Lucky... 0 #51 September 11, 2006 Or how to edit to meet one's own opinion. Can I have some more sugar, please? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #52 September 11, 2006 QuoteI haven't read it. Does it mention anywhere that if the Clinton Admin. had killed or captured OBL before 9/11 that we wouldn't be debating all this right now? Or how if Bush Sr either hadn't gone in or went in and finished the job that we might not be here. Or we could go back to the 1948 Palastine War where we helped establish Israel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #53 September 11, 2006 QuoteQuote>Does it mention anywhere that if the Clinton Admin. had killed or > captured OBL before 9/11 that we wouldn't be debating all this right > now? QuoteNope, nor does it mention that Nixon was a crook, or that Reagan armed the Mujahideen. Not suprising, since none of those points has anything to do with the use of intelligence in the run-up to the war. >I haven't read it. QuoteWhich makes you the perfect Speaker's Corner debater on it! Except I wasn't debating it, I was just asking a question. Is that OK with you? More of a rhetorical question, which is a question meanst as a statement, an argument. Yes, you were debating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #54 September 11, 2006 There you go with citation of facts and evidence again. Hey, where did Rush go? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #55 September 11, 2006 QuoteQuote Amazing, but not surprising how you fail to see, or simply ignore the reality of the importance of the US issues with Iran within the context of the History lesson he posted, which by the way begins in 1980. Right - obviously it should begin in 1953. However, not relevant to the administration's lies with respect to the 2003 invasion, now carefully documented by the Republican controlled Senate. Sometimes cynicism is warranted: www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=415792#415792 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=415872#415872 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=382511#382511 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=386328#386328 John as soon as you haver your time machine up and running let me know and I will go with you to kill I mean correct the assholesmistakes made Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,182 #56 September 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Amazing, but not surprising how you fail to see, or simply ignore the reality of the importance of the US issues with Iran within the context of the History lesson he posted, which by the way begins in 1980. Right - obviously it should begin in 1953. However, not relevant to the administration's lies with respect to the 2003 invasion, now carefully documented by the Republican controlled Senate. Sometimes cynicism is warranted: www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=415792#415792 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=415872#415872 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=382511#382511 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=386328#386328 John as soon as you haver your time machine up and running let me know and I will go with you to kill I mean correct the assholesmistakes made Wait until last week, and I will have been over to show you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #57 September 11, 2006 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #58 September 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote>Does it mention anywhere that if the Clinton Admin. had killed or > captured OBL before 9/11 that we wouldn't be debating all this right > now? QuoteNope, nor does it mention that Nixon was a crook, or that Reagan armed the Mujahideen. Not suprising, since none of those points has anything to do with the use of intelligence in the run-up to the war. >I haven't read it. QuoteWhich makes you the perfect Speaker's Corner debater on it! Except I wasn't debating it, I was just asking a question. Is that OK with you? More of a rhetorical question, which is a question meanst as a statement, an argument. Yes, you were debating.[/reply Nope, just a simple question. Have you actually read the entire report and not just the news article? (That's a simple question too). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #59 September 12, 2006 Quote More of a rhetorical question, which is a question meanst as a statement, an argument. Yes, you were debating. You are too funny. ***rhetorical adj 1: of or relating to rhetoric; "accepted two or three verbal and rhetorical changes I suggested"- W.A.White; "the rhetorical sin of the meaningless variation"- Lewis Mumford 2: concerned with effect or style of writing and speaking; "a rhetorical question is one asked solely to produce an effect (especially to make an assertion) rather than to elicit a reply"*** So by definition, if I wasn't asking a question to elicit a reply, I wasn't debating. QuoteNope, just a simple question. Have you actually read the entire report and not just the news article? (That's a simple question too). Since you haven't answered my question, I will assume you haven't read the report, but have chosen to comment on it anyway. By Billvon's definition that makes you the perfect SC debater. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #60 September 12, 2006 QuoteQuote More of a rhetorical question, which is a question meanst as a statement, an argument. Yes, you were debating. You are too funny. ***rhetorical adj 1: of or relating to rhetoric; "accepted two or three verbal and rhetorical changes I suggested"- W.A.White; "the rhetorical sin of the meaningless variation"- Lewis Mumford 2: concerned with effect or style of writing and speaking; "a rhetorical question is one asked solely to produce an effect (especially to make an assertion) rather than to elicit a reply"*** So by definition, if I wasn't asking a question to elicit a reply, I wasn't debating. QuoteNope, just a simple question. Have you actually read the entire report and not just the news article? (That's a simple question too). Since you haven't answered my question, I will assume you haven't read the report, but have chosen to comment on it anyway. By Billvon's definition that makes you the perfect SC debater. You are even funnier: >> Rhetorical Question - a question asked solely to produce an effect or to make an assertion and not to elicit a reply, as “What is so rare as a day in June?” >> A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect. >> A question asked without expecting an answer but for the sake of emphasis or effect. The expected answer is usually "yes" or "no." For example, Can we improve the quality of our work? That's a rhetorical question. [Late 1800s] >> a statement that is formulated as a question but that is not supposed to be answered; "he liked to make his points with rhetorical questions" http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rhetorical+question I should get paid for this..... all the teaching I do..... it's on the house. Yes, you were making a rhetorical question, hence you were making a counter statement, so you were/are in a debate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #61 September 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote More of a rhetorical question, which is a question meanst as a statement, an argument. Yes, you were debating. You are too funny. ***rhetorical adj 1: of or relating to rhetoric; "accepted two or three verbal and rhetorical changes I suggested"- W.A.White; "the rhetorical sin of the meaningless variation"- Lewis Mumford 2: concerned with effect or style of writing and speaking; "a rhetorical question is one asked solely to produce an effect (especially to make an assertion) rather than to elicit a reply"*** So by definition, if I wasn't asking a question to elicit a reply, I wasn't debating. QuoteNope, just a simple question. Have you actually read the entire report and not just the news article? (That's a simple question too). Since you haven't answered my question, I will assume you haven't read the report, but have chosen to comment on it anyway. By Billvon's definition that makes you the perfect SC debater. You are even funnier: >> Rhetorical Question - a question asked solely to produce an effect or to make an assertion and not to elicit a reply, as “What is so rare as a day in June?” >> A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect. >> A question asked without expecting an answer but for the sake of emphasis or effect. The expected answer is usually "yes" or "no." For example, Can we improve the quality of our work? That's a rhetorical question. [Late 1800s] >> a statement that is formulated as a question but that is not supposed to be answered; "he liked to make his points with rhetorical questions" http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rhetorical+question I should get paid for this..... all the teaching I do..... it's on the house. Yes, you were making a rhetorical question, hence you were making a counter statement, so you were/are in a debate. I better give examples of rhetorical questions and how they are used in debate. Person 1: The Republicans are legislating initiatives to cast a heavy shadow of morality on several issues this session. Person 2: Don't you think the Republicans have as much morality as do the Dems on their worst day? This question wasn't meant to be answered, and is a statement. Person 1 has the option to continue the debate or acquiesce. Even tho Person 2 didn't elicit an answer, as the answer is implied via the rhetorical question, Person 2 is still furthering the debate and if intelligent, Person 1 wouldn't actually answer the question but reply with examples of morality of the Republican Party. Point is, you're acting as if a rhetorical question is the end-all to the conversation or a thought in passing. You may be unaware of this, but look at the Socratic Method; Socrates taught by way of asking questions, many of them rhetorical. 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Lucky... 0 #54 September 11, 2006 There you go with citation of facts and evidence again. Hey, where did Rush go? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #55 September 11, 2006 QuoteQuote Amazing, but not surprising how you fail to see, or simply ignore the reality of the importance of the US issues with Iran within the context of the History lesson he posted, which by the way begins in 1980. Right - obviously it should begin in 1953. However, not relevant to the administration's lies with respect to the 2003 invasion, now carefully documented by the Republican controlled Senate. Sometimes cynicism is warranted: www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=415792#415792 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=415872#415872 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=382511#382511 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=386328#386328 John as soon as you haver your time machine up and running let me know and I will go with you to kill I mean correct the assholesmistakes made Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #56 September 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Amazing, but not surprising how you fail to see, or simply ignore the reality of the importance of the US issues with Iran within the context of the History lesson he posted, which by the way begins in 1980. Right - obviously it should begin in 1953. However, not relevant to the administration's lies with respect to the 2003 invasion, now carefully documented by the Republican controlled Senate. Sometimes cynicism is warranted: www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=415792#415792 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=415872#415872 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=382511#382511 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=386328#386328 John as soon as you haver your time machine up and running let me know and I will go with you to kill I mean correct the assholesmistakes made Wait until last week, and I will have been over to show you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #58 September 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote>Does it mention anywhere that if the Clinton Admin. had killed or > captured OBL before 9/11 that we wouldn't be debating all this right > now? QuoteNope, nor does it mention that Nixon was a crook, or that Reagan armed the Mujahideen. Not suprising, since none of those points has anything to do with the use of intelligence in the run-up to the war. >I haven't read it. QuoteWhich makes you the perfect Speaker's Corner debater on it! Except I wasn't debating it, I was just asking a question. Is that OK with you? More of a rhetorical question, which is a question meanst as a statement, an argument. Yes, you were debating.[/reply Nope, just a simple question. Have you actually read the entire report and not just the news article? (That's a simple question too). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #59 September 12, 2006 Quote More of a rhetorical question, which is a question meanst as a statement, an argument. Yes, you were debating. You are too funny. ***rhetorical adj 1: of or relating to rhetoric; "accepted two or three verbal and rhetorical changes I suggested"- W.A.White; "the rhetorical sin of the meaningless variation"- Lewis Mumford 2: concerned with effect or style of writing and speaking; "a rhetorical question is one asked solely to produce an effect (especially to make an assertion) rather than to elicit a reply"*** So by definition, if I wasn't asking a question to elicit a reply, I wasn't debating. QuoteNope, just a simple question. Have you actually read the entire report and not just the news article? (That's a simple question too). Since you haven't answered my question, I will assume you haven't read the report, but have chosen to comment on it anyway. By Billvon's definition that makes you the perfect SC debater. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #60 September 12, 2006 QuoteQuote More of a rhetorical question, which is a question meanst as a statement, an argument. Yes, you were debating. You are too funny. ***rhetorical adj 1: of or relating to rhetoric; "accepted two or three verbal and rhetorical changes I suggested"- W.A.White; "the rhetorical sin of the meaningless variation"- Lewis Mumford 2: concerned with effect or style of writing and speaking; "a rhetorical question is one asked solely to produce an effect (especially to make an assertion) rather than to elicit a reply"*** So by definition, if I wasn't asking a question to elicit a reply, I wasn't debating. QuoteNope, just a simple question. Have you actually read the entire report and not just the news article? (That's a simple question too). Since you haven't answered my question, I will assume you haven't read the report, but have chosen to comment on it anyway. By Billvon's definition that makes you the perfect SC debater. You are even funnier: >> Rhetorical Question - a question asked solely to produce an effect or to make an assertion and not to elicit a reply, as “What is so rare as a day in June?” >> A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect. >> A question asked without expecting an answer but for the sake of emphasis or effect. The expected answer is usually "yes" or "no." For example, Can we improve the quality of our work? That's a rhetorical question. [Late 1800s] >> a statement that is formulated as a question but that is not supposed to be answered; "he liked to make his points with rhetorical questions" http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rhetorical+question I should get paid for this..... all the teaching I do..... it's on the house. Yes, you were making a rhetorical question, hence you were making a counter statement, so you were/are in a debate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #61 September 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote More of a rhetorical question, which is a question meanst as a statement, an argument. Yes, you were debating. You are too funny. ***rhetorical adj 1: of or relating to rhetoric; "accepted two or three verbal and rhetorical changes I suggested"- W.A.White; "the rhetorical sin of the meaningless variation"- Lewis Mumford 2: concerned with effect or style of writing and speaking; "a rhetorical question is one asked solely to produce an effect (especially to make an assertion) rather than to elicit a reply"*** So by definition, if I wasn't asking a question to elicit a reply, I wasn't debating. QuoteNope, just a simple question. Have you actually read the entire report and not just the news article? (That's a simple question too). Since you haven't answered my question, I will assume you haven't read the report, but have chosen to comment on it anyway. By Billvon's definition that makes you the perfect SC debater. You are even funnier: >> Rhetorical Question - a question asked solely to produce an effect or to make an assertion and not to elicit a reply, as “What is so rare as a day in June?” >> A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect. >> A question asked without expecting an answer but for the sake of emphasis or effect. The expected answer is usually "yes" or "no." For example, Can we improve the quality of our work? That's a rhetorical question. [Late 1800s] >> a statement that is formulated as a question but that is not supposed to be answered; "he liked to make his points with rhetorical questions" http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rhetorical+question I should get paid for this..... all the teaching I do..... it's on the house. Yes, you were making a rhetorical question, hence you were making a counter statement, so you were/are in a debate. I better give examples of rhetorical questions and how they are used in debate. Person 1: The Republicans are legislating initiatives to cast a heavy shadow of morality on several issues this session. Person 2: Don't you think the Republicans have as much morality as do the Dems on their worst day? This question wasn't meant to be answered, and is a statement. Person 1 has the option to continue the debate or acquiesce. Even tho Person 2 didn't elicit an answer, as the answer is implied via the rhetorical question, Person 2 is still furthering the debate and if intelligent, Person 1 wouldn't actually answer the question but reply with examples of morality of the Republican Party. Point is, you're acting as if a rhetorical question is the end-all to the conversation or a thought in passing. You may be unaware of this, but look at the Socratic Method; Socrates taught by way of asking questions, many of them rhetorical. Do you think Socrates was trying to continue debate, ro just avoid the debate as you say rhetorical questions are? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 3 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Gravitymaster 0 #59 September 12, 2006 Quote More of a rhetorical question, which is a question meanst as a statement, an argument. Yes, you were debating. You are too funny. ***rhetorical adj 1: of or relating to rhetoric; "accepted two or three verbal and rhetorical changes I suggested"- W.A.White; "the rhetorical sin of the meaningless variation"- Lewis Mumford 2: concerned with effect or style of writing and speaking; "a rhetorical question is one asked solely to produce an effect (especially to make an assertion) rather than to elicit a reply"*** So by definition, if I wasn't asking a question to elicit a reply, I wasn't debating. QuoteNope, just a simple question. Have you actually read the entire report and not just the news article? (That's a simple question too). Since you haven't answered my question, I will assume you haven't read the report, but have chosen to comment on it anyway. By Billvon's definition that makes you the perfect SC debater. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #60 September 12, 2006 QuoteQuote More of a rhetorical question, which is a question meanst as a statement, an argument. Yes, you were debating. You are too funny. ***rhetorical adj 1: of or relating to rhetoric; "accepted two or three verbal and rhetorical changes I suggested"- W.A.White; "the rhetorical sin of the meaningless variation"- Lewis Mumford 2: concerned with effect or style of writing and speaking; "a rhetorical question is one asked solely to produce an effect (especially to make an assertion) rather than to elicit a reply"*** So by definition, if I wasn't asking a question to elicit a reply, I wasn't debating. QuoteNope, just a simple question. Have you actually read the entire report and not just the news article? (That's a simple question too). Since you haven't answered my question, I will assume you haven't read the report, but have chosen to comment on it anyway. By Billvon's definition that makes you the perfect SC debater. You are even funnier: >> Rhetorical Question - a question asked solely to produce an effect or to make an assertion and not to elicit a reply, as “What is so rare as a day in June?” >> A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect. >> A question asked without expecting an answer but for the sake of emphasis or effect. The expected answer is usually "yes" or "no." For example, Can we improve the quality of our work? That's a rhetorical question. [Late 1800s] >> a statement that is formulated as a question but that is not supposed to be answered; "he liked to make his points with rhetorical questions" http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rhetorical+question I should get paid for this..... all the teaching I do..... it's on the house. Yes, you were making a rhetorical question, hence you were making a counter statement, so you were/are in a debate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #61 September 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote More of a rhetorical question, which is a question meanst as a statement, an argument. Yes, you were debating. You are too funny. ***rhetorical adj 1: of or relating to rhetoric; "accepted two or three verbal and rhetorical changes I suggested"- W.A.White; "the rhetorical sin of the meaningless variation"- Lewis Mumford 2: concerned with effect or style of writing and speaking; "a rhetorical question is one asked solely to produce an effect (especially to make an assertion) rather than to elicit a reply"*** So by definition, if I wasn't asking a question to elicit a reply, I wasn't debating. QuoteNope, just a simple question. Have you actually read the entire report and not just the news article? (That's a simple question too). Since you haven't answered my question, I will assume you haven't read the report, but have chosen to comment on it anyway. By Billvon's definition that makes you the perfect SC debater. You are even funnier: >> Rhetorical Question - a question asked solely to produce an effect or to make an assertion and not to elicit a reply, as “What is so rare as a day in June?” >> A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect. >> A question asked without expecting an answer but for the sake of emphasis or effect. The expected answer is usually "yes" or "no." For example, Can we improve the quality of our work? That's a rhetorical question. [Late 1800s] >> a statement that is formulated as a question but that is not supposed to be answered; "he liked to make his points with rhetorical questions" http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rhetorical+question I should get paid for this..... all the teaching I do..... it's on the house. Yes, you were making a rhetorical question, hence you were making a counter statement, so you were/are in a debate. I better give examples of rhetorical questions and how they are used in debate. Person 1: The Republicans are legislating initiatives to cast a heavy shadow of morality on several issues this session. Person 2: Don't you think the Republicans have as much morality as do the Dems on their worst day? This question wasn't meant to be answered, and is a statement. Person 1 has the option to continue the debate or acquiesce. Even tho Person 2 didn't elicit an answer, as the answer is implied via the rhetorical question, Person 2 is still furthering the debate and if intelligent, Person 1 wouldn't actually answer the question but reply with examples of morality of the Republican Party. Point is, you're acting as if a rhetorical question is the end-all to the conversation or a thought in passing. You may be unaware of this, but look at the Socratic Method; Socrates taught by way of asking questions, many of them rhetorical. Do you think Socrates was trying to continue debate, ro just avoid the debate as you say rhetorical questions are? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
