Gravitymaster 0 #301 October 6, 2006 Nothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #302 October 6, 2006 QuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. You believe Bloggers as sources? Say it ain't so! The homophobic gay pedophile WAS a Republican.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #303 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. QuoteYou believe Bloggers as sources? Say it ain't so! I believe the photograph speaks for itself. Do you have some contradictory information? If so please show it. I believe the National Tennesean directly quoted Gore as saying: homosexuality is not "an acceptable alternative that society should affirm" and said in his 1984 U.S. Senate race that he would not accept money from gay rights organizations and that he opposed a "gay bill of rights," Gore also invited Phelps to both inaugurations. QuoteThe homophobic gay pedophile WAS a Republican. Yep, and he will get whats coming to him. I think it's shameful for anyone to defend Gore's support of such a homophobic, hate-filled religious sect who protests the funerals of dead US Servicemen and te Funerals of children who were slaughtered by a lunatic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #304 October 6, 2006 Quote Normal hypocricy from the Left... How's that balanced budget amendment coming along? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #305 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. You believe Bloggers as sources? Say it ain't so! The homophobic gay pedophile WAS a Republican. What exactly is your definition of pedophile? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #306 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. You believe Bloggers as sources? Say it ain't so! The homophobic gay pedophile WAS a Republican. What exactly is your definition of pedophile? I think we need to define "was" first, don't we?? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #307 October 6, 2006 A common claim by many liberals is the sexual mores of this country are victorian, puritanic, restrictive, up tight. They frequently make comparisons to the US and Europe. The oldest age of consent in Europe is sixteen. In most countries, it's less. Spain, for instance, sets the bar at age thirteen. It's okay in Spain for a 30 year old man to have sex with a thirteen year old girl. Meanwhile, here in the US, people are getting all bent out of shape because a grown man sent "dirty" e-mails to a young man, just shy of his 18th birthday. BTW I checked of the age of consent in DC and Louisiana. It's 16 and 17 respectively. Can somebody tell me which laws were broken, here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #308 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteBut, you are right, a gay congressman talking dirty to a page is much more important. In the party that tried to put homophobia into our constitution it sure as hell is an issue. ATTENTION: ALL CONSERVATIVES READ - THIS IS THE CENTRAL THEME HERE. If Clinton were to overenforce sexual indecency laws, it would be as hypocritical as Foley pushing the homophobia amendment. This is the key to this entire, arduous issue; glass house. Let's say Clinton were to push for gays in the military, such as he did, and then he was secretly homophobic and signed into law legislation outlawing certain homosexual activity. <---- this is the theme kids, wake up. Well, maybe not Clinton, but apparently Gore is homophobic. Here he is hanging out with his Hommies at the Westboro Baptist Church. http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml Is this a good example of what you are talking about? I would say it's an example in type, but a very weak and indirect example not comparable to the Foley matter. __________________________________________ Foley = voted for 28th Marriage Amendment and legislation to protect kids from predators Foley = engaged in homosexual behavior with minors _________________________________________ Gore = Politically with a party that drafted "don't ask - don't tell." Did he push it? Did he vote for it? Did he write it? WHat was his voting record as a Senator in regard to homo matters? Gore = (according to the unbiased writings of the Georgia Log Cabin Republicans) He's pictured with anti-gay Phelps; what was the event? How did he benefit? Quoted as saying that homosexuality is not acceptable and shouldn't be condoned (a far cry from cemdemned legislatively). Refused to sign Gay BORights. ______________________________________ What your argument fails to do is to establish a LEGISLATIVE record of Gore PROACTIVELY acting against homos, then acting himself in a homo manner. The only merit this article and your argument have is that he belongs to a party that generally accepts homos, yet he is himself against that ideology and won;t do things to support it. The continuum of activism runs passive in the middle, procative for a cause on ine end, and proactive against a cause in the other. You have failed to establish any proactivity on one end with simultaneous a proactivity against on the other. The Foley matter has that and your example has overshaddows of it, but nothing material enough to draw a conclusion that Gore voted against homo right, just refused to vote for them, then acted himself as a homosexual. We could say the same for McCain and the few others who initially voted against the Overtime Law. Their party is teh party of oppression of workers, yet they vote down legislation that will harm some workers. These are scant, loose examples, but not to the level of a Foley by any stretch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #309 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteWell, maybe not Clinton, but apparently Gore is homophobic. Here he is hanging out with his Hommies at the Westboro Baptist Church. http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml Is this a good example of what you are talking about? HOLY COW BATMAN! Was this stuff used against him in 2000? How did Gore spin this away? Maybe it is all part of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy, they are a republican gay advocacy group making these charges. For one it wa 16 years prior. For two, when did Gore ever go on record as saying he wanted to denend homos? I realize it's a given that if you belong to teh Dem Party it is assumed you are for civil rights, you have just affirmed that, but Gore and his wife were known for being for moral causes like the music labeling. This news is no shocker. Show me legislation where he voted against gay rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #310 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, maybe not Clinton, but apparently Gore is homophobic. Here he is hanging out with his Hommies at the Westboro Baptist Church. http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml Is this a good example of what you are talking about? HOLY COW BATMAN! Was this stuff used against him in 2000? How did Gore spin this away? Maybe it is all part of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy, they are a republican gay advocacy group making these charges. It justt goes to prove what a bunch of lying hypocrits the left really is. This is worse than Robt. Byrds KKK past, yet you will never hear condemnation of our extreme homophobic ex-Vice President from the Democrats. I wonder how much influence Gore had on the Clinton "don't ask, don't tell" policy for the Military. Show me legislation he drafted or agreed with that is anti-gay? Then, show me where he acted as a homosexual. You need both to make your argument. Your argument is this: Dems are for civila nd human rights, so they say, but Gore failed to help them by saying he would refuse to sign a gay BOR's. You've concedded that the Dems are the party of civil and human rights, versus the Repubs. You argument and comparison to Foley is ridiculous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #311 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteNot to mention being the "Black party", then throwing comments like "Aunt Jemima" (Rice) and "Uncle Tom" (Powell) or putting a Black Senate candidate in vaudeville blackface (Steele)... but look at the furor over Allen's remarks. Now, Pelosi and Emanuel are screaming for investigations of the Republican leadership, but refuse to take a polygraph to prove that they knew nothing about the Foley issue before it broke. Normal hypocricy from the Left... I agree. Then they yammer on about what a bunch of gay hating homophobes Republican are and how they are the party of inclusivness while at the same time we have a MAJOR leader in the Democratic Party who seems to have no problem bashing gays at fundraisers and associating himself with one of the most vile and hate-filled groups out there. Not a peep from the Lefties!! UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!!! But not unexpected. What has he done proactively to vote against gays? Refusing to help them is not the same as acting to hurt them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #312 October 6, 2006 QuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. Quit your misguided arguments. Rather, what I see is the same whining Dems have done for years being the minority. Get used to it, society has become ill with the antics from yiour party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #313 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. QuoteYou believe Bloggers as sources? Say it ain't so! I believe the photograph speaks for itself. Do you have some contradictory information? If so please show it. I believe the National Tennesean directly quoted Gore as saying: homosexuality is not "an acceptable alternative that society should affirm" and said in his 1984 U.S. Senate race that he would not accept money from gay rights organizations and that he opposed a "gay bill of rights," Gore also invited Phelps to both inaugurations. QuoteThe homophobic gay pedophile WAS a Republican. Yep, and he will get whats coming to him. I think it's shameful for anyone to defend Gore's support of such a homophobic, hate-filled religious sect who protests the funerals of dead US Servicemen and te Funerals of children who were slaughtered by a lunatic. QuoteI think it's shameful for anyone to defend Gore's support of such a homophobic, hate-filled religious sect who protests the funerals of dead US Servicemen and te Funerals of children who were slaughtered by a lunatic. Even if you did establish Gore is a devote homophobe, you have failed to establish what he has done proactively to hurt their cause. He can have whatever private thougths he wants, but as long as he doesn't act on it then it is irrelevant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #314 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. You believe Bloggers as sources? Say it ain't so! The homophobic gay pedophile WAS a Republican. What exactly is your definition of pedophile? God, will you guys quit defending Foley already? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #315 October 6, 2006 QuoteA common claim by many liberals is the sexual mores of this country are victorian, puritanic, restrictive, up tight. They frequently make comparisons to the US and Europe. The oldest age of consent in Europe is sixteen. In most countries, it's less. Spain, for instance, sets the bar at age thirteen. It's okay in Spain for a 30 year old man to have sex with a thirteen year old girl. Meanwhile, here in the US, people are getting all bent out of shape because a grown man sent "dirty" e-mails to a young man, just shy of his 18th birthday. BTW I checked of the age of consent in DC and Louisiana. It's 16 and 17 respectively. Can somebody tell me which laws were broken, here? W/o researching DC laws, I imagine that aiding and abedding variuous conduct with a minor might be an issue here. Age of consent doesn't subvert all other laws. We're talking state laws here too, so don;t forget federal laws like the MANN ACT, which deals with females. Furthermore, the investigation is ongoing. Weren;t other people comming forward too? Furthermore, aside from any legislation, which may or may not have been broken, how about ethics issues? I don't care if the page was 35, it is still unethical to have those relations. Perhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #316 October 6, 2006 QuotePerhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Perhaps you've heard of Congressman Studds?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #317 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, maybe not Clinton, but apparently Gore is homophobic. Here he is hanging out with his Hommies at the Westboro Baptist Church. http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml Is this a good example of what you are talking about? HOLY COW BATMAN! Was this stuff used against him in 2000? How did Gore spin this away? Maybe it is all part of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy, they are a republican gay advocacy group making these charges. For one it wa 16 years prior. For two, when did Gore ever go on record as saying he wanted to denend homos? I realize it's a given that if you belong to teh Dem Party it is assumed you are for civil rights, you have just affirmed that, but Gore and his wife were known for being for moral causes like the music labeling. This news is no shocker. Show me legislation where he voted against gay rights. I think you're looking too closely. In the piece the head of the LCR even stated that the sources were questionable. So my question is, did anyone question them or are we just arguing about a poorly sourced election year hit piece? Personally I'd love for all this Foley crap to go away. Kick the bum out and take some of his money. I'd rather get back to issues like national security and how the party in power has put us in greater danger while doing nothing at home to make us safer, such as implementing the 9/11 commission recommendations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #318 October 6, 2006 Seven posts in a row. WOW! I'm still waiting to hear what was debunked about the following people and fiascos? Dan Rostenkowski White House Coffees and Lincoln Bedroom sales Chinagate Walter R. Tucker Jim Traficant Robert Torricelli William Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #319 October 6, 2006 Had to share this one. I just got it from a Republican friend of mine. A real Republican, not one of those new ones Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #320 October 6, 2006 Quote Furthermore, aside from any legislation, which may or may not have been broken, how about ethics issues? I don't care if the page was 35, it is still unethical to have those relations. Perhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Perhaps you remember how the left defended him so much? Why would you punish the guy if he broke no laws? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #321 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuotePerhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Perhaps you've heard of Congressman Studds? Right, a bit of an aged example, but none the less that with Foley all examples of impropriety. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #322 October 6, 2006 And the reason you don't answer either is....?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #323 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWell, maybe not Clinton, but apparently Gore is homophobic. Here he is hanging out with his Hommies at the Westboro Baptist Church. http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml Is this a good example of what you are talking about? HOLY COW BATMAN! Was this stuff used against him in 2000? How did Gore spin this away? Maybe it is all part of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy, they are a republican gay advocacy group making these charges. For one it wa 16 years prior. For two, when did Gore ever go on record as saying he wanted to denend homos? I realize it's a given that if you belong to teh Dem Party it is assumed you are for civil rights, you have just affirmed that, but Gore and his wife were known for being for moral causes like the music labeling. This news is no shocker. Show me legislation where he voted against gay rights. I think you're looking too closely. In the piece the head of the LCR even stated that the sources were questionable. So my question is, did anyone question them or are we just arguing about a poorly sourced election year hit piece? Personally I'd love for all this Foley crap to go away. Kick the bum out and take some of his money. I'd rather get back to issues like national security and how the party in power has put us in greater danger while doing nothing at home to make us safer, such as implementing the 9/11 commission recommendations. I was just giving then the benefit of the doubt so I could diminish teh merit of their argument even if all the allegations were true. I hate to ignore a source due to it's obvious bias, so I don;t usually do that. If the allegations are without merit I might throw in that it is understandable why the inane assertions were made. Their argument does nothing but affirme the Dems have a higher burden to uphold civil and human rights, the Repubs are exempt from that duty. Even if the article were true, which I doubt wholly is, but even if it is they have done zero to draw a comparison worth mentioning from Gore to Foley. What has Gore done to proactively harm gays and then act gay himself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #324 October 6, 2006 QuoteSeven posts in a row. WOW! I'm still waiting to hear what was debunked about the following people and fiascos? Dan Rostenkowski White House Coffees and Lincoln Bedroom sales Chinagate Walter R. Tucker Jim Traficant Robert Torricelli William Jefferson I see, your argument here I have just blown out of the water, so you revert back to that. I did a bunch of research on that, I will get back later today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #325 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuote Furthermore, aside from any legislation, which may or may not have been broken, how about ethics issues? I don't care if the page was 35, it is still unethical to have those relations. Perhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Perhaps you remember how the left defended him so much? Why would you punish the guy if he broke no laws? Left defended whom? Foley???? Punish him judicially/criminally or administratively? Your questions are very vague. Why is no one addressing my issues against the Republican article? Hmmmm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 Next Page 13 of 20 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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idrankwhat 0 #304 October 6, 2006 Quote Normal hypocricy from the Left... How's that balanced budget amendment coming along? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #305 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. You believe Bloggers as sources? Say it ain't so! The homophobic gay pedophile WAS a Republican. What exactly is your definition of pedophile? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #306 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. You believe Bloggers as sources? Say it ain't so! The homophobic gay pedophile WAS a Republican. What exactly is your definition of pedophile? I think we need to define "was" first, don't we?? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #307 October 6, 2006 A common claim by many liberals is the sexual mores of this country are victorian, puritanic, restrictive, up tight. They frequently make comparisons to the US and Europe. The oldest age of consent in Europe is sixteen. In most countries, it's less. Spain, for instance, sets the bar at age thirteen. It's okay in Spain for a 30 year old man to have sex with a thirteen year old girl. Meanwhile, here in the US, people are getting all bent out of shape because a grown man sent "dirty" e-mails to a young man, just shy of his 18th birthday. BTW I checked of the age of consent in DC and Louisiana. It's 16 and 17 respectively. Can somebody tell me which laws were broken, here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #308 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteBut, you are right, a gay congressman talking dirty to a page is much more important. In the party that tried to put homophobia into our constitution it sure as hell is an issue. ATTENTION: ALL CONSERVATIVES READ - THIS IS THE CENTRAL THEME HERE. If Clinton were to overenforce sexual indecency laws, it would be as hypocritical as Foley pushing the homophobia amendment. This is the key to this entire, arduous issue; glass house. Let's say Clinton were to push for gays in the military, such as he did, and then he was secretly homophobic and signed into law legislation outlawing certain homosexual activity. <---- this is the theme kids, wake up. Well, maybe not Clinton, but apparently Gore is homophobic. Here he is hanging out with his Hommies at the Westboro Baptist Church. http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml Is this a good example of what you are talking about? I would say it's an example in type, but a very weak and indirect example not comparable to the Foley matter. __________________________________________ Foley = voted for 28th Marriage Amendment and legislation to protect kids from predators Foley = engaged in homosexual behavior with minors _________________________________________ Gore = Politically with a party that drafted "don't ask - don't tell." Did he push it? Did he vote for it? Did he write it? WHat was his voting record as a Senator in regard to homo matters? Gore = (according to the unbiased writings of the Georgia Log Cabin Republicans) He's pictured with anti-gay Phelps; what was the event? How did he benefit? Quoted as saying that homosexuality is not acceptable and shouldn't be condoned (a far cry from cemdemned legislatively). Refused to sign Gay BORights. ______________________________________ What your argument fails to do is to establish a LEGISLATIVE record of Gore PROACTIVELY acting against homos, then acting himself in a homo manner. The only merit this article and your argument have is that he belongs to a party that generally accepts homos, yet he is himself against that ideology and won;t do things to support it. The continuum of activism runs passive in the middle, procative for a cause on ine end, and proactive against a cause in the other. You have failed to establish any proactivity on one end with simultaneous a proactivity against on the other. The Foley matter has that and your example has overshaddows of it, but nothing material enough to draw a conclusion that Gore voted against homo right, just refused to vote for them, then acted himself as a homosexual. We could say the same for McCain and the few others who initially voted against the Overtime Law. Their party is teh party of oppression of workers, yet they vote down legislation that will harm some workers. These are scant, loose examples, but not to the level of a Foley by any stretch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #309 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteWell, maybe not Clinton, but apparently Gore is homophobic. Here he is hanging out with his Hommies at the Westboro Baptist Church. http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml Is this a good example of what you are talking about? HOLY COW BATMAN! Was this stuff used against him in 2000? How did Gore spin this away? Maybe it is all part of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy, they are a republican gay advocacy group making these charges. For one it wa 16 years prior. For two, when did Gore ever go on record as saying he wanted to denend homos? I realize it's a given that if you belong to teh Dem Party it is assumed you are for civil rights, you have just affirmed that, but Gore and his wife were known for being for moral causes like the music labeling. This news is no shocker. Show me legislation where he voted against gay rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #310 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, maybe not Clinton, but apparently Gore is homophobic. Here he is hanging out with his Hommies at the Westboro Baptist Church. http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml Is this a good example of what you are talking about? HOLY COW BATMAN! Was this stuff used against him in 2000? How did Gore spin this away? Maybe it is all part of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy, they are a republican gay advocacy group making these charges. It justt goes to prove what a bunch of lying hypocrits the left really is. This is worse than Robt. Byrds KKK past, yet you will never hear condemnation of our extreme homophobic ex-Vice President from the Democrats. I wonder how much influence Gore had on the Clinton "don't ask, don't tell" policy for the Military. Show me legislation he drafted or agreed with that is anti-gay? Then, show me where he acted as a homosexual. You need both to make your argument. Your argument is this: Dems are for civila nd human rights, so they say, but Gore failed to help them by saying he would refuse to sign a gay BOR's. You've concedded that the Dems are the party of civil and human rights, versus the Repubs. You argument and comparison to Foley is ridiculous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #311 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteNot to mention being the "Black party", then throwing comments like "Aunt Jemima" (Rice) and "Uncle Tom" (Powell) or putting a Black Senate candidate in vaudeville blackface (Steele)... but look at the furor over Allen's remarks. Now, Pelosi and Emanuel are screaming for investigations of the Republican leadership, but refuse to take a polygraph to prove that they knew nothing about the Foley issue before it broke. Normal hypocricy from the Left... I agree. Then they yammer on about what a bunch of gay hating homophobes Republican are and how they are the party of inclusivness while at the same time we have a MAJOR leader in the Democratic Party who seems to have no problem bashing gays at fundraisers and associating himself with one of the most vile and hate-filled groups out there. Not a peep from the Lefties!! UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!!! But not unexpected. What has he done proactively to vote against gays? Refusing to help them is not the same as acting to hurt them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #312 October 6, 2006 QuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. Quit your misguided arguments. Rather, what I see is the same whining Dems have done for years being the minority. Get used to it, society has become ill with the antics from yiour party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #313 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. QuoteYou believe Bloggers as sources? Say it ain't so! I believe the photograph speaks for itself. Do you have some contradictory information? If so please show it. I believe the National Tennesean directly quoted Gore as saying: homosexuality is not "an acceptable alternative that society should affirm" and said in his 1984 U.S. Senate race that he would not accept money from gay rights organizations and that he opposed a "gay bill of rights," Gore also invited Phelps to both inaugurations. QuoteThe homophobic gay pedophile WAS a Republican. Yep, and he will get whats coming to him. I think it's shameful for anyone to defend Gore's support of such a homophobic, hate-filled religious sect who protests the funerals of dead US Servicemen and te Funerals of children who were slaughtered by a lunatic. QuoteI think it's shameful for anyone to defend Gore's support of such a homophobic, hate-filled religious sect who protests the funerals of dead US Servicemen and te Funerals of children who were slaughtered by a lunatic. Even if you did establish Gore is a devote homophobe, you have failed to establish what he has done proactively to hurt their cause. He can have whatever private thougths he wants, but as long as he doesn't act on it then it is irrelevant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #314 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. You believe Bloggers as sources? Say it ain't so! The homophobic gay pedophile WAS a Republican. What exactly is your definition of pedophile? God, will you guys quit defending Foley already? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #315 October 6, 2006 QuoteA common claim by many liberals is the sexual mores of this country are victorian, puritanic, restrictive, up tight. They frequently make comparisons to the US and Europe. The oldest age of consent in Europe is sixteen. In most countries, it's less. Spain, for instance, sets the bar at age thirteen. It's okay in Spain for a 30 year old man to have sex with a thirteen year old girl. Meanwhile, here in the US, people are getting all bent out of shape because a grown man sent "dirty" e-mails to a young man, just shy of his 18th birthday. BTW I checked of the age of consent in DC and Louisiana. It's 16 and 17 respectively. Can somebody tell me which laws were broken, here? W/o researching DC laws, I imagine that aiding and abedding variuous conduct with a minor might be an issue here. Age of consent doesn't subvert all other laws. We're talking state laws here too, so don;t forget federal laws like the MANN ACT, which deals with females. Furthermore, the investigation is ongoing. Weren;t other people comming forward too? Furthermore, aside from any legislation, which may or may not have been broken, how about ethics issues? I don't care if the page was 35, it is still unethical to have those relations. Perhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #316 October 6, 2006 QuotePerhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Perhaps you've heard of Congressman Studds?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #317 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, maybe not Clinton, but apparently Gore is homophobic. Here he is hanging out with his Hommies at the Westboro Baptist Church. http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml Is this a good example of what you are talking about? HOLY COW BATMAN! Was this stuff used against him in 2000? How did Gore spin this away? Maybe it is all part of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy, they are a republican gay advocacy group making these charges. For one it wa 16 years prior. For two, when did Gore ever go on record as saying he wanted to denend homos? I realize it's a given that if you belong to teh Dem Party it is assumed you are for civil rights, you have just affirmed that, but Gore and his wife were known for being for moral causes like the music labeling. This news is no shocker. Show me legislation where he voted against gay rights. I think you're looking too closely. In the piece the head of the LCR even stated that the sources were questionable. So my question is, did anyone question them or are we just arguing about a poorly sourced election year hit piece? Personally I'd love for all this Foley crap to go away. Kick the bum out and take some of his money. I'd rather get back to issues like national security and how the party in power has put us in greater danger while doing nothing at home to make us safer, such as implementing the 9/11 commission recommendations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #318 October 6, 2006 Seven posts in a row. WOW! I'm still waiting to hear what was debunked about the following people and fiascos? Dan Rostenkowski White House Coffees and Lincoln Bedroom sales Chinagate Walter R. Tucker Jim Traficant Robert Torricelli William Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites idrankwhat 0 #319 October 6, 2006 Had to share this one. I just got it from a Republican friend of mine. A real Republican, not one of those new ones Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #320 October 6, 2006 Quote Furthermore, aside from any legislation, which may or may not have been broken, how about ethics issues? I don't care if the page was 35, it is still unethical to have those relations. Perhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Perhaps you remember how the left defended him so much? Why would you punish the guy if he broke no laws? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #321 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuotePerhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Perhaps you've heard of Congressman Studds? Right, a bit of an aged example, but none the less that with Foley all examples of impropriety. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #322 October 6, 2006 And the reason you don't answer either is....?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #323 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWell, maybe not Clinton, but apparently Gore is homophobic. Here he is hanging out with his Hommies at the Westboro Baptist Church. http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml Is this a good example of what you are talking about? HOLY COW BATMAN! Was this stuff used against him in 2000? How did Gore spin this away? Maybe it is all part of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy, they are a republican gay advocacy group making these charges. For one it wa 16 years prior. For two, when did Gore ever go on record as saying he wanted to denend homos? I realize it's a given that if you belong to teh Dem Party it is assumed you are for civil rights, you have just affirmed that, but Gore and his wife were known for being for moral causes like the music labeling. This news is no shocker. Show me legislation where he voted against gay rights. I think you're looking too closely. In the piece the head of the LCR even stated that the sources were questionable. So my question is, did anyone question them or are we just arguing about a poorly sourced election year hit piece? Personally I'd love for all this Foley crap to go away. Kick the bum out and take some of his money. I'd rather get back to issues like national security and how the party in power has put us in greater danger while doing nothing at home to make us safer, such as implementing the 9/11 commission recommendations. I was just giving then the benefit of the doubt so I could diminish teh merit of their argument even if all the allegations were true. I hate to ignore a source due to it's obvious bias, so I don;t usually do that. If the allegations are without merit I might throw in that it is understandable why the inane assertions were made. Their argument does nothing but affirme the Dems have a higher burden to uphold civil and human rights, the Repubs are exempt from that duty. Even if the article were true, which I doubt wholly is, but even if it is they have done zero to draw a comparison worth mentioning from Gore to Foley. What has Gore done to proactively harm gays and then act gay himself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #324 October 6, 2006 QuoteSeven posts in a row. WOW! I'm still waiting to hear what was debunked about the following people and fiascos? Dan Rostenkowski White House Coffees and Lincoln Bedroom sales Chinagate Walter R. Tucker Jim Traficant Robert Torricelli William Jefferson I see, your argument here I have just blown out of the water, so you revert back to that. I did a bunch of research on that, I will get back later today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #325 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuote Furthermore, aside from any legislation, which may or may not have been broken, how about ethics issues? I don't care if the page was 35, it is still unethical to have those relations. Perhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Perhaps you remember how the left defended him so much? Why would you punish the guy if he broke no laws? Left defended whom? Foley???? Punish him judicially/criminally or administratively? Your questions are very vague. Why is no one addressing my issues against the Republican article? Hmmmm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 Next Page 13 of 20 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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Lucky... 0 #314 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteNothing but politically motivated BS as you and I and others have said from the beginning. You believe Bloggers as sources? Say it ain't so! The homophobic gay pedophile WAS a Republican. What exactly is your definition of pedophile? God, will you guys quit defending Foley already? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #315 October 6, 2006 QuoteA common claim by many liberals is the sexual mores of this country are victorian, puritanic, restrictive, up tight. They frequently make comparisons to the US and Europe. The oldest age of consent in Europe is sixteen. In most countries, it's less. Spain, for instance, sets the bar at age thirteen. It's okay in Spain for a 30 year old man to have sex with a thirteen year old girl. Meanwhile, here in the US, people are getting all bent out of shape because a grown man sent "dirty" e-mails to a young man, just shy of his 18th birthday. BTW I checked of the age of consent in DC and Louisiana. It's 16 and 17 respectively. Can somebody tell me which laws were broken, here? W/o researching DC laws, I imagine that aiding and abedding variuous conduct with a minor might be an issue here. Age of consent doesn't subvert all other laws. We're talking state laws here too, so don;t forget federal laws like the MANN ACT, which deals with females. Furthermore, the investigation is ongoing. Weren;t other people comming forward too? Furthermore, aside from any legislation, which may or may not have been broken, how about ethics issues? I don't care if the page was 35, it is still unethical to have those relations. Perhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #316 October 6, 2006 QuotePerhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Perhaps you've heard of Congressman Studds?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #317 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, maybe not Clinton, but apparently Gore is homophobic. Here he is hanging out with his Hommies at the Westboro Baptist Church. http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml Is this a good example of what you are talking about? HOLY COW BATMAN! Was this stuff used against him in 2000? How did Gore spin this away? Maybe it is all part of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy, they are a republican gay advocacy group making these charges. For one it wa 16 years prior. For two, when did Gore ever go on record as saying he wanted to denend homos? I realize it's a given that if you belong to teh Dem Party it is assumed you are for civil rights, you have just affirmed that, but Gore and his wife were known for being for moral causes like the music labeling. This news is no shocker. Show me legislation where he voted against gay rights. I think you're looking too closely. In the piece the head of the LCR even stated that the sources were questionable. So my question is, did anyone question them or are we just arguing about a poorly sourced election year hit piece? Personally I'd love for all this Foley crap to go away. Kick the bum out and take some of his money. I'd rather get back to issues like national security and how the party in power has put us in greater danger while doing nothing at home to make us safer, such as implementing the 9/11 commission recommendations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #318 October 6, 2006 Seven posts in a row. WOW! I'm still waiting to hear what was debunked about the following people and fiascos? Dan Rostenkowski White House Coffees and Lincoln Bedroom sales Chinagate Walter R. Tucker Jim Traficant Robert Torricelli William Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #319 October 6, 2006 Had to share this one. I just got it from a Republican friend of mine. A real Republican, not one of those new ones Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #320 October 6, 2006 Quote Furthermore, aside from any legislation, which may or may not have been broken, how about ethics issues? I don't care if the page was 35, it is still unethical to have those relations. Perhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Perhaps you remember how the left defended him so much? Why would you punish the guy if he broke no laws? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #321 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuotePerhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Perhaps you've heard of Congressman Studds? Right, a bit of an aged example, but none the less that with Foley all examples of impropriety. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #322 October 6, 2006 And the reason you don't answer either is....?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #323 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWell, maybe not Clinton, but apparently Gore is homophobic. Here he is hanging out with his Hommies at the Westboro Baptist Church. http://www.lcrga.com/archive/200010251159.shtml Is this a good example of what you are talking about? HOLY COW BATMAN! Was this stuff used against him in 2000? How did Gore spin this away? Maybe it is all part of the vast Right Wing Conspiracy, they are a republican gay advocacy group making these charges. For one it wa 16 years prior. For two, when did Gore ever go on record as saying he wanted to denend homos? I realize it's a given that if you belong to teh Dem Party it is assumed you are for civil rights, you have just affirmed that, but Gore and his wife were known for being for moral causes like the music labeling. This news is no shocker. Show me legislation where he voted against gay rights. I think you're looking too closely. In the piece the head of the LCR even stated that the sources were questionable. So my question is, did anyone question them or are we just arguing about a poorly sourced election year hit piece? Personally I'd love for all this Foley crap to go away. Kick the bum out and take some of his money. I'd rather get back to issues like national security and how the party in power has put us in greater danger while doing nothing at home to make us safer, such as implementing the 9/11 commission recommendations. I was just giving then the benefit of the doubt so I could diminish teh merit of their argument even if all the allegations were true. I hate to ignore a source due to it's obvious bias, so I don;t usually do that. If the allegations are without merit I might throw in that it is understandable why the inane assertions were made. Their argument does nothing but affirme the Dems have a higher burden to uphold civil and human rights, the Repubs are exempt from that duty. Even if the article were true, which I doubt wholly is, but even if it is they have done zero to draw a comparison worth mentioning from Gore to Foley. What has Gore done to proactively harm gays and then act gay himself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #324 October 6, 2006 QuoteSeven posts in a row. WOW! I'm still waiting to hear what was debunked about the following people and fiascos? Dan Rostenkowski White House Coffees and Lincoln Bedroom sales Chinagate Walter R. Tucker Jim Traficant Robert Torricelli William Jefferson I see, your argument here I have just blown out of the water, so you revert back to that. I did a bunch of research on that, I will get back later today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #325 October 6, 2006 QuoteQuote Furthermore, aside from any legislation, which may or may not have been broken, how about ethics issues? I don't care if the page was 35, it is still unethical to have those relations. Perhaps you heard of the Clinton impeachment? Perhaps you remember how the left defended him so much? Why would you punish the guy if he broke no laws? Left defended whom? Foley???? Punish him judicially/criminally or administratively? Your questions are very vague. Why is no one addressing my issues against the Republican article? Hmmmm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
