training of the young as well... where the RELIGIOUS WRONG CANT get their idiocy taught in their local public systems.:S



You forget that I'm one of those extreme right-wing fruitcakes you rant about who actually believes in school choice.

You are either with me or against me on this issue. If you are against me, then you are uncaring and a proponent of dumbed down education that plants the seeds for forced religious dogmas and corrupt morality on innocent children.

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Or are you one of those Liberals who believes the Govt. has unlimited deep pockets? :o

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A quick look at actual data reveals that government spending and debt goes up more under "conservative" administrations. Not that facts should affect your opinions.:P



See there, as soon as I make a suggestion on how to reduce spending, you criticize it. Freekin Liberals, geez... :P

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Address the issue, where is your graphical data? Who spends more?

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Now you are just getting whiney and looking for a point to agrue.



You're right, there is no merit in discussing the present investment in two resources under comparison. It's pure barratry. Good night.



What I've learned from arguing with many people, particularly liberals, is that unless I am willing to take the most extreme position on an issue, I'm automatically uncaring and a _____(fill in blank)_______



Enough, let's address these issues empirically.

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Personally I want my tax money being spent on EDUCATING the next generation.. its our duty as a society .. period.. even if I do not have children in the school system. By educating them we end up with a better society in the long run.... not a bunch of uneducated anarchists.

BUT giving my tax money to church based... faith based education is WRONG... I do not want the government supporting ANY particular religion.

I went to parochial schools... I got a fairly good education there.. BUT it was my parents who footed the bill for that... AND they paid taxes that supported other children in the public schools.

School vouchers are very simply this administrations attempt at paying off their base... free government money to support a very specific religious minority of evangelical christians who are in lockstep with the purported ideals of this far right wing power grab of our country. The founding fathers were fairly specific about wanting to separate churches and government for a very good reason. They had witnessed firsthand the abuses that occur when the two are intermingled.

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A more accurate analogy would have one account paying 10% and the other paying .05%



How did you reach this conclusion without considering the level of investment?

Is it something you take on faith or you do have a reason to believe one vs the other?
My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

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Now you are just getting whiney and looking for a point to agrue.



You're right, there is no merit in discussing the present investment in two resources under comparison. It's pure barratry. Good night.



What I've learned from arguing with many people, particularly liberals, is that unless I am willing to take the most extreme position on an issue, I'm automatically uncaring and a _____(fill in blank)_______



Enough, let's address these issues empirically.



I have. Perhaps you missed it.

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Personally I want my tax money being spent on EDUCATING the next generation.. its our duty as a society .. period.. even if I do not have children in the school system. By educating them we end up with a better society in the long run.... not a bunch of uneducated anarchists.

BUT giving my tax money to church based... faith based education is WRONG... I do not want the government supporting ANY particular religion.

I went to parochial schools... I got a fairly good education there.. BUT it was my parents who footed the bill for that... AND they paid taxes that supported other children in the public schools.

School vouchers are very simply this administrations attempt at paying off their base... free government money to support a very specific religious minority of evangelical christians who are in lockstep with the purported ideals of this far right wing power grab of our country. The founding fathers were fairly specific about wanting to separate churches and government for a very good reason. They had witnessed firsthand the abuses that occur when the two are intermingled.



I mostly agree. I just think all govt. run education should be done away with.

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A more accurate analogy would have one account paying 10% and the other paying .05%



How did you reach this conclusion without considering the level of investment?

Is it something you take on faith or you do have a reason to believe one vs the other?



Uh, well the fact that research on adult stem cells is producing huge benefits and embryonic is producing very little in comparison would be one reason. See the chart I posted.

Let me try it another way. See if this makes sense to you:

I am looking at 2 stocks. Stock#1 has gone up 235% in the past 18 months. Stock#2 has gone up 3% in the same time period. Now, I'm not going to completely ignore the lower performing stock#2 particularly if it's in a field that I think shows the potential for future gains.

OTOH, I'm not going to pour as much money into stock#2 as I would the better performing stock#1 until I start to see some more encouraging results. I would then need to decide if I'm going to take money away from the better performing stock#1 to invest in stock#2 that is producing less results. Over time if the poorer performing stock#2 produces results, I would be more willing to gradually make a greater investment into it.

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Or are you one of those Liberals who believes the Govt. has unlimited deep pockets? :o

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A quick look at actual data reveals that government spending and debt goes up more under "conservative" administrations. Not that facts should affect your opinions.:P



See there, as soon as I make a suggestion on how to reduce spending, you criticize it. Freekin Liberals, geez... :P

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Address the issue, where is your graphical data? Who spends more?



You know, sometimes when you make a complete non-sequiter comment like this in response to an obviously innocuous statement, it's as if you are just looking for a fight.

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well the fact that research on adult stem cells is producing huge benefits and embryonic is producing very little



In what proportion to the investment in each?

Can you not tell the difference between return and rate of return?

It is fact that investment in one has been artificially restricted, to the benefit of the other.
My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

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OTOH, I'm not going to pour as much money into stock#2 as I would the better performing stock#1 until I start to see some more encouraging results.



That's called performance chasing, and it is an unsound financial strategy.

It is also an unsound strategy for research policy.
My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

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well the fact that research on adult stem cells is producing huge benefits and embryonic is producing very little



In what proportion to the investment in each?

Can you not tell the difference between return and rate of return?



Perhaps you can tell us the ROR for them.

Or are you just stirring the pot?

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Perhaps you can tell us the ROR for them.



I'm not claiming to know that one is better than the other, but seeking to learn how Mr Master seems to know.
My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

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Not to mention that Fox is misleading at best and lying at worst but, since you think his message is the true word you defend him and, as Coulter has correctly said, you consider him untouchable because he has an illness and we should be nice to him.

Fuck that!!
He threw himself into the political area to put forth his message. And you think because he has an illness he is hands off?? FUCK that too!!


I sincerely wish that everyone against stem cell research has a child who has alzhimers, parkinsons, or becomes paralized from the neck down. I bet we would see a huge change in public sentiment about stem cell research and force politicians to get the fuck out of the way of science and go back to ruining the country through uncontrolled spending.



How do you plan on getting Govt. out of the research decisions when you have so many people calling for increased govt. spending?

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We could pay for a whole lot of research with the money we've wasted bringing Iraq to the verge of a civil war, and the money we will have to spend caring for wounded veterans.
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Not to mention that Fox is misleading at best and lying at worst but, since you think his message is the true word you defend him and, as Coulter has correctly said, you consider him untouchable because he has an illness and we should be nice to him.

Fuck that!!
He threw himself into the political area to put forth his message. And you think because he has an illness he is hands off?? FUCK that too!!


I sincerely wish that everyone against stem cell research has a child who has alzhimers, parkinsons, or becomes paralized from the neck down. I bet we would see a huge change in public sentiment about stem cell research and force politicians to get the fuck out of the way of science and go back to ruining the country through uncontrolled spending.



How do you plan on getting Govt. out of the research decisions when you have so many people calling for increased govt. spending?

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We could pay for a whole lot of research with the money we've wasted bringing Iraq to the verge of a civil war, and the money we will have to spend caring for wounded veterans.



Right, getting out of Iraq is the panacea to all our problems.:S

How come we haven't solved the "war on poverty" after pumping $5 trillion into it? How come we have so many other problems that weren't solved before the war?

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well the fact that research on adult stem cells is producing huge benefits and embryonic is producing very little



In what proportion to the investment in each?

Can you not tell the difference between return and rate of return?

It is fact that investment in one has been artificially restricted, to the benefit of the other.



Thank you for your investment advice. I'll keep that in mind as I make one of the 15 to 20 trades I make daily. :ph34r:

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