Lucky... 0 #1 September 27, 2006 http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/amnesty.html#1986 Regan and Bush1 both signed amnesty bills, and one of them turned out to be a 93 WTC terrorist. How do ya like them apples? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #2 September 27, 2006 Quote How do ya like them apples? Take of the Democrat rose colored glasses genius. QuoteNo. 3 - Section 245(i) Extension Amnesty of 1997 President Clinton twice signed continuing resolutions to extend the September 30, 1997 expiration date of Section 245(i). The first continuing resolution extended the deadline until October 23, 1997 and the second continuing resolution extended Section 245(i) until November 7, 1997. Section 245(i) was then further extended until January 14, 1998 by Congress as part of the conference report to H.R. 2267. Go back to the top of the page No. 4 - NACARA Amnesty of 1997 The Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) is an amnesty program for certain Nicaraguans and Cubans, and a de facto amnesty for certain Salvadorans, Guatemalans and Eastern Europeans. The original bills that were introduced in the House and the Senate, H.R. 2302 and S. 1976, would have benefited only certain Nicaraguans, Salvadorans and Guatemalans. Cubans and Eastern Europeans were added later to mollify the anti-Communist sentiments of some members of Congress. At the same time, opponents of the amnesty tried to negotiate a requirement that the number of aliens granted legal residence under NACARA be subtracted from legal immigration ceilings, but managed only to secure minor reductions in the unskilled worker and lottery categories. In order to avoid lengthy debate on the costs and benefits of the amnesty and to ensure adequate support for it, the bill language was added as an amendment to the appropriations bill for the District of Columbia (H.R. 2607) and passed as part of that bill. Nicaraguans and Cubans who have lived in the United States illegally since 1995, along with their spouses and unmarried children, were automatically granted legal resident status under NACARA, as long as they apply by April 1, 2000. The 10-year impact of the NACARA Amnesty on U.S. population growth is estimated to be 966,480. For the computation of the total number of immigrants to be added by this amnesty, click here. Go back to the top of the page No. 5 - HRIFA Amnesty of 1998 The Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act (HRIFA) is an amnesty program for Haitians. It was passed in the aftermath of the Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA), when representatives of a long list of nationalities not included in NACARA claimed that it was discriminatory to refuse them the same special treatment. Haitians are the first group to succeed with this claim. As with NACARA, proponents of HRIFA sought to avoid a full congressional debate of the bill and so added it as an amendment to the omnibus appropriations bill for fiscal year 1999 (H.R. 4328), which was passed by both houses of Congress. HRIFA grants permanent resident status to any Haitians who have been in the United States since December 1995, along with their spouses and children, as long as they apply before April 1, 2000. Haitians granted amnesty under HRIFA will not be counted against legal immigration ceilings, and no legal immigration ceilings will be reduced to make up for the extra number of permanent immigrants. The 10-year impact of the Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act on U.S. Population growth is estimated to be 125,000. For the computation of the total number of immigrants to be added by this amnesty, click here. Go back to the top of the page No. 6 - Late Amnesty of 2000 This amnesty was the result of an agreement between the Clinton White House, Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, and Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert. The "late amnesty" allowed all illegal aliens who had been part of lawsuits claiming that they have been illegal aliens since before 1982 and should have received amnesty under the 1986 IRCA amnesty but for various reasons were denied, to renew their request for the amnesty. The Late Amnesty of 2000 is expected to apply to an estimated 400,000 illegal aliens. Go back to the top of the page No. 7- LIFE Act Amnesty of 2000 The LIFE Act of 2000 that was passed in December, 2000 reinstated Section 245(i) for the first four months of 2001 (Jan-April). The House Immigration Subcommittee estimates that 900,000 aliens applied for adjustment of status in the first full year of the reinstatement. Pretty bad when you tout an article as damning to republicans but fail to read it in it's entirety. You ARE proceeding in true Dem fashion though. Quoteand one of them turned out to be a 93 WTC terrorist. How do ya like them apples? And Clinton signed it AGAIN...........AFTER the bombing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #3 September 27, 2006 Quotehttp://www.numbersusa.com/interests/amnesty.html#1986 Regan and Bush1 both signed amnesty bills, and one of them turned out to be a 93 WTC terrorist. How do ya like them apples? I like them better than Clinton pardoning bombers to gain support for his wife's senatorial campaign....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #4 September 27, 2006 Wait wait wait.............or was your argument that "Hey look........Democrats aren't the only ones that do dumb shit!"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #5 September 27, 2006 Right, genius, the thread is entitled, "Amnesty; it's not just for Democrats anymore........... " Perhaps you could read and comprehend that before throwing the fingers in motion. Not just for Democrats infers to normal people of reasonable intelligence that the Democrats are known for it, but it's not just for them, hence others are doing it. I think it could be inferred that the others would be the Republicans. Is this hard to figure? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #6 September 27, 2006 QuoteQuotehttp://www.numbersusa.com/interests/amnesty.html#1986 Regan and Bush1 both signed amnesty bills, and one of them turned out to be a 93 WTC terrorist. How do ya like them apples? I like them better than Clinton pardoning bombers to gain support for his wife's senatorial campaign.... How is it that CLinton did this to gain support for his wife's campaign? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #7 September 27, 2006 QuoteWait wait wait.............or was your argument that "Hey look........Democrats aren't the only ones that do dumb shit!"? WOW, you're pretty sharp. Come on and join us in the long school bus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #8 September 27, 2006 ***I think it could be inferred that the others would be the Republicans. Is this hard to figure? *** Could be...........but hey this is SC. No assumptions allowed. There's a FEW parties to choose from. http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #9 September 27, 2006 >Come on and join us in the long school bus. Enough already. If you can't make your point without veiled attacks, best to keep it to yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #10 September 27, 2006 Quotehttp://www.numbersusa.com/interests/amnesty.html#1986 Regan and Bush1 both signed amnesty bills, and one of them turned out to be a 93 WTC terrorist. How do ya like them apples? Just because you're getting information 10, 20 years after the fact, that doesn't mean the rest of us are equally slow. And one other thing - there's a big difference between laws that are enacted by Congress that affect millions (allowing a few baddies to slip through the cracks) and individual pardons of criminals like Carlos Vignali and Marc Rich. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #11 September 28, 2006 QuoteQuotehttp://www.numbersusa.com/interests/amnesty.html#1986 Regan and Bush1 both signed amnesty bills, and one of them turned out to be a 93 WTC terrorist. How do ya like them apples? Just because you're getting information 10, 20 years after the fact, that doesn't mean the rest of us are equally slow. And one other thing - there's a big difference between laws that are enacted by Congress that affect millions (allowing a few baddies to slip through the cracks) and individual pardons of criminals like Carlos Vignali and Marc Rich. Quote..that doesn't mean the rest of us are equally slow. Not that you're worried, but personal attacks are allowed upon me, so fire away.... 1-way street. QuoteJust because you're getting information 10, 20 years after the fact... I'm not just now getting it, it's a hotbed issue so I'm bringing up that both parties do it, but for different reasons. The Dems like to be bleeding hearts, the Repubs like to exploit labor. Either way, they both do it. I don;t see Repubs addressing that issue. QuoteAnd one other thing - there's a big difference between laws that are enacted by Congress that affect millions (allowing a few baddies to slip through the cracks) and individual pardons of criminals like Carlos Vignali and Marc Rich You're right, now explain who pardoned Tokyo Rose. I doubt you know so do research (hint: start at Ford - the same guy who pardoned Nixon). BTW, Reagan pardoned about as many as Clinton, but teh Bush's haven;t pardoned many. I believe that Bush will pardon the Enron/Worldcom/etc guys as he leaves office, which is why that one turd (forgot his name) just checked into prison for 25 years. If he thought he would have to serve it all he would abscond or create his death like Lay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #12 September 28, 2006 Quote>Come on and join us in the long school bus. Enough already. If you can't make your point without veiled attacks, best to keep it to yourself. Bill, I will keep it clean, but I ask that you police the others at the same time. Freeflier started in with: “Take of the Democrat rose colored glasses genius.” So I volleyed back with the same. Then he replied with an insult, so I did too. He also edited out something from his first post. We’ve been exchanging insults, not only in this thread but others. Bill, I just ask that you police everyone equally - I will abide by the rules of the open forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #13 September 28, 2006 QuoteQuoteJust because you're getting information 10, 20 years after the fact... I'm not just now getting it, it's a hotbed issue so I'm bringing up that both parties do it, but for different reasons. The Dems like to be bleeding hearts, the Repubs like to exploit labor. Either way, they both do it. I don;t see Repubs addressing that issue. Are you saying Republicans are claiming they've never supported amnesty? Sounds like you're attaching stereotypical labels to a current issue, even though they don't apply. Or did I miss where whole amnesty effort is being labelled as a strictly Democratic cause? QuoteQuoteAnd one other thing - there's a big difference between laws that are enacted by Congress that affect millions (allowing a few baddies to slip through the cracks) and individual pardons of criminals like Carlos Vignali and Marc Rich You're right, now explain who pardoned Tokyo Rose. I doubt you know so do research (hint: start at Ford - the same guy who pardoned Nixon). BTW, Reagan pardoned about as many as Clinton, but teh Bush's haven;t pardoned many. I believe that Bush will pardon the Enron/Worldcom/etc guys as he leaves office, which is why that one turd (forgot his name) just checked into prison for 25 years. If he thought he would have to serve it all he would abscond or create his death like Lay. Funny thing about Iva Toguri D'Aquino aka Tokyo Rose - It turns out she never did anything wrong. But she got on Walter Winchell's sh&t list, which resulted in the public demanding "justice". During her trial, American POWs testified that they liked her and that she never said any of the negative stuff, as claimed by our military. She was a scapegoat. Gerald Ford's pardon was quite just. Love how you compare the number of pardons - Clinton vs. Reagan - while conveniently overlooking my point, which was Clinton pardoned a known drug trafficker and a man who illegally made oil deals with Iran during the hostage crisis. Real scum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites