D22369 0 #1 August 28, 2006 new on my wish list!! anything that comes with a 5th wheel pickup truck mount is all right by me http://www.anzioironworks.com/20MM-TAKE-DOWN-RIFLE.htm not sure how long I could afford to feed this beast though.... RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 August 28, 2006 very cool but I still like the XM109 25mm Rifle http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2005smallarms/wednesday/lee.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #3 August 28, 2006 Quotevery cool but I still like the XM109 25mm Rifle http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2005smallarms/wednesday/lee.pdf You beat me to it. I agree with you. The XM109 is one bad ass weapon and a lot of fun to shoot. It will pretty much eat anyones lunch out there."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #4 August 28, 2006 ok... ok.... ya win... that is pretty awsome too, can a civilian buy that piece of ordinance or is it still military only? put me on the waiting list !!! RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #5 August 28, 2006 Quotenew on my wish list!! Damn! We need to go have a beer. We think alike in this area. That would kick ass. Dont know what I would do with it, but it kicks ass!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrissylicious 0 #6 August 28, 2006 My ass is new on your wishlist Bye the way........................................................ I have a nice ass"I will stick you with a rope"- ME Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #7 August 28, 2006 My ass is new on your wishlist*** whaaattyyaa mean "new" hahahhahahaha yes ... you have a nice ass... ....erm.....hi Chet ;-) RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #8 August 28, 2006 Damn! How about that HEAP round! Strewth, serious bit of ordinance.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #9 August 28, 2006 When it comes to large caliber, anti-vehicle weapons, let's establish who thought of it FIRST These things are nice, but there's still no real way around Newton's Third Law of Motion. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 August 28, 2006 Quoteok... ok.... ya win... that is pretty awsome too, can a civilian buy that piece of ordinance or is it still military only? put me on the waiting list !!! Roy Anything over 50cal is considered a Destructive device and has tons of federal regulations/scrutinty The problem is finding a place to shoot it without going OCONUS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #11 August 28, 2006 I wish we had them back in the early 80's Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #12 August 28, 2006 If I had a team of eight or more I would go with: 2ea.XM109 2ea. Mk46 mod 0 chambered in 6.5mm Grendel 2ea. or more M4 SOPMOD chambered in 6.5mm Grendel 2ea. Leupold IR Scoped 2.5-10x42MM, M16 A3 20" HBAR in 6.5mm Grendel Benelli M1 Tactical is a good compliment to this. All with Holosights and NV and any accessories needed per mission requirements. I think there would be no need for more firepower. I know some may think these are all too heavy, I have never known anyone who wished he brought "less gun" to a fight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #13 August 28, 2006 QuoteDamn! How about that HEAP round! Strewth, serious bit of ordinance. _______________________________ I think, they're workin'-up a der huntin' trip! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #14 August 28, 2006 Quoteok... ok.... ya win... that is pretty awsome too, can a civilian buy that piece of ordinance or is it still military only? Sure. You just have to pay the Federal government a $200 transfer tax, live in a free state+city that doesn't have its own laws against destructive devices, and get a CLEO (Certified Law Enforcement Official, usually this means the Sheriff, Police Chief, District Attorney, etc.) sign-off on the transfer. After purchase, you'll also have to ask for ATF's permission if you want to move the gun across state lines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #15 August 28, 2006 You plan on walking across the country side with all of that or just sitting in a static position? Having carried a Barret up and over the many terrain features in Afghanistan and Iraq, I can tell you that weapon set up for a team is not practical, unless your talking about a weapons squad for an Infantry platoon in a support position. QuoteI have never known anyone who wished he brought "less gun" to a fight. I have. The Panama invasion is a good example. It is not cool when your own guys rounds are going through the bad guys, through the wall and into the adjoining room the rest of the team is assaulting through. QuoteI think there would be no need for more firepower. There is a difference between working smart and working hard. If I need that much more firepower I make a call and anything from gun ships to JDAMS will fall. There is no sense in expecting a team to carry the equivilent to an Infantry weapons squad. To do so when the mission doesn't require it just puts the team at an added risk."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #16 August 28, 2006 QuoteIf I had a team of eight or more I would go with: 2ea.XM109 2ea. Mk46 mod 0 chambered in 6.5mm Grendel 2ea. or more M4 SOPMOD chambered in 6.5mm Grendel 2ea. Leupold IR Scoped 2.5-10x42MM, M16 A3 20" HBAR in 6.5mm Grendel Benelli M1 Tactical is a good compliment to this. All with Holosights and NV and any accessories needed per mission requirements. I think there would be no need for more firepower. I know some may think these are all too heavy, I have never known anyone who wished he brought "less gun" to a fight. No AI? You got a Barrett and some "lightweight" guns. But how about a nice accurate weapon to manage longer distances. and ps.... I am not a wussie. (will post pic of me and a lil ma duece when I get home) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #17 August 28, 2006 QuoteI have never known anyone who wished he brought "less gun" to a fight. I have! US Army. Vietnam. Followed by most other armies. The M14 was quite simply "too-much-gun". Hence the .223" AR-15 (which was originally more intended for 95lb ARVN troops). Of course, the .223" is now realised to be "too-little-gun"... By a convoluted route, we're gradually going back to a 7x43mm (.280") as the "best" balance between power & controllability & quantity & carriability in an infantry weapon, but we've been there several times before in other threads. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #18 August 28, 2006 Randall, you forgot sidearms!! My favourite is pictured below, having been tried and tested numerous times over the years, remarkably user friendly and dependable: Karen, the XM-109 has a greater range than the .338 you have pictured. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #19 August 28, 2006 I'm not saying that he should take the Barrett off the list - it has it's use, just that he should add something in between a 50cal and a light machine gun. Something for distance with out the force. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #20 August 28, 2006 Yeah I do agree with you then. But for most 8 man patrol/squad scenarios it would be a case of picking one over the other. I'd always go for the .338 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #21 August 28, 2006 Gee whiz! Talk about changes in technology. It's hard to keep up with. I went through the list of weapons and didn't recongize much. One thing has probably stayed the same....that being the physical ability of an individual soldier. Packing too much weight isn't a good thing over adverse terrain. Even the weight of your ammo adds up. These are all nice weapons, but for some missions having less weapon may be smarter. I'd say listen to Lou Diamond. He's been there and knows what he's talking about.....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #22 August 28, 2006 The Grendel chambered M16's would give you a 1000yd weapon, and the M4 around 800yds If you needed a true sniper rifle I would swap out one M109 for a .338 Lapua, probably the M98 Windrunner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #23 August 28, 2006 Scott I was talking about short range patrols. Obviously if you had to tab it for all you are worth you don't wanna be hauling all that weight. I never did wanna be a beast of burden if I did not have to. Yes that is a good reason to have a great radio and GPS, batteries are your friendGee I wonder why almost all veterans have bad knees and a sore back? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #24 August 28, 2006 At least it has an applicable name - anyone know any other equipment known as an M-109??? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #25 August 28, 2006 QuoteRandall, you forgot sidearms!! My favourite is pictured below, having been tried and tested numerous times over the years, remarkably user friendly and dependable:Quote I was gonna opt for a tranq pistol for doing "catch and release" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
