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Clinton death list. That has been debunked



Really? I've not seen anything debunking it yet... can you point me to a link?



Guilty until proven innocent huh. How about this death list?
Laura Bush: one ex-boyfriend.
George W: http://iraqbodycount.org/



I've found changing the subject is always a good way to avoid the issue. :ph34r:

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Guilty until proven innocent huh. How about this death list?
Laura Bush: one ex-boyfriend.
George W: http://iraqbodycount.org/



I've found changing the subject is always a good way to avoid the issue. :ph34r:



Actually I wasn't changing any issue. I can't provide information for something that didn't happen. I can provide information for something that actually has happened. You wanted a death list, I gave you one, actually I gave you two so you owe me one
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Wait, you owe me two. And I was about to let it slide.

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Guilty until proven innocent huh. How about this death list?
Laura Bush: one ex-boyfriend.
George W: http://iraqbodycount.org/



I've found changing the subject is always a good way to avoid the issue. :ph34r:



Actually I wasn't changing any issue. I can't provide information for something that didn't happen. I can provide information for something that actually has happened. You wanted a death list, I gave you one, actually I gave you two so you owe me one
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Wait, you owe me two. And I was about to let it slide.



Since we're playing stupid games...

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Guilty until proven innocent huh. How about this death list?
Laura Bush: one ex-boyfriend.
George W: http://iraqbodycount.org/



I've found changing the subject is always a good way to avoid the issue. :ph34r:



Actually I wasn't changing any issue.



You did change the subject.

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I can't provide information for something that didn't happen.


Are you saying none of those people on the "Clinton Death List" didn't die? Last I heard they were all dead. Is Vince Foster in the South Pacific somewhere... hangin' w/ Elvis and Jim Morrison?

Let me guess - In your mind the current administration can do no right because the death of American soldiers trumps everything.

See... I can play the tangential game, too. :P

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Are you saying none of those people on the "Clinton Death List" didn't die? Last I heard they were all dead. Is Vince Foster in the South Pacific somewhere... hangin' w/ Elvis and Jim Morrison?

Wow, that's a "Hannitized" argument if I ever saw one. Lots of other people are dead too, except for may be Ken Lay:P What did Clinton have to do with their deaths? If you have some documentation then feel free to produce it. I'll read it. If you want links to stories about the Iraq war deaths, or how we were misled into it, or to ones about Laura running over her ex-boyfriend I'll provide them. As much as I hate to use the "F" word.....facts are easy to produce;)

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Some people lack the ability to recognize their own use of logical fallacies.

Are you familiar with ad hominem attacks? :D



Sure, I think that GTAvercetti pointed out the link to the RNC memo that stated that it was the official campaign strategy of choice for them this fall;)

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Some people lack the ability to recognize their own use of logical fallacies.

Are you familiar with ad hominem attacks? :D



Sure, I think that GTAvercetti pointed out the link to the RNC memo that stated that it was the official campaign strategy of choice for them this fall;)



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Amazing how people with dirt on the Clintons seemed to commit suicide by shooting themelves in the back of the head... or by falling asleep on train tracks to be beheaded... ;)



Watch your 6, then :D
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Some people lack the ability to recognize their own use of logical fallacies.

Are you familiar with ad hominem attacks? :D



Sure, I think that GTAvercetti pointed out the link to the RNC memo that stated that it was the official campaign strategy of choice for them this fall;)



Holy non sequitur, robin.

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Some people lack the ability to recognize their own use of logical fallacies.

Are you familiar with ad hominem attacks? :D



Sure, I think that GTAvercetti pointed out the link to the RNC memo that stated that it was the official campaign strategy of choice for them this fall;)



Holy non sequitur, robin.



WRONG. Very sequitur indeed.
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Some people lack the ability to recognize their own use of logical fallacies.

Are you familiar with ad hominem attacks? :D



Sure, I think that GTAvercetti pointed out the link to the RNC memo that stated that it was the official campaign strategy of choice for them this fall;)



Holy non sequitur, robin.



WRONG. Very sequitur indeed.



How is a story about the RNC's preference for negative ads relevant to ad hominem attacks by posters in this forum?

Is this the old "Well, Johnny did it" rationale?

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Some people lack the ability to recognize their own use of logical fallacies.

Are you familiar with ad hominem attacks? :D



Sure, I think that GTAvercetti pointed out the link to the RNC memo that stated that it was the official campaign strategy of choice for them this fall;)



Holy non sequitur, robin.



WRONG. Very sequitur indeed.



How is a story about the RNC's preference for negative ads relevant to ad hominem attacks by posters in this forum?

Is this the old "Well, Johnny did it" rationale?



You mean "how is a story about RNC ad hominem attacks releveant to ad hominem attacks? I'll leave that one alone. But what are you talking about? My use of "hannitization"? That's not attacking you, that's attacking that particular argument style. It's used frequently by the talk radio folks and it drives me up the wall.
I'll summarize.
"Clinton killed a bunch of people"
"What are you talking about, he didn't kill anyone"
"Are you crazy? Are you trying to tell me that those people aren't dead".
"Well sure they're dead but that's......."
"So you agree that he's a killer. And you're defending his actions, well that's just sick (other party is silently disconnected)....You know that's what these libs and their complicit media are all about. They hate America and Justice cute little babies and they love commies and terrorists and that's why you need to listen to my program because I'm the beacon of truth who will protect you from those crazys out there. I'd go on but we have to take another 10 minute break for commercials, half of which I recorded".

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Clinton death list. That has been debunked



Really? I've not seen anything debunking it yet... can you point me to a link?



Guilty until proven innocent huh. How about this death list?
Laura Bush: one ex-boyfriend.
George W: http://iraqbodycount.org/



Or like this^^^? It would have been pretty easy to find a site that actually debunked the claims that Clinton is somehow directly tied to the deaths of 56 people - most of which where on his bad side.

Instead to you try to change the subject.

Maybe you should take it up with Lucky. He's the one who brought up the "Clinton Death list".

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Guilty until proven innocent huh. How about this death list?
Laura Bush: one ex-boyfriend.
George W: http://iraqbodycount.org/



Or like this^^^? It would have been pretty easy to find a site that actually debunked the claims that Clinton is somehow directly tied to the deaths of 56 people - most of which where on his bad side.



Me going to look up information that debunks an unsubstantiated accusation makes no sense and is a complete waste of time. But that's the level to which our political discourse has been lowered. An baseless accusation is made and then it's up to the other guy to debunk it. I'll admit, I should have let the original comment pass like the turd that it was but I'm running on a very few hours sleep. I was never that much of a Clinton supporter but I have come to his defense because I got sick and tired of the near decade long series of personal attacks that had nothing to do with his leadership. It ticked me off that there was never any discourse about his policy, it was all about his penis and most of the attacks were as valid as the one that we're talking about here. The last straw for me was when the R's shut down the government and ruined my week long climbing trip to Rainier so they could have an extended holiday and do a little political posturing at taxpayer expense. I'm still pissed about that one. They owe me some airfare...and some punitive damages.
What was the question again? Damn, I'm wandering. So I'll just say in closing..."Sorry Laura, I didn't mean to drag you into this. I know your's was an accident. Your husband however has a lot of blood on his hands and he deserves every personal attack he receives."
Oh yea, I'm glad that we finally quit talking about the Foley crap. It's good to talk about other things that are equally unimportant.

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I'll summarize.
"Clinton killed a bunch of people"
"What are you talking about, he didn't kill anyone"
"Are you crazy? Are you trying to tell me that those people aren't dead".
"Well sure they're dead but that's......."
"So you agree that he's a killer. And you're defending his actions, well that's just sick



:D:D:D

Sounds like half the posts in all the Foley threads (of which there are WAY too many).

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I'll summarize.
"Clinton killed a bunch of people"
"What are you talking about, he didn't kill anyone"
"Are you crazy? Are you trying to tell me that those people aren't dead".
"Well sure they're dead but that's......."
"So you agree that he's a killer. And you're defending his actions, well that's just sick



:D:D:D

Sounds like half the posts in all the Foley threads (of which there are WAY too many).



He's a homophobic, child predator who should be run out of Congress and put in prison for the rest of his life!!!!!!!!!!! >:(

Anyone who thinks different is a sick f%(k!

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He's a homophobic, child predator who should be run out of Congress and put in prison for the rest of his life!!!!!!!!!!! >:(

Anyone who thinks different is a sick f%(k!



All 4 of those things can be covered in a single thread.

And I can't believe you are defending the guy.:P

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He's a homophobic, child predator who should be run out of Congress and put in prison for the rest of his life!!!!!!!!!!! >:(

Anyone who thinks different is a sick f%(k!



All 4 of those things can be covered in a single thread.

And I can't believe you are defending the guy.:P



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>He's a homophobic, child predator who should be run out of Congress
>and put in prison for the rest of his life!

>Anyone who thinks different is a sick f%(k!

No problem expressing your opinion on Foley, but be aware that you cannot call people here sick fucks if they disagree with you (and some have.)

(Also I have a feeling you meant "pedophilic" and not "homophobic" above.)

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I didn't give a crap about Clinton's lie and I don't give a crap about Foley either.



I give a crap about BOTH. One did illegal things, and it sure seems the second one did as well. I want them both punished by the government they were in.

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stupid shit sells...PERIOD! The only bias around here is towards the payout. The media, and hell...the politicians for that matter, are in it for the money and we're all dumber for it.



The difference that I have seen is this, Clinton lied and was attacked by the right, defended by the left. Foley seems to be an ass, and is attacked by the left, and I have yet to really see anyone defend his actions, and I doubt I will. The left takes a lighter view on sexual issues unless it will help them, the right seems to have one stance that has different levels of severity depending on the political motive. But no one has flat out defended Foley.

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