Art dangerous to Fifth Graders?

[Amazon 7]

Guess its not the FRISCO.. most of us are used to huh.


Yup.. anyone that dares teach anything beyond the 3 R's.... better look out...

Children should NEVER be subjected to anything beyond the 3 R's

[justinb138 0]

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Guess its not the FRISCO.. most of us are used to huh.

Nope, it's the Frisco just to the west of Dallas.

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Yup.. anyone that dares teach anything beyond the 3 R's.... better look out...

Children should NEVER be subjected to anything beyond the 3 R's

3 R's?

[billvon 3,132]

>3 R's?

readin ritin rithmetic

[Rebecca 0]

Readin', 'Ritin' & 'Rithmetic.

edit: I didn't do so gud on tha second one...

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

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Yup.. anyone that dares teach anything beyond the 3 R's.... better look out...

Children should NEVER be subjected to anything beyond the 3 R's

ARE YOU INSANE?!?

Do you have any idea what a corrupting influence READING can be to a child?!?

Oh my -od! You do realize you can't even trust them with certain passages of the Bible; do you? All that begat this and begat that. People having s-e-x and whatnot.

WRITING! Oh dear no. They might write impure and dangerous thoughts!

And aRithmetic? I don't even want to start talking about that filthy, disgusting Fibonacci and his rabbits!

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[Lindsey 0]

3 R's?

Where have you been???? Reading, Riting, and Rithmetic. Remember the song???

linz

let's don't all speak up at once.....(I hate being slowest on the draw)

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[ACMESkydiver 0]

I think it's interesting that nobody at all has said 'which' exhibit was offensive.

In a museum as big as I expect the one is in Dallas, I'd guess it's like greek Goddess/God kind of statues? Who knows.

There are certain nudes, to be sure, that I wouldn't let my kids around. -You know, the kind that are intended for nothing but to arouse sexual feelings -like bondage porn etc. I have nothing against that kind of art, but my 5th grader doesn't need to see it. I HIGHLY doubt, however, that such a public art museum would have anything of that kind.

This whole thing seems nutty...I wonder why the school district is out to get this chick?

~Jaye
Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action.

[lawrocket 3]

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Didn't you know that the worst thing you can do to a child is expose them to the human body?

Oh my -od (emphasis added)

Great point, Paul. Maybe the students should pray for her, but they better not do it at school.

We all know that the worst thing you can do to a child is expose a child to the concept of religion.

Again, my point is - religious zealots have that which they find unacceptable. Secular zealots have that which they find unacceptable.

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[Shell666 0]

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Sounds like they were gunning for her anyway, the way the story's written.

That's how I read it too.

Now I'm not sure how it works "south of the border" but up here, if your kids are being taken off school property for a field trip, the parents have to sign an authorization form allowing them to go. If that's the case down there, why'd the parents say their kid could go if they thought it could be "harmful"??

'Shell

'Shell

[Lindsey 0]

Great point, Paul. Maybe the students should pray for her, but they better not do it at school

HA! Reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw that said:

"Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church"

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

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Again, my point is - religious zealots have that which they find unacceptable. Secular zealots have that which they find unacceptable.

Nice catch of my "-od" btw, didn't think anybody would notice.

Anyway, can we both agree that extremists should probably just go off by themselves and leave the rest of us alone?

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[lawrocket 3]

Yes we can, Paul. The problem is that the extremists on both sides typically don't like to do that. Of cours,e if they do go off on their own, we call it a cult that needs to be managed.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

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We all know that the worst thing you can do to a child is expose a child to the concept of religion.

Actually, this IS one of the things I've been thinking about for quite some time and lemme ask you if you think it's worthy of an entirely separate thread; "Why is it that from birth we tell children not to lie, but we don't do such a great job at that ourselves?"

To wit;

Easter Bunny
Santa Claus
"The Permanent Record"

And to another extent depending on what you really believe -- God.

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[headoverheels 334]

Well, here is Adam and Eve, before they ate that apple and realized that they were buck naked. And some nekkid heathen. Both are on exhibit at the Dallas Museum of Art.

[lisamariewillbe 1]

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Why is it that from birth we tell children not to lie, but we don't do such a great job at that ourselves?"

I said that very thing once on here, I get shit for not celebrating christmas with Santa, and easter with the easter bunny.... One other reason I dont tell my kids is because the truth to me is much better then the lie. Ive never used the permanant record one and dont plan to.

I teach my kids about God because it is my personal belief so to me it is not a lie.

Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this

[Lindsey 0]

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Easter Bunny
Santa Claus
"The Permanent Record"

And to another extent depending on what you really believe -- God.

The only answer I have for that question is an observation: Most children are light-hearted enough and flexible enough to grow up understanding that there's a difference between those lies and the ones we don't want them to tell. It's something that they're usually perceptive enough to catch subtleties in the world around them....

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How will you deal with the issue of sex and your kids?

Will you be honest and tell them it is a part of life or what?

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[lisamariewillbe 1]

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How will you deal with the issue of sex and your kids?

Ive had talks already, Im sure Ill have plenty more. Mostly the talks arent about "having sex" the talks are about bodies and what is acceptable behaviour for their age.

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Will you be honest and tell them it is a part of life or what?

Already have, sure I will again. Theres alot of aspects to sex, I have not exposed them to all of them but Ive not lied about it to my children. I do not want them to feel ashamed about themselves or about sex.

This is such a hijack... by a mod lol no less. Personally the "sex talks" really suck to say the least. Theres alot that goes into them, if they are done proper, I just hope I do them right, or at least good enough to where their thearpy costs wont be through the roof one day.

Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this

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Oh, I totally admitted to the hijack. Said so right up front, but if you think about it, it is still a bit related since the entire topic has to do with what is and is not acceptable in the form of nudity as it relates to child mental development.

My guess is that folks that are honest with their children about the human body probably wouldn't have issues with the art in the museum, but those that generally repress the discussion probably would have the biggest issues with the art.

(See! It all relates!)

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[lisamariewillbe 1]

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Oh, I totally admitted to the hijack. Said so right up front, but if you think about it, it is still a bit related since the entire topic has to do with what is and is not acceptable in the form of nudity as it relates to child mental development.

okay so maybe your hijack relates, I wont admit that.... I cant agree with a greenie

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My guess is that folks that are honest with their children about the human body probably wouldn't have issues with the art in the museum, but those that generally repress the discussion probably would have the biggest issues with the art.

Well I guess it would depend on the art.... the nekkid form are no big deal... a body is a body.... they either have the parts or they dont. However art is a very loose term... porn magazines can be considered as art, and no I wont expose my child to that, Im sure if they want that they will find a way to see it. Also some art is pornographic in a similar way but not in porn magazines, I wouldnt proactivley show or allow my child to see two people engaged in sexual acts as to me personally that is past the line.

Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this

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Also some art is pornographic in a similar way but not in porn magazines, I wouldnt proactivley show or allow my child to see two people engaged in sexual acts as to me personally that is past the line.

But where -does- one draw the line?

My feeling is that THIS -should- be acceptable to vitually anyone (however I do know better).

THESE might be a bit provocative but can't really be considered pornographic by any "reasonable" standard.

THIS couldn't be considered pornographic by any means, yet what it represents probably does.

Hmmm, interesting.

I dunno. Glad I'm not a parent and have to actually figure it out. Still do have to deal with people that were "scarred for life" as a result though.

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[Lindsey 0]

I don't think any of it's "dangerous." May provide an opportunity for an unplanned discussion at home, but I don't think there's much along those lines that I'd get bent out of shape about my child seeing. He's watched the cows doing it at the farm....lol. I think he gets the idea....

The things I don't want him seeing are things that are overly violent.

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[Cudlo 0]

bleh. I remember in high school some girl didnt get the part she wanted in a play. The parents actually threatened to sue the school. The administration forced the theater department to cast her in the role she wanted. Of course, all of her costume pieces mysteriously went missing the night of the first performance. Ain't karma a bitch.

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[Lindsey 0]

That's a great tangent! I just can't figure out what it's tangent to....Parents too up tight?

Yep....karma's a bitch. :)

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[pirana 0]

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. . . maybe if you wrote me and told a bit about your fantasies that you are repressing, it might help - I'm a giver

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