Amazon 7 #1 September 27, 2006 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15030988/ DALLAS - 7-Eleven Inc. is dropping Venezuela-backed Citgo as its gasoline supplier after more than 20 years as part of a previously announced plan by the convenience store operator to launch its own brand of fuel. 7-Eleven officials said Wednesday that the company’s decision was partly motivated by politics. Citgo Petroleum Corp. is a Houston-based subsidiary of Venezuela’s state-run oil company and 7-Eleven is worried that anti-American comments made by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez might prompt motorists to fill-up elsewhere. Well now.. lets see where THIS one goes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #2 September 27, 2006 I have not filled gast in Citgo since 2000. FYI."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #3 September 27, 2006 QuoteI have not filled gast in Citgo since 2000. FYI. Well, if the word had been spread, I would have done the same. I didn't know until recently that Chavez was cashing in on that. BTW. also circle K has dropped Citgo. http://sadbastards.wordpress.com/2006/08/21/circle-k-drops-venezuelan-owned-citgo-gas-and-goes-with-texas%E2%80%99-valero-energy/If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #4 September 27, 2006 It's a personal thing, this guy has been making family and friends miserables for a while now. Even a couple got killed by some of his people."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #5 September 27, 2006 I cut my Citgo card in little pieces the day Chavez ran our President down at the UN. No more bozo money for you Hugo. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #6 September 27, 2006 QuoteIt's a personal thing, this guy has been making family and friends miserables for a while now. Even a couple got killed by some of his people. Its personal for me too. If you tell me that somebody is a fan, freind, student or even minimally a sympathizer of Castro, then you don't need to say anything else. Its enough for me to consider this person worthless and and deserving to be boycotted.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #7 September 27, 2006 QuoteI have not filled gast in Citgo since 2000. FYI. Just curious, why not? Admittedly Chavez does his best to poke at Bush every chance he gets but, I can't discount his reasoning for doing so. He thinks the US has either tried or is trying to oust or kill him. I'm pretty sure that anyone reading in this forum would agree that that's probably not out of the question. Secondly, he uses his nation's oil for the benefit of his nation and his buddies instead of playing along with the multinationals. Does that make him a bad guy? Seriously, I haven't researched this much but I'm trying to figure out why we're supposed to have a problem with him, well other than that Pat Robertson says so and the fact that he said that Bush thought he was King of the world.....which, once again......I can't say that I disagree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,602 #8 September 27, 2006 Don't forget that when we were boycotting Arab oil a few years ago, Citgo was the the big go-to company. I can remember those long lists of companies and how much they bought from the Gulf region. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #9 September 27, 2006 First of all you need to understand the events that actually got him elected are based on illegalities. He was a LTC in the Venezuelan Army, who tried to deposed an elected president by force. The constitution at the time forbade him (as he was sentenced and sent to jail) to run for president. After maneuvering the legalities, and based on lies, this guy is elected and changed the constitution. If any of your family memebers were subject to demagogue eminent domain, Cuban style, besides ruining a country, in a manner where poverty and crime has risen to levels close to those in Iraq (check the date rates of both countries on the CIA fact book), then you would think otherwise. He has masquerade a dictatorship under a false attempt of democracy, what is worse, Jimmy Carter help legitimized a referendum where he was clearly defeated."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #10 September 27, 2006 QuoteDon't forget that when we were boycotting Arab oil a few years ago, Citgo was the the big go-to company. I can remember those long lists of companies and how much they bought from the Gulf region. Wendy W. Very true.....but......those were the pre Hugo Chavez days. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #11 September 27, 2006 QuoteFirst of all you need to understand the events that actually got him elected are based on illegalities. He was a LTC in the Venezuelan Army, who tried to deposed an elected president by force. The constitution at the time forbade him (as he was sentenced and sent to jail) to run for president. After maneuvering the legalities, and based on lies, this guy is elected and changed the constitution. If any of your family memebers were subject to demagogue eminent domain, Cuban style, besides ruining a country, in a manner where poverty and crime has risen to levels close to those in Iraq (check the date rates of both countries on the CIA fact book), then you would think otherwise. He has masquerade a dictatorship under a false attempt of democracy, what is worse, Jimmy Carter help legitimized a referendum where he was clearly defeated. Jimmy Carter is such a moron. Anyway to add to your point about the imaginary democracy there. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=14806 I am still waiting to hear when Hugo Chavez tries to rewrite the Venezuelan constitution to leave himself in control indefinately. We know Castro did this and Evo Morales has already been trying to in Bolivia. Then again as long as Chavez can keep stealing the elections he won't need to rewrite the constitution.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #12 September 27, 2006 Very few people here understand what has happened in Venezuela... that is pretty obvious by the amount of people who seem to think he's some kind of lefty hero. Pure ignorance. Some of my closest friends here are from Venezuela and they have hundreds of stories to tell you about Chavez and what Venezuela used to be before he slipped in and sunk his hooks in. The funny thing is... every single Venezuelan I know wants to know when we'll invade Venezuela to get rid of the bastard. So for those who think he might not be all that bad... Read up.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #13 September 27, 2006 Sadly he already did in 2000. For the last 6 years he has completely changed the democratic institution in that country."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #14 September 27, 2006 They only hear partial information. I was born there, and got my BS degree down there. The one common denominator is that when anyone hates Bush, then they will be considered friends by most lefties. They have no idea how many people have been executed in Venezuela already. No one made comments about the death rates being the same as in Iraq. Isn't it funny when people ignore these type of comments?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #15 September 27, 2006 That works! 7-11's contract with Citgo runs-out, next week. For what it's worth, I never have purchased Citgo gas or any other Citgo product. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpinfarmer 0 #16 September 28, 2006 GoodIt's about time someone started to realise he is an Ass Hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #17 September 28, 2006 I don't like the Bush administration , but I still think Chavez is an asshole. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
valjumps46 0 #18 September 28, 2006 QuoteI cut my Citgo card in little pieces the day Chavez ran our President down at the UN. No more bozo money for you Hugo. yeah didnt they give him a standing ovaation?"I'm going to marry my novels and have short stories for children." BLuE sKiES & aPpLE PIeS oh and I'm "M" A-ZIng Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #19 September 28, 2006 I never buy gas at Citgo, either, even though it's the closest gas station to my house.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #20 September 28, 2006 QuoteI never buy gas at Citgo, either, even though it's the closest gas station to my house. ________________________________ It seems like, anything we buy now days, we're supporting either some other country or some 'cause' or some crook. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #21 September 28, 2006 I'm curious as to how much money that translates to in retail and wholesale dollars. 2100 gas stations lost in a market is going to make a pinch of some degree.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #22 September 28, 2006 QuoteFirst of all you need to understand the events that actually got him elected are based on illegalities. He was a LTC in the Venezuelan Army, who tried to deposed an elected president by force. The constitution at the time forbade him (as he was sentenced and sent to jail) to run for president. After maneuvering the legalities, and based on lies, this guy is elected and changed the constitution. If any of your family memebers were subject to demagogue eminent domain, Cuban style, besides ruining a country, in a manner where poverty and crime has risen to levels close to those in Iraq (check the date rates of both countries on the CIA fact book), then you would think otherwise. He has masquerade a dictatorship under a false attempt of democracy, what is worse, Jimmy Carter help legitimized a referendum where he was clearly defeated. I didn't have any time to read up on him last night because we have a one week old future skydiver that's setting the itinerary. But I'll have to say that his politics are not likely the basis for US condemnation. We have a history of overthrowing democracies that we don't approve of and we ignore or even support brutal regimes and dictatorships if it's perceived to be in the best interest of the US or a multinational campaign donor. That's why the cynic in me thinks that the real reason that we don't like him probably has more to do with the way he handles his country's oil resources. He's repeatedly spoken about how the US could cut out the middle man so-to-speak with regard to getting oil to the US consumer more cheaply. I think that the "middle man" is probably pissed. Well, that and his lambasting of what he perceives to be the US's global imperialism and the lack of any real democracy in the UN. But that's just my hunch. He may very well be an asshole dictator to his people but I have to admit that he has expressed some valid observations. The nature of his rise to power and abuse of his Constitution can't be the reason that we're against him. We don't have to go south to find examples of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #23 September 28, 2006 Maybe you need to check your facts then before declaring agreement with someone like Chavez. There are elections there on Dec 3rd, he plans to change the constitution even further to allow the state have the right over parents on what should be tought on schools. There currently 50% or more of public education teachers that are from Cuba, basically brain washing kids to a new history, and about the Bolivarian revolution. The middle class has shifted down, and again, death rates in the country are 0.38 per thousand less than Current Iraq's rate. I would recommend that before you start a discussion, you should replace your "hunch" with facts, and find out who the man is. From a promising country that has all the natural resources imaginable and was a leading economy in South America, has become more or less a 3rd world country under even Guyana. Read about his bolivarian circles, where he armed fanatics, or talk to any Venezuelan like myself and get an opinion on what goes on over there. The nature of his rise of power is not a reason, but he began his government already claiming things against the US. He allied himself with Saddam H. Gadaffi, and Castro at the very begining of his adminstration. He was the first head of state to visit Saddam in an official visit from another head of state since GWI ended. What kind of message does that tell you? Do you know he controls the TV stations there? at any given time he can interrupt the programing and give speaches about hate and further dividing the social classes for hours on end, and I mean over 4. The thing is that I believe you like him is because of his hate towards GWB, like many liberals in this country. Hate before reason."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #24 September 28, 2006 I've been pissed at 7-11 ever since they quit selling Playboy. Guess this makes up for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #25 September 28, 2006 That's a valid reason!!!!"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
