Andy9o8 2 #26 October 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteDo you exclude the possiblity that life began from the lifeless primordial soup? There is evidence suggesting that that is not an unreasonable hypothesis. But not much. Oh, please. It's actually painful to hear intelligent people say that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin19 0 #27 October 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteif you ask me, and most people dont thank god. but i talk anyway for some reason. The time i spent AT college (im all online now, thank god) i met the biggest lot of dumbass peices of shit along with a huge lot of cum gargling fratwhore girls. i saw a lot of stupid shit. maybe thats why i got out. to many retards drinking. i think sports have nothing to do with it, they just get the media a lot. because all you other NON college people pay attention to college ATHLEATES a lot, for some reason. i hate sports. they all are complex games of fetch. thats it. It's a good job that you stayed long enough to hone your grammar and spelling skills. you have to CARE, and WANT to get better to hone such skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #28 October 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteDo you exclude the possiblity that life began from the lifeless primordial soup? There is evidence suggesting that that is not an unreasonable hypothesis. But not much. Oh, please. Is there really anything more than "this is the best explanation we can come up with" to support it? You know - actual evidence? Miller-Urey definitely stacked the deck and its conclusions haven't really been advanced in the last 50 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #29 October 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteDo you exclude the possiblity that life began from the lifeless primordial soup? There is evidence suggesting that that is not an unreasonable hypothesis. But not much. Oh, please. It's actually painful to hear intelligent people say that. Is there really anything more than "this is the best explanation we can come up with" to support it? You know - actual evidence? Miller-Urey definitely stacked the deck and its conclusions haven't really been advanced in the last 50 years. Oh, God, it hurts, it really hurts.... Sigh... You know what? You're right. It was the Tooth Fairy. What could I have been thinking? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #30 October 26, 2006 I didn't think you would offer anything. Earlier this year Nova ran a series titled "Origins". One of the series experts was Andrew Knoll, a professor of biology at Harvard and author of Life on a Young Planet: The First Three Billion Years of Life. Here is what he had to say: NOVA: In a nutshell, what is the process? How does life form? Knoll: The short answer is we don't really know how life originated on this planet. There have been a variety of experiments that tell us some possible roads, but we remain in substantial ignorance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #31 October 26, 2006 QuoteKnoll: The short answer is we don't really know how life originated on this planet. There have been a variety of experiments that tell us some possible roads, but we remain in substantial ignorance. And therefore, since, given our intellectual and scientific development up to this point in history, we have not yet solved the question to full certainty, we might as well postulate that it's the Tooth Fairy. Or to weasel-word it, state that we have not yet ruled out, with proven scientific certainty, the possibility that it might be the Tooth Fairy. It's enough to make one weep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #32 October 26, 2006 Some people cling tightly to their beliefs, regardless of how little evidence there is to support those beliefs. Many consider this a matter of faith. What is scary is how these people attack others who question those beliefs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #33 October 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteDo you exclude the possiblity that life began from the lifeless primordial soup? There is evidence suggesting that that is not an unreasonable hypothesis. But there's a hell of a lot more evidence that the Duke Lacrosse players are being railroaded for one man's political gain. Which has everything to do with the origins of life. QuoteSome people have a hard time admitting things that go against their way of thinking while accepting poorly supported things/concepts that align with their way of thinking. I've noticed that too, especially with right-wingers.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #34 October 26, 2006 QuoteWhich has everything to do with the origins of life. Actually it has nothing to do with the origins of life, but it does speak to how selective people can be when it comes to acknowledging supporting evidence in a given situation. QuoteQuoteSome people have a hard time admitting things that go against their way of thinking while accepting poorly supported things/concepts that align with their way of thinking. I've noticed that too, especially with right-wingers. It's natural to think the other guy has it wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #35 October 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhich has everything to do with the origins of life. Actually it has nothing to do with the origins of life, but it does speak to how selective people can be when it comes to acknowledging supporting evidence in a given situation. Care to share some supporting evidence regarding the origin of life and supernatural intervention? QuoteQuoteQuoteSome people have a hard time admitting things that go against their way of thinking while accepting poorly supported things/concepts that align with their way of thinking. I've noticed that too, especially with right-wingers. It's natural to think the other guy has it wrong. Like I said, feel free to offer up some evidence. Something besides "Clinton got a blowjob," if you don't mind.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #36 October 26, 2006 Assuming you're talking about evidence supporting how life began on this planet... there just isn't a strong case for any theory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #37 October 26, 2006 QuoteAssuming you're talking about evidence supporting how life began on this planet... there just isn't a strong case for any theory. Sigh...the pain.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #38 October 26, 2006 QuoteAssuming you're talking about evidence supporting how life began on this planet... there just isn't a strong case for any theory. Just that one includes an imaginary friend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #39 October 27, 2006 QuoteAssuming you're talking about evidence supporting how life began on this planet... there just isn't a strong case for any theory. True, but some ideas are more lacking in substantiating evidence than others.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #40 October 27, 2006 QuoteAssuming you're talking about evidence supporting how life began on this planet... there just isn't a strong case for any theory. which means they're all equally valid, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #41 October 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteAssuming you're talking about evidence supporting how life began on this planet... there just isn't a strong case for any theory. True, but some ideas are more lacking in substantiating evidence than others. Some have absolutely no evidence at all. Like ID.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #42 October 27, 2006 If being in college doesn't mean you can be stupid, does being out of college....and out of graduate school....and out of medical school eventually qualify one for being able to be stupid? I'd really like, someday to be able to sink into to my stupidity. When is it okay? linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #43 October 27, 2006 QuoteIf being in college doesn't mean you can be stupid, does being out of college....and out of graduate school....and out of medical school eventually qualify one for being able to be stupid? I'd really like, someday to be able to sink into to my stupidity. When is it okay? I think you have to be president.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #44 October 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteIf being in college doesn't mean you can be stupid, does being out of college....and out of graduate school....and out of medical school eventually qualify one for being able to be stupid? I'd really like, someday to be able to sink into to my stupidity. When is it okay? I think you have to be president. shit. I don't have that kind of ambition. Just looking for a little relief. May have to resort to masturbation....lol linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #45 October 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteAssuming you're talking about evidence supporting how life began on this planet... there just isn't a strong case for any theory. True, but some ideas are more lacking in substantiating evidence than others. Some have absolutely no evidence at all. Like ID. I love this line of thinking - My made up theory seems (to some) more probably than others, therefore mine is the only legitimate one. Stellar logic... Just stellar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #46 October 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAssuming you're talking about evidence supporting how life began on this planet... there just isn't a strong case for any theory. True, but some ideas are more lacking in substantiating evidence than others. Some have absolutely no evidence at all. Like ID. I love this line of thinking - My made up theory seems (to some) more probably than others, therefore mine is the only legitimate one. Stellar logic... Just stellar I find your reply ambiguous - which made-up theory do you refer to? I'm assuming it's ID, in which case there's no empirical evidence at all.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #47 October 27, 2006 True. The IDers tend to take (arguably) weak parts of Evolutionary theory and claim the only logical explanation is the hand of a higher power. I've never made any claims about ID. That doesn't change that there is very little hard and fast evidence that life spontaneously sprung from the primordial soup. When this is brought up, people respond with stuff like. QuoteOh, please. It's actually painful to hear intelligent people say that. or QuoteOh, God, it hurts, it really hurts.... Sigh... You know what? You're right. It was the Tooth Fairy. What could I have been thinking? Or when you provide testimony from an expert in the field, who says "we don't really know how life originated on this planet..... we remain in substantial ignorance" people interpret it to mean Quotewe have not yet solved the question to full certainty Seems like quite a stretch. As I said before, some people have a hard time admitting things that go against their way of thinking while accepting poorly supported things/concepts that align with their way of thinking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #48 June 18, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Or does it??? What a bunch of numb nuts... http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6091234 Don't confuse college athletes with college students. Different animals, in general. Not that your average college student is any better than your average college athlete. What's your take on the Duke Lacrosse Rape story? As bad as any other rape story. The 16-25 year old male, whether in college or not, does not have a great record where good judgment is concerned. So you think they are guilty of rape? Are you like the 70+ Duke Professors who publicly condemned the lacrosse team, based on nothing more than PC stereotyping? Guilty or not is a fact that I am in no position to know. I have no opinion. Yet you saw fit to make the post to stir things up. To be fair you did finally post your position but I still wonder what your motives were?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #49 June 18, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Or does it??? What a bunch of numb nuts... http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6091234 Don't confuse college athletes with college students. Different animals, in general. Not that your average college student is any better than your average college athlete. What's your take on the Duke Lacrosse Rape story? As bad as any other rape story. The 16-25 year old male, whether in college or not, does not have a great record where good judgment is concerned. So you think they are guilty of rape? Are you like the 70+ Duke Professors who publicly condemned the lacrosse team, based on nothing more than PC stereotyping? Guilty or not is a fact that I am in no position to know. I have no opinion. Yet you saw fit to make the post to stir things up. To be fair you did finally post your position but I still wonder what your motives were? To what are you referring after all this time? Whether or not college students are stupid numbnuts? Whether college athletes represent students in general? Prejudging the Duke lacrosse fiasco before the facts were available? Or the origins of life on Earth? You can be so opaque sometimes.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #50 June 19, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Or does it??? What a bunch of numb nuts... http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6091234 Don't confuse college athletes with college students. Different animals, in general. Not that your average college student is any better than your average college athlete. What's your take on the Duke Lacrosse Rape story? As bad as any other rape story. The 16-25 year old male, whether in college or not, does not have a great record where good judgment is concerned. So you think they are guilty of rape? Are you like the 70+ Duke Professors who publicly condemned the lacrosse team, based on nothing more than PC stereotyping? Guilty or not is a fact that I am in no position to know. I have no opinion. Yet you saw fit to make the post to stir things up. To be fair you did finally post your position but I still wonder what your motives were? To what are you referring after all this time? Whether or not college students are stupid numbnuts? Whether college athletes represent students in general? Prejudging the Duke lacrosse fiasco before the facts were available? Or the origins of life on Earth? You can be so opaque sometimes. Well, it seems you can always see right through everyone. Why not me?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
