dorbie 0 #1 October 5, 2006 This is priceless, now it turns out the guy is 21 and was over 18 when Foley sent the saucy IMs. All this verbage and 'expert opinion' over this bullshit? You gotta love the political system and media in this country...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #2 October 5, 2006 QuoteThis is priceless, now it turns out the guy is 21 and was over 18 when Foley sent the saucy IMs. All this verbage and 'expert opinion' over this bullshit? You gotta love the political system and media in this country...... Which one? I was given to believe that there were several involved. Do you have inside information?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #3 October 5, 2006 QuoteQuoteThis is priceless, now it turns out the guy is 21 and was over 18 when Foley sent the saucy IMs. All this verbage and 'expert opinion' over this bullshit? You gotta love the political system and media in this country...... Which one? I was given to believe that there were several involved. Do you have inside information? Hence I used the plural IMs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #4 October 5, 2006 >Hence I used the plural IMs. Would have been appropriate to use the plural "guys" as well. It wasn't just the one incident. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #5 October 5, 2006 Quote>Hence I used the plural IMs. Would have been appropriate to use the plural "guys" as well. It wasn't just the one incident. It's entertaining to watch the hypocrisy of the left as they go after a gay guy for sending a explicit messages to a consenting adult in response to explicit messages sent to him. If you keep it sufficiently vague you'll be able to maximize the damage to the republican "fag". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #6 October 5, 2006 >It's entertaining to watch the hypocrisy of the left as they go after a >gay guy for sending an explicit message to a consenting adult in response >to explicit messages sent to him. Are you now defending Foley? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #7 October 5, 2006 Quote>It's entertaining to watch the hypocrisy of the left as they go after a >gay guy for sending an explicit message to a consenting adult in response >to explicit messages sent to him. Are you now defending Foley? Are you suggesting that he deserves no defense? When did you stop beating your wife Bill? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #8 October 5, 2006 >Are you suggesting that he deserves no defense? ?? He has not been indicted for anything; he doesn't need a defense. I think that a DA, rather than a bunch of people on the net, should decide if he should be indicted, and for which crimes. Until then - he's resigned, so the political issue in terms of him representing his district is closed. If he _is_ indicted, then he deserves the same sort of defense as anyone else. Do you feel he needs more defending than that? >When did you stop beating your wife Bill? Never did! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #9 October 5, 2006 QuoteWhen did you stop beating your wife Bill? ROTFLMAO Sorry...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #10 October 5, 2006 QuoteNever did! ROTFLMAO again! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #11 October 5, 2006 Did he send IMs to a male who was of majority? If so, then that issue should be dropped, if there was no criminal activity. If the page (or pages) were not over 18, then yes, it's perhaps criminal activity. So. Was he over 18? Or under? Or does it not matter? And if we are to be convicted simply on sending salacious IMs, email, and text messages to others of age, then I've committed that crime quite a few times. I wasn't aware that you couldn't send dirtytalk email to people who are of majority age. (And lest I be mistaken, I am simply asking for clarification of a crime. If there was one, let him have it full force. If there wasn't one, then I think we can look at this as a witch hunt, purely politically motivated, and a sorry state of affairs but one to be expected in an election year with the election so hotly contested....) Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #12 October 5, 2006 just for a moment, let's let the democrats who are calling for so much blood look back to the case of Congressman. Stud who was merely CENSORED in the early '80's for having coercive homosexual sex w/ a 16 year old congressional page that went on for several years. And after the censure, he received THREE standing ovations from the democrats after a speech. where was their outrage then? no where. and then consider the case once again of bill clinton... where was the democrats outrage at that? i smell the upcoming election in the air... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #13 October 5, 2006 QuoteQuoteNever did! ROTFLMAO again! Is that on purpose? never did {stop} not much sleep last night ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #14 October 5, 2006 yes, he hasn't stopped hitting his wife....maybe she likes it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #15 October 5, 2006 >he hasn't stopped hitting his wife.... Not hitting, beating! Geez, be consistent at least . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #16 October 5, 2006 ahhh even better.....maybe she likes that too... I once knew a woman..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #17 October 5, 2006 Quotejust for a moment, let's let the democrats who are calling for so much blood look back to the case of Congressman. Stud who was merely CENSORED censured. Quotein the early '80's early 70's Quotefor having coercive it was consensual Quotehomosexual sex w/ a 16 year old congressional page that went on for several years. And after the censure, Attaboy. Quotehe received THREE standing ovations from the democrats after a speech. Hey, it was a great speech. Quotewhere was their outrage then? no where. Eh. It was the 70's. Quoteand then consider the case once again of bill clinton... where was the democrats outrage at that? There was plenty of it, mostly from fathers like myself - with daughters - who recognized that he was using his position to exploit someone just barely off the jailbait list. Why didn't we go more public with it? Because from Day One the Gingrich crowd was out to destroy him personally over ideology, and we weren't going to give them the aid and comfort. How's that for candor? Quotei smell the upcoming election in the air... Breathe deep, brother. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #18 October 5, 2006 QuoteThere was plenty of it, mostly from fathers like myself - with daughters - who recognized that he was using his position to exploit someone just barely off the jailbait list. Why didn't we go more public with it? Because from Day One the Gingrich crowd was out to destroy him personally over ideology, and we weren't going to give them the aid and comfort. How's that for candor? That's some GOOD candor. you betcha wonder if there's any parallels in today's world.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #19 October 5, 2006 Quotecoercive homosexual sex w/ a 16 year old congressional page that went on for several years. actual reference Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #20 October 5, 2006 So.....was he over 18 or not? Am I a criminal or not? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #21 October 5, 2006 And what is the age of consent in DC? Here it's 16....not 18. I know this is Arkansas and all, but it does make a difference.... linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #22 October 5, 2006 QuoteAnd what is the age of consent in DC? Here it's 16....not 18. I know this is Arkansas and all, but it does make a difference.... linz It seems that is depends on your party affiliation...."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #23 October 5, 2006 QuoteQuotecoercive homosexual sex w/ a 16 year old congressional page that went on for several years. actual reference Cheers, T But it isn't a crime in D.C. sending a saucy message via the internet is now though, of course that would suppose that the page was actually underage when this happened. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #24 October 5, 2006 QuoteQuoteAnd what is the age of consent in DC? Here it's 16....not 18. I know this is Arkansas and all, but it does make a difference.... linz It seems that is depends on your party affiliation.... No, it obviously doesn't. If you had to pin me down to one or the other, I'd say I'm a Democrat. But the age of consent is whatever the law says it is in a particular place. With a quick google search, it looks like it's 16 in DC. So criminal activity would not have been committed unless the children were under 16. Just seeking some clarity on that issue is all. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #25 October 5, 2006 QuoteJust seeking some clarity on that issue is all. Not sure any will be forthcoming, you know? Apparently, there was no crime, the victim of the crime wasn't underage or wasn't under the age of consent, and there's an election in a few weeks. Not sure, Linz, that any clarity will be forthcoming.... What bothers me (and it would bother me if it were either party), is when stuff like this comes out, and an immediate witch hunt goes on. This person, that person, the other person tries to make political hay, and often the truth gets lost in the whole fiasco. So what's the truth here...??? What are the facts? What are the indisputable issues we're dealing with? $90K found in someone's lasagna pan? A man having a long term relationship with a hooker and their pad is a madame's den? A man sending IMs and emails to someone who is over 18? What the fuck, over? Let's look at the degree of crime, here... Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
