Richards 0
kallend 2,148
That's OK, I don't like fundamentalists. To each his own.
BTW I am not a union member either.
BTW I am not a union member either.
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jakee 1,595
QuoteShould 9/11/01 be a national holiday?
Since we need to wait 95 years for the next 9/11/01 to roll around isn't the discussion a bit academic?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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I have not viewed this thread nor commented on it, but my opinion is "no".
We should no more observe an event like 9/11 with a holiday than we should observe 12/7/41.
Holidays should be for celebration (or reflection, in the case of Memorial Day / Remembrance Day), but not for this kind of remembrance.
Shall we honor the fallen of 9/11 with picnics, ballgames and hot dogs?
mh
We should no more observe an event like 9/11 with a holiday than we should observe 12/7/41.
Holidays should be for celebration (or reflection, in the case of Memorial Day / Remembrance Day), but not for this kind of remembrance.
Shall we honor the fallen of 9/11 with picnics, ballgames and hot dogs?
mh
"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."
kallend 2,148
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Shall we honor the fallen of 9/11 with picnics, ballgames and hot dogs?
mh
That's EXACTLY how we remember the fallen in the nation's wars on Memorial Day.
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Shall we honor the fallen of 9/11 with picnics, ballgames and hot dogs?
mh
That's EXACTLY how we remember the fallen in the nation's wars on Memorial Day.
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tbrown 26
Pearl Harbor Day has always been observed, though never a holiday. And pragmatically, it's much too close to Labor Day. We'd NEVER get 9/11 off, unless it was on the weekend and the only reason we even have two day weekends is because of organized labor - and don't ever forget that !
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Richards
OK. Fine. I did not mean to offend anyone by aiming that specifically at union members as I obviously touched a chord with you. It was more of a reflection of our cultures attitude towards commemorative holidays (like that big drinking binge we have every year which has something to do with the birth of some guy that got pinned up on a cross thingy).
That said I am not a huge union lover. I find them to be very frustrating to work with particularly in a mixed union/non-union environment. I have experienced the worst of the worst of workplace politics in heavily unionised workplaces. My experiences have been that in highly unionised workplaces, politics takes priority over effectiveness. I worked in one place (not the only unionised place I had problems in) that was heavily unionised and had several competing factions. It took me months to accomplish tasks that would have taken a week or two in other environments because I had to adhere to endless protocols like going to meeting after meeting, conceeding one thing to each other faction before I could proceed with even one miniscule part of my plans. It was so incredibly frustrating to take so long to get anything done because I had to properly stroke everyones petty childish ego for every little baby step I had to make. I was losing my mind because it seemed so obvious that there were more effective ways of doing things but I was not allowed to. In the former environment I had worked in I only occasionally had to ask permission to do anything and in most cases was given a free hand to get things done so long as the end result was satisfactory. I had a reputation of getting things done but I was not always a protocol guy so union environments were a nightmare because I did not know how to negotiate the petty ego minefeild.
No actually. I have found them to be rather militant however. When I was a teenager and my father had opposed a major union ( I will not mention the union or his name) we did receive calls at all hours of the night with callers telling him that they knew where me and my sister went to school and that he had better stop speaking out about them (wonderfull example of proletariat love). By the way he had nothing to gain by standing up to them. As a senior member he would have gained had their demands been met but he took a position of principle (something they would have never understood) so they resorted to threats of violence to show that they stood for the common working man.
I find your tendency to make these kind of comments peculiar. I have noticed by reading your posts that you like to attack people who you disagree with. I have only come into your gunsights once previously but I see you doing this to other people with alarming frequency. It seems that many different people of all different viewpoints make all different types of comments on this site and there are many heated disagreements. I have had several strong counterpoints to my opinions and comments, and I have always tried to put myself in the position of the other person even if he was attacking me. That said most people do not come on here trying to look for online fights or engage in personal attacks (like the coment about my sister). Unfortunately there is always some guy for whom being rude, arrogant and condescending makes him feel like the man that he isn't. Personal attacks on discussion forums help him harbour the illusion that he actually has a man sized phallus. You are a university professor and I should hope are not vulnerable to these inadequacy compensations. Do you act like this towards your students? Do you hide behind your title and demand that they address you as Doctor so you can use that as a shield to hide personal inadequacies behind? I do not mean offense but if this is the result of some sort of childhood neglect then you should seek professional help (absolutely no shame in that) and learn to enjoy conversing with your fellow human without turning everything into a game of one-upmanship (my mom can beat up your mom, my dick is bigger than yours...etc). Life is too short.
Wishing you peace and happiness,
Richards