sundevil777 102 #1 October 3, 2006 So, now John Murtha is shown saying that he doesn't want any of the $50,000 bribe, yet. "After we do business for a while, maybe then, if you know what I mean" I'm pretty sure that is exactly what he said, among other things that indicated he was reluctant to be bribed, yet, by an arab shiek wanting a law passed in his favor. John is selective about who he takes bribes from, he wants to "do business" for a while first. Some will complain about the timing of this. I say politics is nasty business, I don't expect either side to be nice. However, dems have pulled lies out of their ass much closer to elections (CBS forged documents in '04). At least this is Murtha in his own words. No laws broken, but it sure is unethical. The dem leadership isn't likely to be asking for his resignation though, he's a member of the party of lower expectations.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 October 3, 2006 QuoteNo laws broken, but it sure is unethical. The dem leadership isn't likely to be asking for his resignation though, he's a member of the party of lower expectations. Well, of course! I can't remember the guys name, a Democratic Congressman in 1996, admitted to a sexual relationship with a 17 year old page. He refused to resign. So, there shouldn't be a claim of precedent on either side. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #3 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteNo laws broken, but it sure is unethical. The dem leadership isn't likely to be asking for his resignation though, he's a member of the party of lower expectations. Well, of course! I can't remember the guys name, a Democratic Congressman in 1996, admitted to a sexual relationship with a 17 year old page. He refused to resign. So, there shouldn't be a claim of precedent on either side. Quote Fascinating to watch the right wiggle and squirm and try to deflect attention from the hypocrite in their ranks. Mark Foley sponsored at least 15 bills aimed at protecting young people from harm.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #4 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNo laws broken, but it sure is unethical. The dem leadership isn't likely to be asking for his resignation though, he's a member of the party of lower expectations. Well, of course! I can't remember the guys name, a Democratic Congressman in 1996, admitted to a sexual relationship with a 17 year old page. He refused to resign. So, there shouldn't be a claim of precedent on either side. Quote Fascinating to watch the right wiggle and squirm and try to deflect attention from the hypocrite in their ranks. Mark Foley sponsored at least 15 bills aimed at protecting young people from harm. Back on topic, John Murtha is a corrupt scumbag! What fucking bullshit. Earlier you claimed a deflection of blame. Now you claim deflection of attention. There was no waffling on what should be the outcome, he was to resign. Then dems get all worked up over emails that even newspapers found not to be newsworthy. Sure, a hypocrite was in their ranks. Who is trying to deny that? It doesn't surprise me that he sponsored the child protection bills. Some psychologist would probably say he knew he was a predator and wanted to stop himself - typical, sick, mind of the criminal shit...wanting to get caught...People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #5 October 3, 2006 Their ranks? Mark Foley is no longer a member of Congress. This Murtha/Abscam business is new to me. I wonder why the House didn't take some kind of action against him back in 1980. It seems like everyone in Congress has a "go along to get along" mentality... and no one is going to expose your dirty laundry unless you really screw up (like Foley) or you really stick it to the power structure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #6 October 3, 2006 QuoteFascinating to watch the right wiggle and squirm and try to deflect attention from the hypocrite in their ranks. Mark Foley sponsored at least 15 bills aimed at protecting young people from harm. I'm not defending Foley. It was right that he resigned, and it is right, from my perspective, that the Feds investigate deeply into his conduct, and whether that translated into any "action" that is against the law. Did Senator Murtha break the law? It doesn't appear so, despite the ulterior motive. Did Foley break the law? Transmitting suggestive comments across the Internet, and thus state lines, to my knowledge, is not against the law. Did he ever solicit sex in that same manner? That is definitely against the law. Either way, Foley, on the face of it, clearly has ulterior motives. I'm equally peeved that the leadership may have ignored this issue -- I don't understand how there could be any perception of an apparent benefit for anyone by doing so. And again I state, simply, there is no genuine claim of precedent for either side.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #7 October 3, 2006 QuoteThis Murtha/Abscam business is new to me. I wonder why the House didn't take some kind of action against him back in 1980. He didn't take the money (he was going to wait a while and see, until they had done some 'business together'). That, and he agreed to testify against other members. ABSCAM was a huge scandal.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. 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sundevil777 102 #4 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNo laws broken, but it sure is unethical. The dem leadership isn't likely to be asking for his resignation though, he's a member of the party of lower expectations. Well, of course! I can't remember the guys name, a Democratic Congressman in 1996, admitted to a sexual relationship with a 17 year old page. He refused to resign. So, there shouldn't be a claim of precedent on either side. Quote Fascinating to watch the right wiggle and squirm and try to deflect attention from the hypocrite in their ranks. Mark Foley sponsored at least 15 bills aimed at protecting young people from harm. Back on topic, John Murtha is a corrupt scumbag! What fucking bullshit. Earlier you claimed a deflection of blame. Now you claim deflection of attention. There was no waffling on what should be the outcome, he was to resign. Then dems get all worked up over emails that even newspapers found not to be newsworthy. Sure, a hypocrite was in their ranks. Who is trying to deny that? It doesn't surprise me that he sponsored the child protection bills. Some psychologist would probably say he knew he was a predator and wanted to stop himself - typical, sick, mind of the criminal shit...wanting to get caught...People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #5 October 3, 2006 Their ranks? Mark Foley is no longer a member of Congress. This Murtha/Abscam business is new to me. I wonder why the House didn't take some kind of action against him back in 1980. It seems like everyone in Congress has a "go along to get along" mentality... and no one is going to expose your dirty laundry unless you really screw up (like Foley) or you really stick it to the power structure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #6 October 3, 2006 QuoteFascinating to watch the right wiggle and squirm and try to deflect attention from the hypocrite in their ranks. Mark Foley sponsored at least 15 bills aimed at protecting young people from harm. I'm not defending Foley. It was right that he resigned, and it is right, from my perspective, that the Feds investigate deeply into his conduct, and whether that translated into any "action" that is against the law. Did Senator Murtha break the law? It doesn't appear so, despite the ulterior motive. Did Foley break the law? Transmitting suggestive comments across the Internet, and thus state lines, to my knowledge, is not against the law. Did he ever solicit sex in that same manner? That is definitely against the law. Either way, Foley, on the face of it, clearly has ulterior motives. I'm equally peeved that the leadership may have ignored this issue -- I don't understand how there could be any perception of an apparent benefit for anyone by doing so. And again I state, simply, there is no genuine claim of precedent for either side.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #7 October 3, 2006 QuoteThis Murtha/Abscam business is new to me. I wonder why the House didn't take some kind of action against him back in 1980. He didn't take the money (he was going to wait a while and see, until they had done some 'business together'). That, and he agreed to testify against other members. ABSCAM was a huge scandal.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
NCclimber 0 #5 October 3, 2006 Their ranks? Mark Foley is no longer a member of Congress. This Murtha/Abscam business is new to me. I wonder why the House didn't take some kind of action against him back in 1980. It seems like everyone in Congress has a "go along to get along" mentality... and no one is going to expose your dirty laundry unless you really screw up (like Foley) or you really stick it to the power structure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #6 October 3, 2006 QuoteFascinating to watch the right wiggle and squirm and try to deflect attention from the hypocrite in their ranks. Mark Foley sponsored at least 15 bills aimed at protecting young people from harm. I'm not defending Foley. It was right that he resigned, and it is right, from my perspective, that the Feds investigate deeply into his conduct, and whether that translated into any "action" that is against the law. Did Senator Murtha break the law? It doesn't appear so, despite the ulterior motive. Did Foley break the law? Transmitting suggestive comments across the Internet, and thus state lines, to my knowledge, is not against the law. Did he ever solicit sex in that same manner? That is definitely against the law. Either way, Foley, on the face of it, clearly has ulterior motives. I'm equally peeved that the leadership may have ignored this issue -- I don't understand how there could be any perception of an apparent benefit for anyone by doing so. And again I state, simply, there is no genuine claim of precedent for either side.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #7 October 3, 2006 QuoteThis Murtha/Abscam business is new to me. I wonder why the House didn't take some kind of action against him back in 1980. He didn't take the money (he was going to wait a while and see, until they had done some 'business together'). That, and he agreed to testify against other members. ABSCAM was a huge scandal.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
