Royd 0 #76 September 18, 2006 Yes, I meant that. JC did not teach his followers to take up a literal physical war QuoteHe spoke of division, but never challenged any followers to take up battle. In fact he said the opposite to Pilate: Matthew 18:36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place." I believe that the Bible speaks of separating the wheat from the chaff, and the goats from the sheep. This is definitely a point in time, and it won't be pleasant if and when it happens. If you believe in the resurrection, you also have to believe in the second coming of Christ, and all of this is going to happen at some future date. We are warned to be prepared. Men do not have it within themselves to bring peace on the earth. Every agenda has a degree of selfishness, which is a sin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #77 September 18, 2006 >Men do not have it within themselves to bring peace on the earth. Some men do. We have holidays in their names. We have the capability, we just have to want to do it so badly that we can put aside the anger and hatred that's part of all of us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #78 September 18, 2006 no matter it is still the truth There are only two things in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE-Energy and the Law Of Attraction. www.godisimaginary.comwe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #79 September 19, 2006 QuoteYes, I meant that. JC did not teach his followers to take up a literal physical war QuoteHe spoke of division, but never challenged any followers to take up battle. In fact he said the opposite to Pilate: Matthew 18:36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place." I believe that the Bible speaks of separating the wheat from the chaff, and the goats from the sheep. This is definitely a point in time, and it won't be pleasant if and when it happens. If you believe in the resurrection, you also have to believe in the second coming of Christ, and all of this is going to happen at some future date. We are warned to be prepared. Yes, I believe in the resurrection and the second coming. i don't believe in a literal earthly kingdom, nor do I believe christ comes as a warrior. He has already accomplished everything he needs to do. the rest is up to us. Quote Men do not have it within themselves to bring peace on the earth. . Really? You should have told JC that before he preached the sermon on the mount. He could have worked on that that bit that said "blessed are the peacmakers, for they will be called the sons of God." steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #80 September 19, 2006 And here is me thinking it was "Blessed are the Cheesemakers...."Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #81 September 19, 2006 YAHWEH-ABOATH the god who gathers armies! www.jesusneverexisted.com peace under a Christian theocracy means one thing and one thing only-DEATH TO ALL WHO WILL NOT HAVE ME AS KING, BRING THEM BEFORE ME AND SLAY THEM BEFORE ME LUKE 19:27 "jesus did his part, the rest is up to us" Steveorino www.god is imaginary.com IF we are something more than just a blob of tissue that can think and reason, THEN we are infinite IMMORTAL spirit beings when we get here. www.educate-yourself.orgwe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #82 September 19, 2006 So HJ... how do you feel about ..............................................................................................................................................SATAN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #83 September 19, 2006 Well, you stooped to a new low. Posting your plethora of redundant websites is not offensive, just boring. Now you post your statement of poor exegesis of JC's parable with a statement of mine that Christ did all he could so we might live in peace with God and man, and make it look like I validate your typical fundie BS. I guess when you cannot add anything intelligent to a debate you misquote, mislead and deluge them with websites. You have made yourself a 'nonplayer' in a reasonable discussion on religion. No real loss though. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #84 September 19, 2006 religion is MENTAL ILLNESS. POSTED ABOVE IS A CHALENGE ON THE RESURECTION AND ASCENSION. did you collect the 2000 reward? have entertained the thought of trying to collect it? and why not? PHD's in theology have tried and failed. if you can collect the reward by completing the REASONABLE request, ill believe. if you can't, it proves me correct. Ralph Nielson, 334 Lauder, Moscow, Idaho 83843-2514, offers a 1,000 reward to anyone who can take all accounts ofthe resurection in the fourgospels, Acts and 1 corinthians 15, and write a single narrative in which YOU include every detail mentioned in every seperate account and do so without OMITTING anything or injecting inconsistancy, contradictions, or PURELY SPECULATIVE material into the narrative. To sweeten the pot a little,The Skeptical Review(Farrel Till, ed) will add 1000 to Mr. Nielson's offer. (See also 'No Stone Unturned, posted above) Unless and Until you collect the reward offered, it is established FACT, that i know more about the history and origins of the bible and christianity than you, with your MA in theology!we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #85 September 19, 2006 QuoteUnless and Until you collect the reward offered, it is established FACT, that i know more about the history and origins of the bible and christianity than you, with your MA in theology! Ooooo -- trembling in my boots, uh tevas. LOL! As I have said before, you may bore me with your websites, but some of your posts are down right hilarious. EDITED to ADD: You may know a lot more than I do. I have never said I know more than anyone here in these forums. And I especially never mentioned I knew more because I had a MA in Theology. In fact, if I learned nothing else in that MA course it is this. The more I learn about God, the more I realize how littlle I know. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #86 September 19, 2006 that you wont make an effort to examine the facts, is irrefutable proof that RELIGION IS MIND CONTROL. I LOL ALL DAY. because of this discussion. TAKE THE CHALLENGE AND PROVE ME WRONG!we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #87 September 19, 2006 If I spent 2 minutes trying to prove God to you, I'd be wasting my time and yours. It is not up to me to prove anything about God. He does NOT need me to prove anything about Him. BTW - I'm not sure which of your plethora of attachments you are referring to. Many do not work. Improper coding (you can't have spaces when you type an html attachment) For instance: http://www.god is imaginary.com steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #88 September 19, 2006 Quote Ralph Nielson ... offers a 1,000 reward to anyone who can take all accounts ofthe resurection in the fourgospels, Acts and 1 corinthians 15, and write a single narrative in which YOU include every detail mentioned in every seperate account and do so without OMITTING anything or injecting inconsistancy, contradictions, or PURELY SPECULATIVE material into the narrative. If five students told me the same story verbatim about an incident at school I'd suspect collaboration on a lie. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #89 September 19, 2006 QuoteRalph Nielson ... offers a 1,000 reward to anyone who can take all accounts ofthe resurection in the fourgospels, Acts and 1 corinthians 15, and write a single narrative in which YOU include every detail mentioned in every seperate account and do so without OMITTING anything or injecting inconsistancy, contradictions, or PURELY SPECULATIVE material into the narrative. can't be done. which doesn't prove the resurrection didn't happen. The people living back then weren't CNN, and didn't express themselves that way. Different authors would emphasize different points but the basics are all there. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #90 September 19, 2006 It would be like stating that any historian who wrote about Lincoln that did not agree 100% with other historians is lying, or as Hairy would say ... Lincoln didn't exist! steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #91 September 19, 2006 some of us suspect that hairyjuan doesn't exist. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #92 September 19, 2006 who??Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #93 September 20, 2006 > some of us suspect that hairyjuan doesn't exist. Imagine there's no hairyjuan It's easy if you try no links to click on below posts, only white Imagine all the people posting without the grief Imagine there's no gun threads it isn't hard to do Nothing to rant and rave about and no religion threads too Imagine all the posters reading stuff in peace You may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us and DZcom will be as one Imagine there's no Bush threads I wonder if you can no need to spell "Ahmadinejad" no Clinton-blowjob slams Imagine all the posters using lower case . . . You may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And DZcom will be as one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysaintj 0 #94 September 20, 2006 Quote> some of us suspect that hairyjuan doesn't exist. Imagine there's no hairyjuan It's easy if you try no links to click on below posts, only white Imagine all the people posting without the grief Imagine there's no gun threads it isn't hard to do Nothing to rant and rave about and no religion threads too Imagine all the posters reading stuff in peace You may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us and DZcom will be as one Imagine there's no Bush threads I wonder if you can no need to spell "Ahmadinejad" no Clinton-blowjob slams Imagine all the posters using lower case . . . You may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And DZcom will be as one Rock on BILLVON !!! .....brilliant !If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #95 September 20, 2006 Funniest thing I've read in a long time! I hope HJ has a good sense of humor ... if he really exists. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #96 September 20, 2006 Quotereligion is MENTAL ILLNESS. I wouldn't call it mental illness. I'd say religions thrive because at least the simple majority of humans draw more on their emotions than their deductive abilities when it comes to making choices. Actually, I think it is much higher than that. I'd guess 90% of humans, when faced with a contradiction provided between their emotive and deductive processes, make choices based on their emotions. The remaining few percent of us are probably the result of a long ago attempt by alien species to interbreed with Earthlings." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #97 September 20, 2006 Oh oh.. Bill is waxing poetic GAWD I hope that is not a PA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #98 September 20, 2006 QuoteFunniest thing I've read in a long time! I hope HJ has a good sense of humor ... if he really exists. I now believe HJ is real. There have been a couple posts where it appears he directly answered to a couple points in a way a machine could not." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #99 September 20, 2006 Oh no, not again! Or is this the same old thread and the world is really only going to end once?" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hairyjuan 0 #100 September 20, 2006 can't be done is absolutely proof the resurrection DOES NOT EXIST-- Thomas Paine-"the age of reason" I lay it down as a position which cannot be controverted, first, that the agreement of the parts does not prove the story to be true, because the parts may agree and the whole may be false; secondly, that the disagreement of the parts of a story proves the whole cannot be true. from his origins of freemasonry--Masonry and the Christian religion have one and the same origin, the worship of the sun. with one major difference, the Christians place adoration on one they call christ, which is a parody of the adoration originally paid to the SUN. www.godisimaginary.com www.whywontgodhealamputees.com Reasonable and INTELLIGENT people are cheerfully invited to have a good laugh at the video belowwe are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively wishers never choose, choosers never wish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
