North Koreans test the nuke

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The thing about Gibraltar is all about self determination (not size).

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But neither one of those two countries would ever call themselves English.

They shouldn't have to - they're not. The old British Empire was, even centuries ago, all about multiculturalism. The English were English, the Indians were Indians, the Scotts were Scotts, Welsh Welsh, etc etc etc. The fact they had laws made by the same Parliament didn't change their national identities and there weren't any moves to do so.

As for the language thing - go to India now. Everyone speaks English. It is the de facto lingua franca. It saves a billion people from having to constantly translate between Hindi, Urdu, Tamil, Bengali, Gujarati, Nepali, Manipuri, Punjabi, etc etc etc.

Same probably went for the languages of Central and South America - over centuries the language of the ruling elite simply won out over the old variant mother tongues because it solved the communication problems which came with greater population mobility and international communications.

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But neither one of those two countries would ever call themselves English.

They shouldn't have to - they're not. The old British Empire was, even centuries ago, all about multiculturalism. The English were English, the Indians were Indians, the Scotts were Scotts, Welsh Welsh, etc etc etc. The fact they had laws made by the same Parliament didn't change their national identities and there weren't any moves to do so.

As for the language thing - go to India now. Everyone speaks English. It is the de facto lingua franca. It saves a billion people from having to constantly translate between Hindi, Urdu, Tamil, Bengali, Gujarati, Nepali, Manipuri, Punjabi, etc etc etc.

Same probably went for the languages of Central and South America - over centuries the language of the ruling elite simply won out over the old variant mother tongues because it solved the communication problems which came with greater population mobility and international communications.

I was not suggesting that they should. It gets on my nerves when I hear people who obviously did not descend from or even shortly live in Spain call themselves Spanish or Hispanic. However, the fact that so many of them do, shows that the hatred of their previous conquerers is not as deeply rooted.

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I was not suggesting that they should. It gets on my nerves when I hear people who obviously did not descend from or even shortly live in Spain call themselves Spanish or Hispanic. However, the fact that so many of them do, shows that the hatred of their previous conquerers is not as deeply rooted.

Most Mexicans I have ever met display some signs of European ancestry. Why is it that non-white lineages trump white ones?

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I was not suggesting that they should. It gets on my nerves when I hear people who obviously did not descend from or even shortly live in Spain call themselves Spanish or Hispanic. However, the fact that so many of them do, shows that the hatred of their previous conquerers is not as deeply rooted.

Most Mexicans I have ever met display some signs of European ancestry. Why is it that non-white lineages trump white ones?

I am not sure what you mean by non-white lineages trumping white ones.

Anyhow, only 9% of Mexicans descend entirely from Spain (are Hispanic not partially Hispanic or completely Aztec) and they are the well to do Mexicans that tend not to leave.

From the CIA world fact book.
Ethnic groups:
mestizo (Amerindian-Spanish) 60%, Amerindian or predominantly Amerindian 30%, white 9%, other 1%
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mx.html

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I am not getting what is funny about that. Are you suggesting that its not accurate? If so are you saying that there are more Spanish/European descendents or less? Even if you disagree with it by 5, 10 or even 20%, still the overwelming majority of the people there are either completely Aztec or mixed with Aztec and yet they would still prefer to call themselves Spanish/Hispanic than Aztec.

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Note: a large number are of Mayan descent rather than Aztec. It probably matters as much as whether they are descended from Spaniards or not. But if you're going to quibble, you might as well be thorough.

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Note: a large number are of Mayan descent rather than Aztec. It probably matters as much as whether they are descended from Spaniards or not. But if you're going to quibble, you might as well be thorough.

Wendy W.

I agree its good to get down to detail.
But lets be honest do you honestly think that Mayans and Aztec don't have more in common than Aztecs and Spanish. If you prefer, I will use the term Amerindian and include the Cherokees, Seminoles, Incas and so on.

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It was the use of CIA and Fact in the same sentence..

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>En la respuesta a su! < What the fuck is that
I told ya, two weeks in Andalucia now your speaking as funny as they do

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It gets on my nerves when I hear people who obviously did not descend from or even shortly live in Spain call themselves Spanish or Hispanic. However, the fact that so many of them do, shows that the hatred of their previous conquerers is not as deeply rooted.

You should be happy with that!!! Their inclusion raises the average IQ of Hispanics by 5.6%!!!

PROOF!!!

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It gets on my nerves when I hear people who obviously did not descend from or even shortly live in Spain call themselves Spanish or Hispanic. However, the fact that so many of them do, shows that the hatred of their previous conquerers is not as deeply rooted.

You should be happy with that!!! Their inclusion raises the average IQ of Hispanics by 5.6%!!!

PROOF!!!

Some people are so intellectually thought provoking that they deserve a response. Others are the exact opposite. Thats why there isn't much to say here.

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Some people are so intellectually thought provoking that they deserve a response.

Thank you, thank you very much...I get that a lot!!!!!

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>Some people are so intellectually thought provoking that they deserve a response.

Your response is noted.

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>Some people are so intellectually thought provoking that they deserve a response.

Your response is noted.

No you missed it, by a response, I don''t mean clicking reply, I mean actually addressing the post. But when someone is so assinine that they are posting nonsense. There should be no response to the content, as I did.

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Thanks for making my point for me

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Thanks for making my point for me

So your point was that your personal attack did nothing more than display your ignorance and therefore should be ignored. Ok atleast we agree on something.

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>did nothing more than display your ignorance . . .

Both of you - cut it out.

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So as I hear on the news today North Korea is paticularly pissed off with the interest coming from America and said that any furthur attempts to disrupt their testing program will be taken as a declaration of war

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So as I hear on the news today North Korea is paticularly pissed off with the interest coming from America and said that any furthur attempts to disrupt their testing program will be taken as a declaration of war

Yeah I heard that this morning and thought it was somewhat scary because of the possibility that a city in the U.S. could be taken out in the event of North Korea dropping a nuke on it. But its funny that he is making this threat, because imediately afterwards, we the U.S. would wipe North Korea off the map.
I am still thinking the best solution is to arm Japan and let them take care of the situation. I am sure they won't hold back.

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I am still thinking the best solution is to arm Japan and let them take care of the situation. I am sure they won't hold back.

Then in 10 years, we'd have to disarm Japan and go through all these threads all over again.

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>I am still thinking the best solution is to arm Japan . . . .

Arm the only country we have ever dropped nuclear weapons on . . . with nuclear weapons?

With the administration we have now, that would actually make a sick sort of sense.

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I am still thinking the best solution is to arm Japan and let them take care of the situation. I am sure they won't hold back.

Then in 10 years, we'd have to disarm Japan and go through all these threads all over again.

I disagree. Japan has the second highest GNP in the world, second to the U.S. They don't have it because they were lucky enough to have oil. They have freedom loving, capitalist minded people who have worked hard to get it. I just don't see them becoming a threat to us in the near future. I see them continuing as peaceful allies. I haven't researched it to confirm but I would bet that before world war 2 they weren't even in the top five GNP's.

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