Gawain 0 #101 October 4, 2006 QuoteBut his average listener isn't smart enough to know that. Really? That's a nice elitist thing to say. Pull your nose down for a moment. According to People-Press.org, of the demographic of people who listen to Rush Limbaugh, 39% are college grads (roughly the same as NPR and C-SPAN), 51% are over the age of 50 (versus 36% for NPR, 44% C-SPAN), and 48% have "High Knowledge" (versus 39% for NPR and 25% C-SPAN) -- High Knowledge meaning three knowledge questions answered correctly. QuoteNews audiences vary widely in age, education, and how much they know about what's going on in the nation and the world. Most regular consumers of news are better informed, better educated, and older than the average American. But the audiences for some news sources stand out in this respect. Judged by their answers to three news knowledge questions, the most informed audiences belong to the political magazines, Rush Limbaugh's radio show, the O'Reilly Factor, news magazines, and online news sources. Close behind are the regular audiences for NPR and the Daily Show. Audiences with the highest educational achievement, by far, are the literary magazines and online news outlets. Readers of news magazines, political magazines and business magazines, listeners of Rush Limbaugh and NPR, and viewers of the Daily Show, and C-SPAN also are much more likely than the average person to have a college degree. How, oh how will you stand it?! You fall squarely in that demographic. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #102 October 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteBut his average listener isn't smart enough to know that. Really? That's a nice elitist thing to say. Pull your nose down for a moment. According to People-Press.org, of the demographic of people who listen to Rush Limbaugh, 39% are college grads (roughly the same as NPR and C-SPAN), 51% are over the age of 50 (versus 36% for NPR, 44% C-SPAN), and 48% have "High Knowledge" (versus 39% for NPR and 25% C-SPAN) -- High Knowledge meaning three knowledge questions answered correctly. QuoteNews audiences vary widely in age, education, and how much they know about what's going on in the nation and the world. Most regular consumers of news are better informed, better educated, and older than the average American. But the audiences for some news sources stand out in this respect. Judged by their answers to three news knowledge questions, the most informed audiences belong to the political magazines, Rush Limbaugh's radio show, the O'Reilly Factor, news magazines, and online news sources. Close behind are the regular audiences for NPR and the Daily Show. Audiences with the highest educational achievement, by far, are the literary magazines and online news outlets. Readers of news magazines, political magazines and business magazines, listeners of Rush Limbaugh and NPR, and viewers of the Daily Show, and C-SPAN also are much more likely than the average person to have a college degree. How, oh how will you stand it?! You fall squarely in that demographic. So lots of stupid people get college degrees and listen to Rush and watch Jeopardy. The smart ones listen to NPR. Your point?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #103 October 4, 2006 QuoteSo lots of stupid people get college degrees and listen to Rush and watch Jeopardy. The smart ones listen to NPR. Your point? The point? It is a good thing you don't teach logic and reasoning 101. Stick to physics.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #104 October 4, 2006 >It is a good thing you don't teach logic and reasoning 101. Enough with the clever insults. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #105 October 4, 2006 QuoteSo lots of stupid people get college degrees and listen to Rush and watch Jeopardy. The smart ones listen to NPR. Your point? My point...well, maybe you taught some of those guys....you never know right? They might listen to Rush... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #106 October 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo lots of stupid people get college degrees and listen to Rush and watch Jeopardy. The smart ones listen to NPR. Your point? My point...well, maybe you taught some of those guys....you never know right? They might listen to Rush... I'm sure I have. Some people come bottom of any graduating class. We should all hope our MDs aren't among them.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #107 October 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteMy point...well, maybe you taught some of those guys....you never know right? They might listen to Rush... I'm sure I have. Some people come bottom of any graduating class. Just hope your MD wasn't one of them. Your sour, venomous perspective has blinded you completely. Even if I attempt to maintain a certain levity of a discussion, you choose simply to shit all over it. That's your prerogative. You have my pity. However, you might want to keep your asinine, derogatory remarks aimed on my humble position, as my doctors, my brothers, who saved my life are way out of your league.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #108 October 4, 2006 Kallend, enough already! Last warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #109 October 5, 2006 QuoteKallend, enough already! Last warning. edited to fix.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #110 October 5, 2006 QuoteQuoteIn Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps you can vote Dem this time so you're on the winning team. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think there are quite a few people who do that sort of thing.... which is nuts -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey, don't fight a good thing I am a firm believer in having an informed electorate. I do not like people voting for straight party lines or voting for a party based on what they heard in church.. or voting for a party based on who the percieved winner of the election is going to be. You end up with the idiocy we have in Washington now. Perhaps if people would actually listen to the issues then vote for the best candidate who most closely aligns with their own position we would have a functional government. Then there is always the fact that only about half of our people even BOTHER to vote. That right there should tell you the system does not work,. I generally agree, but the fact is that people don;t listen to teh issues and if they did, would they have the basic knowledge to understand them? Me thinks not, only 26% of the US is college educated. I voted for Dole in 96, Perot in 92 so I am not a party-liner, but now I am. Ever since 97 I realized what was going on and since things are so far right I will be party-line until they come center. Then I might be swayed the other way on some issues. I don't want a gov that far left or right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #111 October 5, 2006 Quote>It is a good thing you don't teach logic and reasoning 101. Enough with the clever insults. Yes, back to basic, overt mud slinging please .... easier to figure out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #112 October 5, 2006 QuoteYou have my pity. Gawain is REALLY Mr. T Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #113 October 5, 2006 QuoteI generally agree, but the fact is that people don;t listen to teh issues and if they did, would they have the basic knowledge to understand them? Me thinks not, only 26% of the US is college educated. Sad thing is that some just do not care. From a class I am enrolled in I swear this is the actual answer given: QuoteI agree with what you are saying. Sometimes it's just hearsay. For example, I heard that they went down a dollar for the barrel of gas. I don't have all the facts about this but the gas prices did go down. Sometimes I don't have all the facts because I am not into politics. I just vote for who my parents vote for, all the (I removed the party since it is not important to the point). The thing is there are people in both parties that vote for the people Daddy did. They even admit it. QuoteEver since 97 I realized what was going on and since things are so far right I will be party-line until they come center. Then I might be swayed the other way on some issues. I don't want a gov that far left or right. Don't you think the best answer is to vote for they person you want in office, not just a party, ALL THE TIME? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #114 October 5, 2006 QuoteMy point...well, maybe you taught some of those guys....you never know right? They might listen to Rush... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm sure I have. Some people come bottom of any graduating class. Just hope your MD wasn't one of them. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your sour, venomous perspective has blinded you completely. Even if I attempt to maintain a certain levity of a discussion, you choose simply to shit all over it. That's your prerogative. You have my pity. However, you might want to keep your asinine, derogatory remarks aimed on my humble position, as my doctors, my brothers, who saved my life are way out of your league. Max, The sad part is, I really think he truly believes this shit. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #115 October 5, 2006 QuoteQuoteI generally agree, but the fact is that people don;t listen to teh issues and if they did, would they have the basic knowledge to understand them? Me thinks not, only 26% of the US is college educated. Sad thing is that some just do not care. From a class I am enrolled in I swear this is the actual answer given: QuoteI agree with what you are saying. Sometimes it's just hearsay. For example, I heard that they went down a dollar for the barrel of gas. I don't have all the facts about this but the gas prices did go down. Sometimes I don't have all the facts because I am not into politics. I just vote for who my parents vote for, all the (I removed the party since it is not important to the point). The thing is there are people in both parties that vote for the people Daddy did. They even admit it. QuoteEver since 97 I realized what was going on and since things are so far right I will be party-line until they come center. Then I might be swayed the other way on some issues. I don't want a gov that far left or right. Don't you think the best answer is to vote for they person you want in office, not just a party, ALL THE TIME? QuoteThe thing is there are people in both parties that vote for the people Daddy did. They even admit it. This is more the norm than the exception. I have a theory that most kids are a religious/political product of their parents. I find this especially true with religion. QuoteDon't you think the best answer is to vote for they person you want in office, not just a party, ALL THE TIME? Not in times of emergency. Look at this country since 1980 with Ragan, we are in a fiscal emergency, not to mention healthcare and others. If times are status quo, yes, vote for the candidate, but we have the SCOTUS, federal courts, Congress, White House and mnay other smaller divisions packed with conservtaives; this is not the design of this country and it has been going down the shitter. I would expect the same of Dems had all the offices. We might have high taxes, too many social programs and this kind of thing. Although I would prefer that than mass conservatism, but I would really prefer moderation. So this is why only right now that I think being a blind partisan is a good idea. I helped vote all these kooky Republicans inot Congress in 92 or 94, whenever it was they took over by storm. I would have voted for Bush 1 against Clinton, didn't like either, looked for a change and voted Perot, so I'm not usually a partisan voter. Furthermore, who is being put forward by the Repubs, McCain the warmonger, who else???? Even if I voted person I would have to pass on what I've seen from the right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #116 October 5, 2006 I believe in him. He is a fart smeller.... I mean a smart feller. Kallend I believe we are referring to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #117 October 5, 2006 QuoteThis is more the norm than the exception. I have a theory that most kids are a religious/political product of their parents. I find this especially true with religion. Agreed, quite a shame. QuoteIf times are status quo, I see us as being in the status quo right now, and your reaction as normal and maybe healthy. The pendulum swings left, then right, then back and forth. It is one "emergency" after another and one reason it swings so hard is people instead of voting for the canidate they like, try to "balance it". The system we have was not designed to be used that way. That is of course, just my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #118 October 5, 2006 QuoteQuoteThis is more the norm than the exception. I have a theory that most kids are a religious/political product of their parents. I find this especially true with religion. Agreed, quite a shame. QuoteIf times are status quo, I see us as being in the status quo right now, and your reaction as normal and maybe healthy. The pendulum swings left, then right, then back and forth. It is one "emergency" after another and one reason it swings so hard is people instead of voting for the canidate they like, try to "balance it". The system we have was not designed to be used that way. That is of course, just my opinion. Woaw!!! How are we status quo? Phone tapping, wars against countries that didn;t provoke us, skyrocketing debt that IS the product of the Reagan, Bush, Bush admins, world hate at high levels, healthcare being a thing of the past for the masses, rewriting the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act, I could go on for hours.... These time are unprecedented. We do have all offices packed with conservtaives, so if that's what you like then it isn't status quo, but nirvana. OBJECTIVELY, when a country has been run primarily by 1 side for the better part of 26 years, there is no moderation and I can find example after another to support that; can you demonstrate how we are status quo? Point out the leftward swings of the penduluum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #119 October 5, 2006 QuoteI believe in him. He is a fart smeller.... I mean a smart feller. Kallend I believe we are referring to. Well, good for you.Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #120 October 5, 2006 Quote Don't you think the best answer is to vote for they person you want in office, not just a party, ALL THE TIME? They never make it on the ballot. If you don't either have an incumbency, legacy program or a truckload of cash to launch from then you don't stand a chance. Even a Diebold voting machine can't make the difference if you can't get through the primary. It may have been true at one time that "anyone can grow up to be president" but not anymore. So that basically leaves us with a bad choice and a worse choice. Anyone else think we should use the second amendment for its intended purpose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #121 October 5, 2006 QuoteQuoteYou have my pity. Gawain is REALLY Mr. T Do you know what Gawain has gone through in the last couple? I'd give the prof the benefit of the doubt (he accidently/inadvertantly hit a nerve with an unintentional flip comment) if he'd have edited his comment AND apologized. I'm not sure now. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #122 October 5, 2006 QuoteQuote Don't you think the best answer is to vote for they person you want in office, not just a party, ALL THE TIME? They never make it on the ballot. If you don't either have an incumbency, legacy program or a truckload of cash to launch from then you don't stand a chance. Even a Diebold voting machine can't make the difference if you can't get through the primary. It may have been true at one time that "anyone can grow up to be president" but not anymore. So that basically leaves us with a bad choice and a worse choice. That's true to an extent, but it also proves that despite the perception of a "cush" life, the people that work their way to earn an election to a national office, work really long hard hours to do so. A lot of people can earn a far more lucrative living with considerably less effort. The money that gets thrown around is mostly not one individual's money, and with the 527s out there, candidates have even less control to an extent.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #123 October 5, 2006 QuoteWoaw!!! How are we status quo? We are getting ready to swing left again. The constant swinging left and right IS the status quo. People like you get sick of the people in power and vote to get rid of them. Then the country swings the other way. Then people get sick of those people and vote to get rid of THEM as well. QuoteThese time are unprecedented. I hear that every few years. QuoteOBJECTIVELY, when a country has been run primarily by 1 side for the better part of 26 years, there is no moderation and I can find example after another to support that; can you demonstrate how we are status quo? See above. QuotePoint out the leftward swings of the penduluum. Sure care to wait till Nov, then wait another two years? TO point out the shift left, all I have to do is point to your post about how you are going to vote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #124 October 5, 2006 QuoteThey never make it on the ballot. If you don't either have an incumbency, legacy program or a truckload of cash to launch from then you don't stand a chance. Yes, but this happens with both sides. So you fight to get the right people on the ballet, and then choose based on the two that are in front of you to pick. QuoteEven a Diebold voting machine can't make the difference if you can't get through the primary. Nor the votes for one candidate from people who are dead....So lets just say both sides do stupid shit. QuoteSo that basically leaves us with a bad choice and a worse choice. So you would choose the worse choice due to their party alone? You are allowed to vote anyway you wish....Heck sell your vote on Ebay if you want. But I think that may not be the best way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #125 October 5, 2006 Quote QuoteSo that basically leaves us with a bad choice and a worse choice. So you would choose the worse choice due to their party alone? You are allowed to vote anyway you wish....Heck sell your vote on Ebay if you want. But I think that may not be the best way. No, I end up choosing the "bad choice" A good example is the senate race in my state. I have a choice between a Bush clone, environmental anti christ, good old boy networking bigot Republican or an ex Reagan Republican now Democrat candidate. The race is so tight, even though the incumbent has a huge $war chest, that I can't afford to NOT vote for the lesser of the 2 weevils. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 5 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
rehmwa 2 #121 October 5, 2006 QuoteQuoteYou have my pity. Gawain is REALLY Mr. T Do you know what Gawain has gone through in the last couple? I'd give the prof the benefit of the doubt (he accidently/inadvertantly hit a nerve with an unintentional flip comment) if he'd have edited his comment AND apologized. I'm not sure now. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #122 October 5, 2006 QuoteQuote Don't you think the best answer is to vote for they person you want in office, not just a party, ALL THE TIME? They never make it on the ballot. If you don't either have an incumbency, legacy program or a truckload of cash to launch from then you don't stand a chance. Even a Diebold voting machine can't make the difference if you can't get through the primary. It may have been true at one time that "anyone can grow up to be president" but not anymore. So that basically leaves us with a bad choice and a worse choice. That's true to an extent, but it also proves that despite the perception of a "cush" life, the people that work their way to earn an election to a national office, work really long hard hours to do so. A lot of people can earn a far more lucrative living with considerably less effort. The money that gets thrown around is mostly not one individual's money, and with the 527s out there, candidates have even less control to an extent.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #123 October 5, 2006 QuoteWoaw!!! How are we status quo? We are getting ready to swing left again. The constant swinging left and right IS the status quo. People like you get sick of the people in power and vote to get rid of them. Then the country swings the other way. Then people get sick of those people and vote to get rid of THEM as well. QuoteThese time are unprecedented. I hear that every few years. QuoteOBJECTIVELY, when a country has been run primarily by 1 side for the better part of 26 years, there is no moderation and I can find example after another to support that; can you demonstrate how we are status quo? See above. QuotePoint out the leftward swings of the penduluum. Sure care to wait till Nov, then wait another two years? TO point out the shift left, all I have to do is point to your post about how you are going to vote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #124 October 5, 2006 QuoteThey never make it on the ballot. If you don't either have an incumbency, legacy program or a truckload of cash to launch from then you don't stand a chance. Yes, but this happens with both sides. So you fight to get the right people on the ballet, and then choose based on the two that are in front of you to pick. QuoteEven a Diebold voting machine can't make the difference if you can't get through the primary. Nor the votes for one candidate from people who are dead....So lets just say both sides do stupid shit. QuoteSo that basically leaves us with a bad choice and a worse choice. So you would choose the worse choice due to their party alone? You are allowed to vote anyway you wish....Heck sell your vote on Ebay if you want. But I think that may not be the best way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #125 October 5, 2006 Quote QuoteSo that basically leaves us with a bad choice and a worse choice. So you would choose the worse choice due to their party alone? You are allowed to vote anyway you wish....Heck sell your vote on Ebay if you want. But I think that may not be the best way. No, I end up choosing the "bad choice" A good example is the senate race in my state. I have a choice between a Bush clone, environmental anti christ, good old boy networking bigot Republican or an ex Reagan Republican now Democrat candidate. The race is so tight, even though the incumbent has a huge $war chest, that I can't afford to NOT vote for the lesser of the 2 weevils. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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