Lucky... 0 #151 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteName the papers. I'll gove you a start: 1) Christian Science Monitor (just a guess) Seriously, which papers? Post article. My memory is not what it used to be, but I remember one as the Miami Herald, can't remember the other two, they were similar "some city - tribune whatever", but not the Christian Science Monitor. Research it, your assertion, love to read it. Furthermore, this issue is new, so even if they wrote that, new info may have surfaced since. I just watched Tim Russert explain the entire deal and according to him, a parent came forward to the Hassert staff and complained about an email. Hassert denied knwoing of it. Then a year later someone came forward to some Republican Congressional committee (can't thinkof what he called it), and it was ignored. Enough people knew of it, but as Russert said, this was 4 years ago during the last midterm elections and they didn't want to expose it for obvious reasons. Truth likely is, many Repubs and Dems knew of this, the Repubs kept putting it off due to never wanting to deal with it, the Dems waited to drop it. Either way, I think it stings much more harshly since the party of moral reform is the culprit here. This is one reason I switched parties. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #152 October 3, 2006 QuoteFoley is a scumbag. Everyone agrees. End of thread, then. No need to discuss any further. Yes, these are teh hopes of the right and if it was a lefty issue, the same kind of thing applies, but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #153 October 3, 2006 It is more like lefties love to keep on beating a dead horse it seems."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #154 October 3, 2006 QuoteNo smokescreen. None needed. The repub leadership could not have been more harsh with him. The smokescreen is more like with Hassert and the rest of the Repubs. There IS a major smokescreen going on here, or you (repubs) wouldn't object to taking about it. QuoteIf the dems had not assumed that the repubs knew of the later IMs previously, if they had not rushed to call for resignations before they knew what was going on, if they had not gleefully tried to score political points where none should be scored, then we wouldn't be having this cyber argument. If the Dems.... well, you know, If the Dems.... Hey, If the Dems.... Don't worry about us, worry about your own party. Oh, I see you are, you're fighting this issue from teh stance that you don;t defend yourself, but try to defry the other side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #155 October 3, 2006 Quote but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. As long as it's a Dem being investigated, sure ... if it's the Repubs, everyone that heard, may have heard, or been rumored to be from the same town as someone who heard should resign....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #156 October 3, 2006 Make sure and keep a towel handy for yourself. Drool is so unbecoming"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #157 October 3, 2006 QuoteLooks more likely that you still have issue grasping the fact that no one is dilluting anything about Foley. Everyone is agreeing with him resigning, and being under ivestigation. Now is this loud and clear enough for u? And about the teenager, I would think he is more likely to hate the republican party. Or grow up to be a ted kennedy. How about we discover who knew about this and who didn't? Oh, that's where you don't want to go, I see. You want to move on, but I gess you savored teh Clinton Impeachment. QuoteAnd about the teenager, I would think he is more likely to hate the republican party. Or grow up to be a ted kennedy. A drunk? Maybe he grows up gay, maybe a predator, maybe he willbe unaffected. Either way, this is not a good thing and might have a human cost later on. But more smokescreen and deference of blame to teh Dems withthe Kennedy remark. Truth is, I doubt you give a rat's as about the kid, just the Rep Party and their stronghold on teh country. Sorry, there's been an awakening of the country and you will lose seats if not control of Congress. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #158 October 3, 2006 QuoteIt is more like lefties love to keep on beating a dead horse it seems. We want to know who helped kill the horse. Political gain? You betcha. And the right wants to bury an alive horse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #159 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuote but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. As long as it's a Dem being investigated, sure ... if it's the Repubs, everyone that heard, may have heard, or been rumored to be from the same town as someone who heard should resign.... Exactly, the Dems get nailed, they'll talk about it. The right gets nailed, let's jail everyone who talks about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #160 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteFoley is a scumbag. Everyone agrees. End of thread, then. No need to discuss any further. Yes, these are teh hopes of the right and if it was a lefty issue, the same kind of thing applies, but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. I was responding to you saying th issue was Foley and what the Dems have done in the past was nothing but a smokescreen. OTOH, you seem perfectly willing to try and make this an issue of the Rep. Party in general, while wanting to ignore the failings of individuals within your party. Can't have it both ways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #161 October 3, 2006 You seem to forget that usually a sex predator under the same shoes of Foley, would act alone. Do you think he will go to his buddies and ask them for advice? You fail to set the same standards to the dems you adore, and make no comment about howStudds was allowed to stay in seat. None, just trying to find more guilty parties on something that Foley did on his own..."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #162 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. As long as it's a Dem being investigated, sure ... if it's the Repubs, everyone that heard, may have heard, or been rumored to be from the same town as someone who heard should resign.... Exactly, the Dems get nailed, they'll talk about it. The right gets nailed, let's jail everyone who talks about it. Bwahahaha..dude, you're hysterical!!!! Neither party wants to talk about anything that could keep them out of power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #163 October 3, 2006 >Selective moral outrage. >Studds . . . You are outraged - outraged! - by how selective democrats are in not criticizing their own. Yet in the VERY SAME POST you complain about what Stubbs did and ignore what Crane did, even though the censures happened at the same time and the scandal involved both men. How can this be? Perhaps Crane didn't commit the same crime Stubbs did? Hmm, nope, both victims were underage. Perhaps Crane wasn't an elected leader . . . nope, he was a representative as well. Ah, I know. Crane was a republican, and therefore you will be selective in your outrage. Both sides commit these sort of crimes. They have in the past, they will again. It's sad and should never be tolerated, but it happens. Foley recently committed such crimes; he's the one we're talking about now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #164 October 3, 2006 Quote>You are outraged - outraged! - by how selective democrats are in not criticizing their own. Makes sense, if you only listen to the talking points of your own party, you don't hear about "their own". It only takes a biased press or a self biased list of information sources. So no surprise that hard core dems don't even realize their own party's perverts (take Lucky's posts are proof). Ditto for the Republicans. I suspect your average "joe" from either party would have a consistent position about any pervert in congress. But, the more 'politically active' "joe" will never get or allowed himself to get the full picture. The favoritism most of us are talking about are the 535+ good ol boys in their big club. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #165 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. As long as it's a Dem being investigated, sure ... if it's the Repubs, everyone that heard, may have heard, or been rumored to be from the same town as someone who heard should resign.... Exactly, the Dems get nailed, they'll talk about it. The right gets nailed, let's jail everyone who talks about it. Righttttttttttttttttt..... which is why Foley resigned, and Studds got an ovation from his Dem buddies for NOT resigning... and went on to be re-elected 6 more times before retiring...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #166 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteFoley is a scumbag. Everyone agrees. End of thread, then. No need to discuss any further. Yes, these are teh hopes of the right and if it was a lefty issue, the same kind of thing applies, but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. I was responding to you saying th issue was Foley and what the Dems have done in the past was nothing but a smokescreen. OTOH, you seem perfectly willing to try and make this an issue of the Rep. Party in general, while wanting to ignore the failings of individuals within your party. Can't have it both ways. If it indicts the Rep Party, that's due to them A) Having knowledge B) Doing nothing C) Being the moderators of morality So if I've brought the Rep Party in, these are the reasons. The left is comprised of people saying, "live and let live" while the right is rigid and confining, so when they do shit like this they will be indicted. If the left or a member of it did something very constraing, they would be indicted as a whole. I guess Leiberman is a sort of example of that, but outed frok the party. Prolly not a good example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #167 October 3, 2006 QuoteYou seem to forget that usually a sex predator under the same shoes of Foley, would act alone. Do you think he will go to his buddies and ask them for advice? You fail to set the same standards to the dems you adore, and make no comment about howStudds was allowed to stay in seat. None, just trying to find more guilty parties on something that Foley did on his own... He did act alone and a parent came forward. So this has zero to do with acting alone or with company. And did you hear what FDR did? You bring up history to set the standards for your own party. Again, just a deference of guilt. Sorry, you guys get to eat this shit sandwich all alone BTW, the Reps have chosen another guy to stand in, yet Foley'sname will be on the ballot late in the game as we are. That sucks for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #168 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. As long as it's a Dem being investigated, sure ... if it's the Repubs, everyone that heard, may have heard, or been rumored to be from the same town as someone who heard should resign.... Exactly, the Dems get nailed, they'll talk about it. The right gets nailed, let's jail everyone who talks about it. Bwahahaha..dude, you're hysterical!!!! Neither party wants to talk about anything that could keep them out of power. Sure, difference is that I am willing to talk, meaning my party has nothng to be embarrased about and my party is on the way up. Buh-bye, enjoy it down there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #169 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuote>You are outraged - outraged! - by how selective democrats are in not criticizing their own. Makes sense, if you only listen to the talking points of your own party, you don't hear about "their own". It only takes a biased press or a self biased list of information sources. So no surprise that hard core dems don't even realize their own party's perverts (take Lucky's posts are proof). Ditto for the Republicans. I suspect your average "joe" from either party would have a consistent position about any pervert in congress. But, the more 'politically active' "joe" will never get or allowed himself to get the full picture. The favoritism most of us are talking about are the 535+ good ol boys in their big club. QuoteSo no surprise that hard core dems don't even realize their own party's perverts (take Lucky's posts are proof). No, if you read back I wrote that there were likely threads about thise people. Thsi thread is entitled, "Foley." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #170 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. As long as it's a Dem being investigated, sure ... if it's the Repubs, everyone that heard, may have heard, or been rumored to be from the same town as someone who heard should resign.... Exactly, the Dems get nailed, they'll talk about it. The right gets nailed, let's jail everyone who talks about it. Righttttttttttttttttt..... which is why Foley resigned, and Studds got an ovation from his Dem buddies for NOT resigning... and went on to be re-elected 6 more times before retiring... How is that in reply to this: Exactly, the Dems get nailed, they'll talk about it. The right gets nailed, let's jail everyone who talks about it. My statement has nothing to do with who resigned. I was talking about the protocol of each party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #171 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteFoley is a scumbag. Everyone agrees. End of thread, then. No need to discuss any further. Yes, these are teh hopes of the right and if it was a lefty issue, the same kind of thing applies, but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. I was responding to you saying th issue was Foley and what the Dems have done in the past was nothing but a smokescreen. OTOH, you seem perfectly willing to try and make this an issue of the Rep. Party in general, while wanting to ignore the failings of individuals within your party. Can't have it both ways. QuoteIf it indicts the Rep Party, that's due to them A) Having knowledge B) Doing nothing C) Being the moderators of morality That's where we disagree. It doesn't indict the Party anymore than the transgressions of William Jefferson, Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd etc indict the Dems unless they hush it up which they most certainly do. Nobody in the Rep. Party is defending Foley. We all think he's a scumbag best I can tell. QuoteSo if I've brought the Rep Party in, these are the reasons. The left is comprised of people saying, "live and let live" while the right is rigid and confining, so when they do shit like this they will be indicted. So when it comes to child molestors, DWI's, the Ku Klux Klan etc. you think Dems have a "live and let live attitude? WOW!!!! QuoteIf the left or a member of it did something very constraing, they would be indicted as a whole. I guess Leiberman is a sort of example of that, but outed frok the party. Prolly not a good example. But they aren't indicted as a whole. Their transgressions are swept under the rug an usually don't get much attention in the press. Take George Allens stupid use of the word Maccaca. The WaPo rans front page stories for almost 3 weeks about it. When was the last time you heard a story about Jefferson? I know you see the hypocracy. Question is will you admit it exists? If Foley had been forced to resign last year, it wouldn't have surprised me to hear the Dems accuse Reps. of being anti-homosexual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #172 October 3, 2006 QuoteSure, difference is that I am willing to talk, meaning my party has nothng to be embarrased about and my party is on the way up. Buh-bye, enjoy it down there. Exactly, people in your party have no shame. That's exactly what keeps them out of power. Be prepared for Karl Roves October Surprise. I hear it's going to be a good one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #173 October 3, 2006 QuoteMake sure and keep a towel handy for yourself. Drool is so unbecoming Wow.. how do you guys get away with those.... I would be banned for life Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #174 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuote but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. As long as it's a Dem being investigated, sure ... if it's the Repubs, everyone that heard, may have heard, or been rumored to be from the same town as someone who heard should resign.... Of course, it WAS a Republican, and one that had co-sponsored more than a dozen "child protection" measures. What a HYPOCRITE.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #175 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteSure, difference is that I am willing to talk, meaning my party has nothng to be embarrased about and my party is on the way up. Buh-bye, enjoy it down there. Exactly, people in your party have no shame. That's exactly what keeps them out of power. Be prepared for Karl Roves October Surprise. I hear it's going to be a good one. It is now being reported that Brian Ross of ABC new of this in August of this year. So, we must let the children suffer until October because of ??????? This whole thing is coming apart (Foley is scum and will get what he deserves) in front of thier eyes. I knew this was going to be fun to watch"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 7 of 20 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Gravitymaster 0 #172 October 3, 2006 QuoteSure, difference is that I am willing to talk, meaning my party has nothng to be embarrased about and my party is on the way up. Buh-bye, enjoy it down there. Exactly, people in your party have no shame. That's exactly what keeps them out of power. Be prepared for Karl Roves October Surprise. I hear it's going to be a good one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #173 October 3, 2006 QuoteMake sure and keep a towel handy for yourself. Drool is so unbecoming Wow.. how do you guys get away with those.... I would be banned for life Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #174 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuote but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. As long as it's a Dem being investigated, sure ... if it's the Repubs, everyone that heard, may have heard, or been rumored to be from the same town as someone who heard should resign.... Of course, it WAS a Republican, and one that had co-sponsored more than a dozen "child protection" measures. What a HYPOCRITE.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #175 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteSure, difference is that I am willing to talk, meaning my party has nothng to be embarrased about and my party is on the way up. Buh-bye, enjoy it down there. Exactly, people in your party have no shame. That's exactly what keeps them out of power. Be prepared for Karl Roves October Surprise. I hear it's going to be a good one. It is now being reported that Brian Ross of ABC new of this in August of this year. So, we must let the children suffer until October because of ??????? This whole thing is coming apart (Foley is scum and will get what he deserves) in front of thier eyes. I knew this was going to be fun to watch"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 7 of 20 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Amazon 7 #173 October 3, 2006 QuoteMake sure and keep a towel handy for yourself. Drool is so unbecoming Wow.. how do you guys get away with those.... I would be banned for life Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #174 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuote but lefties are usually more willing to talk about it. As long as it's a Dem being investigated, sure ... if it's the Repubs, everyone that heard, may have heard, or been rumored to be from the same town as someone who heard should resign.... Of course, it WAS a Republican, and one that had co-sponsored more than a dozen "child protection" measures. What a HYPOCRITE.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #175 October 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteSure, difference is that I am willing to talk, meaning my party has nothng to be embarrased about and my party is on the way up. Buh-bye, enjoy it down there. Exactly, people in your party have no shame. That's exactly what keeps them out of power. Be prepared for Karl Roves October Surprise. I hear it's going to be a good one. It is now being reported that Brian Ross of ABC new of this in August of this year. So, we must let the children suffer until October because of ??????? This whole thing is coming apart (Foley is scum and will get what he deserves) in front of thier eyes. I knew this was going to be fun to watch"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 7 of 20 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
