billvon 3,132 #1 October 6, 2006 As far as I can tell, the respective parties have come up with a list of talking points that go something like this. DEMOCRATS: 1. Representative Mark Foley resigned after being confronted with IM's suggesting he's a pedophile. 2. We need better leadership in Washington. Did we mention Foley's a pedophile? 3. The page committee should have done a better job policing the program, to protect against issues like this, where Foley (a pedophile) took advantage of kids. 4. Foley's a pedophile. (Did we say that before?) 5. The republicans are morally corrpupt, and this is evinced by Foley (a pedophile) sending messages to teens. 6. We need a solution in Iraq, and Foley's still a pedophile. 7. It's too bad so many people are distracted by Foley when there's serious work to be done. (who, by the way, is a pedophile.) REPUBLICANS: 1. Foley is despicable and we don't defend what he did. 2. The democrats are using this to try to influence the election. 3. The democrats probably had something to do with the Foley scandal, who by the way we do NOT defend. 4. The democrats are actually much worse than Foley. But we're still not defending him! Saying someone else is worse is NOT defending him. And the dems are worse. 5. That first page wasn't underage. So it's not a crime, and those despicable dems who are calling Foley a pedophile are proving themselves to be hypocrites. But we're still not defending him, no matter what it sounds like. 6. Foley is actually better than Clinton was - even though we're still not defending him at all. 7. It's sad how many people are talking about Foley when there are serious issues to discuss. Heck, the last six points were full of people talking about Foley (who we do not defend.) Sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 October 6, 2006 I've found myself agreeing with you a lot this week, Bill. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #3 October 6, 2006 Quote I've found myself agreeing with you a lot this week, Bill. Please, don't encourage him We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #4 October 6, 2006 Republicans, continued. 8. Did we mention Clinton got a blowjob? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #5 October 6, 2006 QuoteRepublicans, continued. 8. Did we mention Clinton got a blowjob? -------------------- correction 8. Did we mention that Clinton got a blow job from a teenager and then lied about it under oath.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #6 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteRepublicans, continued. 8. Did we mention Clinton got a blowjob? -------------------- correction 8. Did we mention that Clinton got a blow job from a teenager and then lied about it under oath. a. She was 22 (not that that made it morally that much better) b. Here's how Wikipedia analyzes the "lied about the blow job under oath" claim. Apparently, he was using a definition drafted by the Independent Counsel, as modified by the Court, to only mean "intercourse". A loophole, yes, but not one he created. Quote Allegations of perjury In his deposition for the Jones lawsuit, Clinton denied having "sexual relations" with Lewinsky. Based on the evidence provided by Tripp, Starr concluded that this sworn testimony was false and perjurious. The issue was greatly confused by an unusual definition for sexual contact which excluded oral sex. This definition was ordered by the Independent Counsel's Office during the initial questioning which led to the perjury allegations. [3] During the deposition, Clinton was asked "have you ever had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky, as that term is defined in Deposition Exhibit 1, as modified by the Court." The judge ordered that Clinton be given an opportunity to review the agreed definition. Afterwards, based on the definition created by the Independent Counsel's Office, which was limited strictly to intercourse, Clinton answered "I have never had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky." Clinton later stated that he believed the agreed-upon definition of sexual relations excluded his receiving oral sex. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #7 October 6, 2006 Quote Starr concluded that this sworn testimony was false and perjurious. Ken Starr was a fundamentalist Christian lap boy. How would he be expected to come up with a functional definition of sexual relations?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #8 October 6, 2006 How quickly the thread arrived at Clinton (but it's not a record, which is the 2nd post in a thread that wasn't about Clinton).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #9 October 6, 2006 The bantering back and forth fits this song from Tool perfectly, from their latest release 10,000 Days: QuoteThe Pot Who are you to wave your finger? You musta been outta your head Eye hole deep in muddy waters You practically raised the dead Rob the grave to snow the cradle then burn the evidence down Soap box house of cards and glass so don't go tossin' your stones around. You musta been high Foot in mouth and head up ass, so watcha talking bout? Difficult to dance round this one till you pull it out, boy You musta been so high Steal, borrow, refer, save your shady inference Kangaroo done hung the jury with the innocent Now you're weeping shades of cozened indigo Got lemon juice up in your eye When you pissed all over my black kettle You musta been high Who are you to wave your finger? So full of it Eye balls deep in muddy waters fuckin hypocrite Liar, lawyer, mirror show me what's the difference? Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent Now you're weeping shades of cozened indigo Got lemon juice up in your eye When you pissed all over my black kettle You musta been... So who are you to wave your finger? Who are you to wave your fatty fingers at me? You must have been outta your mind. Weepin' shades of indigo. Liar, lawyer, mirror for ya what's the difference? Kangaroo be stoned He's guilty as the government Now you're weeping shades of cozened indigo (Musta) Got lemon juice up in your eye When you pissed all over my black kettle You musta been high Eye balls deep in muddy waters You're balls deep in muddy waters Ganja, please!! You must have been outta your mind By the way saw them in concert last Saturday, awesome show... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #10 October 6, 2006 Quote DEMOCRATS:. the favorite advice of pundits to democrats these days is not to "overplay your hand". My impression is the dems to be better listeners this time around then the repubs were in '98 - when their impechment zeal basically cost them a fair amount of seats in the elections later that year. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #11 October 6, 2006 Did anyone mention that Bill Clinton got a blow job? We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #12 October 6, 2006 hijack alert... dude, i'm very glad you got to see maynard & co.!!! they are my all time faves. but i'm also jealous... haven't seen them YET!!!!! and the pot is my favorite on the whole album. it does seem to fit doesn't it... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #13 October 6, 2006 I just saw my first negative TV campaign ad of the season, (paid for by the Democratic candidate). Funny thing was the entire ad was dedicated to explaining how close the Republican is to Dubya, and how much Dubya supports him. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #14 October 6, 2006 Jefferson slept with his slaves and fathered a number of children with them. Oh, wait, I thought this was a thread about digging up old dirt on people and their sexual indiscretions? --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #15 October 6, 2006 QuoteJefferson slept with his slaves and fathered a number of children with them. Oh, wait, I thought this was a thread about digging up old dirt on people and their sexual indiscretions? Did anyone mention that Jefferson got a blow job? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #16 October 6, 2006 QuoteThe bantering back and forth fits this song from Tool perfectly, from their latest releast 10,000 Days: Maynard is as close to the modern prophet ideal as one gets..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #17 October 6, 2006 QuoteI just saw my first negative TV campaign ad of the season Where do you live? all I see are negative ads, from all sides...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #18 October 6, 2006 I had physical therapy today and I am sore as shit. Thanks for the well-needed laugh today. BTW, that was exactly my point in the "Truth of 'State of Denial'" thread. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #19 October 7, 2006 QuoteQuoteI just saw my first negative TV campaign ad of the season Where do you live? all I see are negative ads, from all sides... The solution to that is to refrain from watching TV.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #20 October 7, 2006 > Jefferson slept with his slaves and fathered a number of children with them. Yep. But be careful, here. That particular controversy might cause some blown circuits here on Speaker's Corner. "His party was . . . wait . . .democrat-republican . . . he was a hypocrite! No, he was a victim of the evil democr. . . uh . . . . No, he was . . what the hell WAS he? Was he an evil democrat or a defensible republican? There's got to be a clear answer!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #21 October 7, 2006 Quote> Jefferson slept with his slaves and fathered a number of children with them. Yep. But be careful, here. That particular controversy might cause some blown circuits here on Speaker's Corner. "His party was . . . wait . . .democrat-republican . . . he was a hypocrite! No, he was a victim of the evil democr. . . uh . . . . No, he was . . what the hell WAS he? Was he an evil democrat or a defensible republican? There's got to be a clear answer!" There is a clear answer.......He was horny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #22 October 7, 2006 Quote How quickly the thread arrived at Clinton (but it's not a record, which is the 2nd post in a thread that wasn't about Clinton). You mean like posts about the number of war casualties, in a thread about something else entirely?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #23 October 7, 2006 QuoteQuote How quickly the thread arrived at Clinton (but it's not a record, which is the 2nd post in a thread that wasn't about Clinton). You mean like posts about the number of war casualties, in a thread about something else entirely? 24 American troops dead in the last 6 days IS current news and IS relevant to everything Bush does. Clinton is NOT.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #24 October 7, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote How quickly the thread arrived at Clinton (but it's not a record, which is the 2nd post in a thread that wasn't about Clinton). You mean like posts about the number of war casualties, in a thread about something else entirely? 24 American troops dead in the last 6 days IS current news and IS relevant to everything Bush does. Clinton is NOT. Sorry, John...doesn't work that way. You can't gripe about Clinton posts if you're spamming threads as well.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #25 October 8, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote How quickly the thread arrived at Clinton (but it's not a record, which is the 2nd post in a thread that wasn't about Clinton). You mean like posts about the number of war casualties, in a thread about something else entirely? 24 American troops dead in the last 6 days IS current news and IS relevant to everything Bush does. Clinton is NOT. Sorry, John...doesn't work that way. You can't gripe about Clinton posts if you're spamming threads as well. I can't? I just did... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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