billvon 3,120 #26 September 19, 2006 >Too bad they're not getting the same airtime as the violent >douche bags... whose fault is that? Ours. Which holds your attention longer - coverage of a bombing in Iraq or Israel, or a dour-faced cleric reading a statement against such violent acts? TV news doesn't cover what's important, or what's news. They cover what people want to see, so that people watch their shows. Then their ratings go up, advertisers pay more for ad time, and they make more money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #27 September 19, 2006 >I'd love to know how many of the imams in those local mosques > were urging peace and understanding before their adherents went > out and rioted/burned. No one from our local mosque has ever rioted or blown up anything. They have pretty regular peace protests in Balboa Park. >Contrast that with Robertson...for all his talk, his parishioners >didn't stream out of the church to burn the local mosque, and >you well know it. Well: a) he doesn't have a local parish b) some of his TV parishioners are in Iraq right now shooting muslims. It's their job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #28 September 19, 2006 Quotehttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23367232-details/The+Pope+must+die%2C+says+Muslim/article.do Quote A notorious Muslim extremist told a demonstration in London yesterday that the Pope should face execution. Anjem Choudary said those who insulted Islam would be "subject to capital punishment". Such a peaceful religion... Guess they don't have "turn the other cheek" in their holy book. What amazes me is that some Muslims pay more attention to the Pope than most Catholics. IMHO the world would be a much better place w/o religion. I'm sick of religious extremist and all the hatred they bring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #29 September 19, 2006 QuoteNo one from our local mosque has ever rioted or blown up anything. They have pretty regular peace protests in Balboa Park. Was the imam in your local mosque calling for fatwa? Quote Well: a) he doesn't have a local parish And regardless...did the studio audience riot in the streets and burn mosques in the local neighborhood? Quoteb) some of his TV parishioners are in Iraq right now shooting muslims. It's their job. Strawman... they're soldiers, not Knights TemplarMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #30 September 19, 2006 QuoteWhat amazes me is that some Muslims pay more attention to the Pope than most Catholic. I find that surprising also. Of course, the individual in question probably didn't even read what the Pope said in its entirety, and only extracted a short passage, totally out of context. Merely a pretext for "rallying the troops." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #31 September 19, 2006 >Was the imam in your local mosque calling for fatwa? Yes. They echoed the Fiqh Council of North America fatwa on terrorism. From that fatwa: "There is no justification in Islam for extremism or terrorism. Targeting civilians’ life and property through suicide bombings or any other method of attack is haraam — or forbidden." >did the studio audience riot in the streets and burn mosques in >the local neighborhood? ?? What are you talking about? Are you asking if they burned Hugo Chavez's mosques? He's not muslim, he's christian. (And he's who Robertson wanted killed.) Do you mean did they burn down christian churches? Should they burn their own? Sounds silly, doesn't it? The point here is that he's an extremist, and that it is not the christian (or muslim) religion that's to blame - it's the extremism that calls for assassination, suicide bombings and war. If we were in Thailand and the Tamil Tigers were attacking us, Mark Harju would be posting stuff saying "Godless atheists show they have no morals," conflating atheism and evil the same way many are conflating islam and evil now. But it's not atheism, or islam, or christianity - it is the extremism that uses violence to achieve its ends that we are at odds with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #32 September 19, 2006 Mike there is big point that you’re not considering. How many of Pat Robertson’s followers have had there home destroyed by US military? How many of them know of someone whose life has been dramatically changed for the worst or taken because of the actions of the US government? Keep in mind our president is very openly Christian and God does speak to him according to his own account. It is easy to be peaceful when your going to star bucks every morning and getting your cup of coffee drop a few bombs aim only at the Christian extremists and we will see how peaceful they are.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #33 September 19, 2006 QuoteIf we were in Thailand and the Tamil Tigers were attacking us, Mark Harju would be posting stuff saying... Bad form, especially for a moderator. However, I'm glad that libs are making the moral comparisons. Makes it much easier for them to keep losing elections.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #34 September 19, 2006 QuoteQuote>The difference is that the local Presbyterian church isn't running >through the streets attacking Muslims and burning mosques en mass. Neither is the local mosque. You're being obtuse, Bill. I'd love to know how many of the imams in those local mosques were urging peace and understanding before their adherents went out and rioted/burned. Contrast that with Robertson...for all his talk, his parishioners didn't stream out of the church to burn the local mosque, and you well know it. A lot of mosques were attacked in the USA following 9/11. Minneapolis and Memphis are two that I remember. I doubt it was Muslims doing the attacking.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #35 September 19, 2006 QuoteHow many of Pat Robertson’s followers have had there home destroyed by US military? How many of them know of someone whose life has been dramatically changed for the worst or taken because of the actions of the US government? How many of the countries that the riots are occurring in has the US bombed good devout muslims??? Last time I checked its been awhile since we bombed Kashmir( like Never) Or Iran( maybe its time) because they will NOT hesitate to send one of their surrogates once they achieve nuclear weapons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #36 September 19, 2006 QuoteOr Iran( maybe its time) because they will NOT hesitate to send one of their surrogates once they achieve nuclear weapons. How did you reach that conclusion? I know you are always ready for a fight but calm down and stop having knee jerk reactions. According to the UN (which was right about Iraq) Iran does not have weapons and are not even close to having weapons so don’t worry and get out of the bomb shelter. You know I was watching a special on shark attacks. There is a lot of hysteria about sharks attacks in FL a few years ago people were terrified of the “killer sharks”. Unfortunately the truth is we kill about a million times more sharks then they kill people. Yes the sharks are scary and are easy to pick on but the truth is we are the true ruthless killers. In this conflict Muslims are the sharks, and the US and its allies are the ones having shark fin soup.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #37 September 19, 2006 QuoteIn this conflict Muslims are the sharks, and the US and its allies are the ones having shark fin soup. and in this conflict, the Pope would be a vegetarian. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #38 September 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteIn this conflict Muslims are the sharks, and the US and its allies are the ones having shark fin soup. and in this conflict, the Pope would be a vegetarian. He is a vegetarian screaming watch out for sharks they will eat us all.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #39 September 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteIn this conflict Muslims are the sharks, and the US and its allies are the ones having shark fin soup. and in this conflict, the Pope would be a vegetarian. He is a vegetarian screaming quoting someone else from the Middle Ages screaming watch out for sharks they will eat us all. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #40 September 19, 2006 Even veggies are allowed to read aloud from the BBQ menu (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #41 September 19, 2006 Some religious leaders merely quote passages from the Middle Ages. Other religious leaders live in the Middle Ages. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #42 September 19, 2006 QuoteIn this conflict Muslims are the sharks, and the US and its allies are the ones having shark fin soup. Actually, they're the Sharks, and we're the Jets. You had to be there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #43 September 19, 2006 ha?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StreetScooby 5 #44 September 19, 2006 Quote Some religious leaders merely quote passages from the Middle Ages. Other religious leaders live in the Middle Ages. Well put! We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #45 September 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteIn this conflict Muslims are the sharks, and the US and its allies are the ones having shark fin soup. and in this conflict, the Pope would be a vegetarian. He is a vegetarian screaming watch out for sharks they will eat us all. I can't believe you just typed that. Wait. Yes I can. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #46 September 19, 2006 QuoteQuote Some religious leaders merely quote passages from the Middle Ages. Other religious leaders live in the Middle Ages. Well put! I second that! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #47 September 19, 2006 QuoteOther religious leaders live in the Middle Ages. And will kill anyone who does not agree with their desire to have everyone ELSE live there with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #48 September 19, 2006 Quoteha? Like I said, you had to be there. Ok, it's a reference to West Side Story. The Jets? The Sharks? You know: "When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way, from your first cigarette to your last dying day.." You know? [ Darius: ] Sigh. Never mind. I am so alone... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #49 September 19, 2006 oh, some of us got it. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Stumpy 284 #50 September 19, 2006 yep - made me smile...Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
shropshire 0 #40 September 19, 2006 Even veggies are allowed to read aloud from the BBQ menu (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #41 September 19, 2006 Some religious leaders merely quote passages from the Middle Ages. Other religious leaders live in the Middle Ages. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #42 September 19, 2006 QuoteIn this conflict Muslims are the sharks, and the US and its allies are the ones having shark fin soup. Actually, they're the Sharks, and we're the Jets. You had to be there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #43 September 19, 2006 ha?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #44 September 19, 2006 Quote Some religious leaders merely quote passages from the Middle Ages. Other religious leaders live in the Middle Ages. Well put! We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #45 September 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteIn this conflict Muslims are the sharks, and the US and its allies are the ones having shark fin soup. and in this conflict, the Pope would be a vegetarian. He is a vegetarian screaming watch out for sharks they will eat us all. I can't believe you just typed that. Wait. Yes I can. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #46 September 19, 2006 QuoteQuote Some religious leaders merely quote passages from the Middle Ages. Other religious leaders live in the Middle Ages. Well put! I second that! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #47 September 19, 2006 QuoteOther religious leaders live in the Middle Ages. And will kill anyone who does not agree with their desire to have everyone ELSE live there with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #48 September 19, 2006 Quoteha? Like I said, you had to be there. Ok, it's a reference to West Side Story. The Jets? The Sharks? You know: "When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way, from your first cigarette to your last dying day.." You know? [ Darius: ] Sigh. Never mind. I am so alone... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #49 September 19, 2006 oh, some of us got it. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #50 September 19, 2006 yep - made me smile...Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
