akarunway 1 #1 October 14, 2006 I just hope it's the tip of the iceberg>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/13/AR2006101300169.html. Nov. 7th. coming soon. Can't waitI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livetofall 0 #2 October 14, 2006 I wonder if him and Ted Kennedy will be going to AA meetings together.www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #3 October 14, 2006 QuoteI wonder if him and Ted Kennedy will be going to AA meetings together. Me thinks 99& of congress should be going to them thare meetings. >In my best southern drawlI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #4 October 14, 2006 Ney pleads guilty to the charges... Reid says he did nothing wrong... QuoteAccording to Internal Revenue Service records, and substantiated by the Campaign Finance Analysis Project, forty of the forty-five members of the Democrat Senate Caucus took money from Jack Abramoff, his associates, and their Indian tribe clients. These recipients include: Charles Schumer ($29,550), Harry Reid ($68,941), Patty Murray ($78,991), Mary Landrieu ($28,000), John Kerry ($98,550), Ted Kennedy ($3,300), Tom Harkin ($45,750), Dick Durbin ($14,000), Barbara Boxer ($20,250), Hillary Clinton ($12,950) and Byron Dorgan ($79,300). Guess it's not soley a "Republican scandal" after all, is it?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #5 October 14, 2006 >Guess it's not soley a "Republican scandal" after all, is it? Republucans took money from Abramoff. Democrats took money from indian tribes, and from people who had associations with Abramoff. (In other words, if Abramoff met with a veteran's group, the veteran's group may have given money to a democrat.) The Abramoff scandal is a purely republican issue. Nice try though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #6 October 14, 2006 According to Internal Revenue Service records, and substantiated by the Campaign Finance Analysis Project, forty of the forty-five members of the Democrat Senate Caucus took money from Jack Abramoff, his associates, and their Indian tribe clients. Bolded for emphasis...some DID get money directly from Abramoff. I think I'll bet on the IRS knowing more about the situation...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #7 October 15, 2006 >Bolded for emphasis... I can do the same thing! I can prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that George Bush took money from Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong-Il and/or Enron during his campaign. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #8 October 15, 2006 The latest in the ongoing slow death of the GOP. Follows the usual initial denial pattern: ------------------- Report: FBI probing Weldon’s aid to daughter William Bender, Of the Times Staff 10/14/2006 . . . The report cites two anonymous sources "with specific knowledge of the existence of the investigation." They declined to be identified because it is a confidential criminal matter. Weldon’s office reacted with outrage late Friday night, denying that an investigation is under way and claiming the report is an attempt to influence the Nov. 7 election. "There is no investigation," said the congressman’s spokesman, John Tomaszewski. "There is no formal investigation and there is no inquiry. There’s nothing. This is nonsense, ludicrous." ------------------- Rep. Curt Weldon faces FBI investigation KIMBERLY HEFLING 10/14/2006 Associated Press WASHINGTON - The FBI is investigating whether Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa., used his influence to secure lobbying and consulting contracts for his daughter, two people familiar with the inquiry said Saturday. The inquiry focuses on lobbying contracts worth $1 million that Weldon's daughter, Karen Weldon, obtained from foreign clients and whether they were assisted by the congressman, they said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the confidentiality of the criminal investigation. . . . Caso, whose boss is in a tight race for re-election on Nov. 7 against Democrat Joe Sestak, tried to cast doubt on reports of the investigation. "Unidentified sources mean nothing," Caso said. "There's no substance in that story. It's a flimsy story." ------------------ May I take this opportunity of emphasizing that there is no cannibalism in the Royal Navy. Absolutely none, and when I say none, I mean there is a certain amount, more than we are prepared to admit, but all new ratings are warned that if they wake up in the morning and find toothmarks at all anywhere on their bodies, they're to tell me immediately so that I can immediately take every measure to hush the whole thing up. Monty Python's Flying Circus November 23, 1972 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #9 October 16, 2006 Quote>Bolded for emphasis... I can do the same thing! I can prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that George Bush took money from Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong-Il and/or Enron during his campaign. Look up Al 'No controlling legal authority' Gore and the Buddhist temple donations...among others. How much did Bubba Jeff get from China for those missile technology transfers, anyway? Still, looks like the IRS has proven it's not "A Republican Scandal" but a CONGRESSIONAL scandal...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #10 October 16, 2006 >Look up Al 'No controlling legal authority' Gore . . . >How much did Bubba Jeff get from China for those missile technology transfers, anyway? Why - you're right! You should vote your conscience and vote them both out of office. Heck, you should start a massive campaign to make sure they're not re-elected. >Still, looks like the IRS has proven it's not "A Republican Scandal" but a CONGRESSIONAL scandal... Nope! That's one of those prevarications that may have worked before people had easy access to a worldwide database, but doesn't work any more. Abramoff gave NO money to democrats, period - and that's easy to research and verify. The Abramoff scandal is a purely GOP scandal. And per recent polls, people understand that. Sure, you can say something like Abramoff, his clients, Indian tribes and/or democrats donated money to democrats, but most people will see through that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #11 October 16, 2006 QuoteWhy - you're right! You should vote your conscience and vote them both out of office I did. QuoteNope! That's one of those prevarications that may have worked before people had easy access to a worldwide database, but doesn't work any more. Abramoff gave NO money to democrats, period - and that's easy to research and verify. I think I'll trust the IRS over a political website, thanks...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #12 October 16, 2006 >I think I'll trust the IRS over a political website, thanks... You're not quoting the IRS. You are quoting an article by Frank Salvato, who writes for GOPUSA. The IRS shows no contributions from Abramoff to any democratic politician. So what you're really saying is you prefer GOP political websites to democratic political websites, which is fine. Choose whichever spin you prefer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #13 October 16, 2006 Quote>I think I'll trust the IRS over a political website, thanks... You're not quoting the IRS. You are quoting an article by Frank Salvato, who writes for GOPUSA. The IRS shows no contributions from Abramoff to any democratic politician. So what you're really saying is you prefer GOP political websites to democratic political websites, which is fine. Choose whichever spin you prefer. Who, evidently, has information from the IRS and CFAC about Democrat contributions by Abramoff.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #14 October 16, 2006 >Who, evidently, has information from the IRS and CFAC about >Democrat contributions by Abramoff. Ah yes, the old 'I have secret info' angle. I recall Nixon's secret plan to end the war in Vietnam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #15 October 16, 2006 Quote>Who, evidently, has information from the IRS and CFAC about >Democrat contributions by Abramoff. Ah yes, the old 'I have secret info' angle. I recall Nixon's secret plan to end the war in Vietnam. We should all remember to be skeptical of Republican secrets, they just get us into trouble: www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=386488#386488 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=408782#408782 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=863640#863640... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #16 October 17, 2006 QuoteSpeaking of the devil>http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/16/D8KPSHJ82.htmlThe latest in the ongoing slow death of the GOP. Follows the usual initial denial pattern: ------------------- Report: FBI probing Weldon’s aid to daughter William Bender, Of the Times Wldon’s office reacted with outrage late Friday night, denying that an investigation is under way and claiming the report is an attempt to influence the Nov. 7 election. "There is no investigation," said the congressman’s spokesman, John Tomaszewski. "There is no formal investigation and there is no inquiry. There’s nothing. This is nonsense, ludicrous." ------------------- Rep. Curt Weldon faces FBI investigation KIMBERLY HEFLING 10/14/2006 Associated Press WASHINGTON - The FBI is investigating whether Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa., used his influence to secure lobbying and consulting contracts for his daughter, two people familiar with the inquiry said Saturday. The inquiry focuses on lobbying contracts worth $1 million that Weldon's daughter, Karen Weldon, obtained from foreign clients and whether they were assisted by the congressman, they said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the confidentiality of the criminal investigation. . . . Caso, whose boss is in a tight race for re-election on Nov. 7 against Democrat Joe Sestak, tried to cast doubt on reports of the investigation. "Unidentified sources mean nothing," Caso said. "There's no substance in that story. It's a flimsy story." ------------------ May I take this opportunity of emphasizing that there is no cannibalism in the Royal Navy. Absolutely none, and when I say none, I mean there is a certain amount, more than we are prepared to admit, but all new ratings are warned that if they wake up in the morning and find toothmarks at all anywhere on their bodies, they're to tell me immediately so that I can immediately take every measure to hush the whole thing up. Monty Python's Flying Circus November 23, 1972I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #17 October 18, 2006 The "secret plan to end the war" part II: ---------------- CONRAD BURNS: I said we gotta win. He wants to pull out. He wants everybody to know our plan. That’s not smart. If you had a plan in order to win are you gonna tell the enemy? He’s not…the enemy’s not gonna tell us! That is absolutely unbelievable that anyone would take that approach! He says our president don’t have a plan. I think he’s got one. But he’s not gonna tell everybody in the whole world. ---------------- Can't argue with that! He has an excellent secret plan to end the war. Reminds me of a bet I once made here about how after we invaded Iraq we'd learn the "real reasons" (secret before the invasion of course) we had to invade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
