warpedskydiver 0 #1 September 17, 2006 Italian Nun Shot Dead by Somali Gunmen Sunday, September 17, 2006 9:13 AM EDT The Associated Press MOHAMED SHEIKH NOR MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) — An Italian nun was shot dead at a hospital by Somali gunmen Sunday, hours after a leading Muslim cleric condemned Pope Benedict XVI for his remarks on Islam and violence. The nun, who was not immediately identified, was shot in the back at S.O.S. Hospital in northern Mogadishu by two gunmen, said Mohamed Yusuf, a doctor at the facility, which serves mothers and children. The nun's bodyguard and a hospital worker were also killed, doctors said. There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attack, and it was not clear if it was directly linked to the pope's comments. Two people had been arrested, said Yusuf Mohamed Siad, head of security for the Islamic militia that controls Mogadishu. Earlier Sunday, a Somali cleric criticized the comments the pope made in a speech last week for offending Muslims. The pope had cited the words of a Byzantine emperor who characterized some of the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, Islam's founder, as "evil and inhuman." "The pope's statement at this time was not only wrong but irresponsible as well," said Sheik Nor Barud, deputy leader of the Somali Muslim Scholars Association. "Both the Pope and the Byzantine Emperor he quoted are ignorant of Islam and it is noble Prophet," he told journalists at a news conference in the capital Mogadishu. In Rome, Vatican spokesman Rev. Federico Lombardi called the nun's slaying "a horrible episode," the Italian news agency ANSA said. "Let's hope that it will be an isolated fact." Lombardi indicated the shooting could be related to the uproar over the pope's remarks. "We are following with concern the consequences of this wave of hate, hoping that it does not lead to grave consequences for the church in the world," he was quoted as saying. Benedict apologized earlier Sunday for the angry reaction to his remarks, which he said came from a text that didn't reflect his personal opinion. Witnesses also said the shooting and the pope's comments appeared to be linked. "These gunmen always look for white people to kill, and now the pope gave them the reason to do their worst," said Mohamud Durguf Derow, who was at the scene when the nun was killed. The nun, who spoke fluent Somali, was believed to be around 60 and had been working at the hospital since 2002, said witnesses at the hospital on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals. Somalia has been without an effective central government since warlords overthrew it's longtime dictator in 1991 and divided the nation into fiefdoms. The Islamic fundamentalists have stepped into the vacuum as an alternative military and political power. The current interim government was established two years ago with the support of the United Nations, but has failed to assert any power outside its base in Baidoa, 150 miles from Mogadishu. The Islamic group, which seized the capital and much of southern Somalia this summer, is credited with bringing a semblance of order to the country after years of anarchy, but some of its leaders have been linked to al-Qaida and there are fears of an emerging Taliban-style regime.Quote Anyone who would kill a nun is a worthless POS and a waste of skin, I would gladly put them to death in a horrible, slow, painful way I wonder if they are viewed as "real big men" around town now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #2 September 17, 2006 And so it begins... first church burnings then assassinations of nuns... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #3 September 17, 2006 Unfortunately, it hasn't just begun... we've just entered another chapter in the same (long) book. Innocents are being killed everyday (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #4 September 17, 2006 That cannot be...Islam is a religion of peace. If they keep continuing with shit like this, they will start to get push-back from those that would wage their own "Christianic" jihad against them. That is the last thing this world needs.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #5 September 17, 2006 EXACTLY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rebecca 0 #6 September 17, 2006 "You're SO wrong! How dare you say that some guy said that Muhammad taught us anything evil or inhumane!! I protest!" Yes. This gets the point across much better. WTFO? you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #7 September 17, 2006 I am wrong that this may inspire another crusade? I am very sorry if you don't care but I do. The last time that happened a whole lotta people died. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rebecca 0 #8 September 17, 2006 I was actually just commenting on the effectiveness of using evil and inhuman violence to protest a perceived accusation of evil and inhuman teachings. I care a great deal. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #9 September 17, 2006 OkSorry I am just worried about a missing person and not feeling like my usual self. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #10 September 17, 2006 QuoteAnd so it begins... first church burnings then assassinations of nuns... While I will openly admit that I'm not a big fan of the Catholic Church (or any other man made religion), I have to say that I don't see Catholics (or any other religious group) killing and rioting when insults are hurled their way. WTF is wrong with Muslims? Why are they so intolerant of those different from themselves. They are like spoiled children who go on temper tantrums when they don't get their way. We sure as hell can't kill them. Not only are there billions of them out there, but killing them would amount to genocide. But we sure as hell are having a hard time trying to co-exist with them. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #11 September 17, 2006 Last time? - It's still running its course... it started when the chimp man attacked another country for no reason. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,148 #12 September 17, 2006 QuoteLast time? - It's still running its course... it started when the chimp man attacked another country for no reason. Please don't write about the President in that way. At least some of the pictures were Photoshopped.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #13 September 17, 2006 Well I'm not about to apologise, it's not the fashionable thing to do (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rasmack 0 #14 September 17, 2006 Quote Well I'm not about to apologise, it's not the fashionable thing to do Well, invade another country then. How about France?HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,148 #15 September 17, 2006 QuoteQuote Well I'm not about to apologise, it's not the fashionable thing to do Well, invade another country then. How about France? France has been done recently. Spain? I think the last invader there was Wellington.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #16 September 17, 2006 Poor old French dont 'alf take some stick from folk on this forum . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #17 September 17, 2006 Spain gets a British and German invasion (on the coast) every summer. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #18 September 17, 2006 QuoteAt least some of the pictures were Photoshopped. Say it ain't so. There's a few classics in that collection. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites miked10270 0 #19 September 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteAt least some of the pictures were Photoshopped. Say it ain't so. There's a few classics in that collection. I'm afraid that almost half of them were! It's quite obvious when you look at the chimp pics! It's the chump pics that are unaltered. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #20 September 17, 2006 QuoteI don't see Catholics ... killing and rioting when insults are hurled their way. You haven't met my mother-in-law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #21 September 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteI don't see Catholics ... killing and rioting when insults are hurled their way. You haven't met my mother-in-law. LOL!!! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #22 September 17, 2006 Ah yes, the "religion of peace" strikes again. What courageous and pious men they must be to shoot a nun in the back. The worst part of it is that women and children at the hospital will be deprived of this nun's care. The holy men with the rifles sure as hell won't be caring for them, especially since their religion calls for basically treating women like cattle in the first place. I hope the Pope publicly proclaims this poor woman a martyr for her faith. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,148 #23 September 17, 2006 QuoteAh yes, the "religion of peace" strikes again. What courageous and pious men they must be to shoot a nun in the back. The worst part of it is that women and children at the hospital will be deprived of this nun's care. The holy men with the rifles sure as hell won't be caring for them, especially since their religion calls for basically treating women like cattle in the first place. I hope the Pope publicly proclaims this poor woman a martyr for her faith. Were you equally incensed by IRA atrocities committed by so-called Roman Catholics?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites micro 0 #24 September 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteAh yes, the "religion of peace" strikes again. What courageous and pious men they must be to shoot a nun in the back. The worst part of it is that women and children at the hospital will be deprived of this nun's care. The holy men with the rifles sure as hell won't be caring for them, especially since their religion calls for basically treating women like cattle in the first place. I hope the Pope publicly proclaims this poor woman a martyr for her faith. Were you equally incensed by IRA atrocities committed by so-called Roman Catholics? I sure as hell was!!! How dare they gun down and bomb and otherwise destroy the lives of fellow Christians in the name of their own brand of faith! It's f*cking absurd and makes my blood boil. And I feel the exact same, THE EXACT SAME when a so-called "pro-lifer" kills an abortionist. It positively incenses (sp?) me to see such killing in the name of God. I personally like what the late Cardinal O'Connor said about such madness... he said he'd rather someone kill HIM than they kill (in this instance) an abortionist. That was the best way he could describe his outrage at such insanity. Does that spell it out clear enough for you? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,148 #25 September 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteAh yes, the "religion of peace" strikes again. What courageous and pious men they must be to shoot a nun in the back. The worst part of it is that women and children at the hospital will be deprived of this nun's care. The holy men with the rifles sure as hell won't be caring for them, especially since their religion calls for basically treating women like cattle in the first place. I hope the Pope publicly proclaims this poor woman a martyr for her faith. Were you equally incensed by IRA atrocities committed by so-called Roman Catholics? I sure as hell was!!! How dare they gun down and bomb and otherwise destroy the lives of fellow Christians in the name of their own brand of faith! It's f*cking absurd and makes my blood boil. And I feel the exact same, THE EXACT SAME when a so-called "pro-lifer" kills an abortionist. It positively incenses (sp?) me to see such killing in the name of God. I personally like what the late Cardinal O'Connor said about such madness... he said he'd rather someone kill HIM than they kill (in this instance) an abortionist. That was the best way he could describe his outrage at such insanity. Does that spell it out clear enough for you? Indeed it does. Is it possible that the Islamic nun killers are real Muslims in the same way that IRA killers are real Roman Catholics? That is to say, in name only.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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micro 0 #2 September 17, 2006 And so it begins... first church burnings then assassinations of nuns... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 September 17, 2006 Unfortunately, it hasn't just begun... we've just entered another chapter in the same (long) book. Innocents are being killed everyday (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #4 September 17, 2006 That cannot be...Islam is a religion of peace. If they keep continuing with shit like this, they will start to get push-back from those that would wage their own "Christianic" jihad against them. That is the last thing this world needs.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #5 September 17, 2006 EXACTLY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #6 September 17, 2006 "You're SO wrong! How dare you say that some guy said that Muhammad taught us anything evil or inhumane!! I protest!" Yes. This gets the point across much better. WTFO? you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #7 September 17, 2006 I am wrong that this may inspire another crusade? I am very sorry if you don't care but I do. The last time that happened a whole lotta people died. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #8 September 17, 2006 I was actually just commenting on the effectiveness of using evil and inhuman violence to protest a perceived accusation of evil and inhuman teachings. I care a great deal. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #9 September 17, 2006 OkSorry I am just worried about a missing person and not feeling like my usual self. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #10 September 17, 2006 QuoteAnd so it begins... first church burnings then assassinations of nuns... While I will openly admit that I'm not a big fan of the Catholic Church (or any other man made religion), I have to say that I don't see Catholics (or any other religious group) killing and rioting when insults are hurled their way. WTF is wrong with Muslims? Why are they so intolerant of those different from themselves. They are like spoiled children who go on temper tantrums when they don't get their way. We sure as hell can't kill them. Not only are there billions of them out there, but killing them would amount to genocide. But we sure as hell are having a hard time trying to co-exist with them. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #11 September 17, 2006 Last time? - It's still running its course... it started when the chimp man attacked another country for no reason. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #12 September 17, 2006 QuoteLast time? - It's still running its course... it started when the chimp man attacked another country for no reason. Please don't write about the President in that way. At least some of the pictures were Photoshopped.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #13 September 17, 2006 Well I'm not about to apologise, it's not the fashionable thing to do (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #14 September 17, 2006 Quote Well I'm not about to apologise, it's not the fashionable thing to do Well, invade another country then. How about France?HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #15 September 17, 2006 QuoteQuote Well I'm not about to apologise, it's not the fashionable thing to do Well, invade another country then. How about France? France has been done recently. Spain? I think the last invader there was Wellington.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #16 September 17, 2006 Poor old French dont 'alf take some stick from folk on this forum . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #17 September 17, 2006 Spain gets a British and German invasion (on the coast) every summer. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #18 September 17, 2006 QuoteAt least some of the pictures were Photoshopped. Say it ain't so. There's a few classics in that collection. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #19 September 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteAt least some of the pictures were Photoshopped. Say it ain't so. There's a few classics in that collection. I'm afraid that almost half of them were! It's quite obvious when you look at the chimp pics! It's the chump pics that are unaltered. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #20 September 17, 2006 QuoteI don't see Catholics ... killing and rioting when insults are hurled their way. You haven't met my mother-in-law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #21 September 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteI don't see Catholics ... killing and rioting when insults are hurled their way. You haven't met my mother-in-law. LOL!!! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #22 September 17, 2006 Ah yes, the "religion of peace" strikes again. What courageous and pious men they must be to shoot a nun in the back. The worst part of it is that women and children at the hospital will be deprived of this nun's care. The holy men with the rifles sure as hell won't be caring for them, especially since their religion calls for basically treating women like cattle in the first place. I hope the Pope publicly proclaims this poor woman a martyr for her faith. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #23 September 17, 2006 QuoteAh yes, the "religion of peace" strikes again. What courageous and pious men they must be to shoot a nun in the back. The worst part of it is that women and children at the hospital will be deprived of this nun's care. The holy men with the rifles sure as hell won't be caring for them, especially since their religion calls for basically treating women like cattle in the first place. I hope the Pope publicly proclaims this poor woman a martyr for her faith. Were you equally incensed by IRA atrocities committed by so-called Roman Catholics?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #24 September 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteAh yes, the "religion of peace" strikes again. What courageous and pious men they must be to shoot a nun in the back. The worst part of it is that women and children at the hospital will be deprived of this nun's care. The holy men with the rifles sure as hell won't be caring for them, especially since their religion calls for basically treating women like cattle in the first place. I hope the Pope publicly proclaims this poor woman a martyr for her faith. Were you equally incensed by IRA atrocities committed by so-called Roman Catholics? I sure as hell was!!! How dare they gun down and bomb and otherwise destroy the lives of fellow Christians in the name of their own brand of faith! It's f*cking absurd and makes my blood boil. And I feel the exact same, THE EXACT SAME when a so-called "pro-lifer" kills an abortionist. It positively incenses (sp?) me to see such killing in the name of God. I personally like what the late Cardinal O'Connor said about such madness... he said he'd rather someone kill HIM than they kill (in this instance) an abortionist. That was the best way he could describe his outrage at such insanity. Does that spell it out clear enough for you? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #25 September 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteAh yes, the "religion of peace" strikes again. What courageous and pious men they must be to shoot a nun in the back. The worst part of it is that women and children at the hospital will be deprived of this nun's care. The holy men with the rifles sure as hell won't be caring for them, especially since their religion calls for basically treating women like cattle in the first place. I hope the Pope publicly proclaims this poor woman a martyr for her faith. Were you equally incensed by IRA atrocities committed by so-called Roman Catholics? I sure as hell was!!! How dare they gun down and bomb and otherwise destroy the lives of fellow Christians in the name of their own brand of faith! It's f*cking absurd and makes my blood boil. And I feel the exact same, THE EXACT SAME when a so-called "pro-lifer" kills an abortionist. It positively incenses (sp?) me to see such killing in the name of God. I personally like what the late Cardinal O'Connor said about such madness... he said he'd rather someone kill HIM than they kill (in this instance) an abortionist. That was the best way he could describe his outrage at such insanity. Does that spell it out clear enough for you? Indeed it does. Is it possible that the Islamic nun killers are real Muslims in the same way that IRA killers are real Roman Catholics? That is to say, in name only.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites