miked10270 0 #1 August 23, 2006 And will probably self-repair in 60 years!http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/5276994.stm But TV News says it's actually shrinking. Scientists give credit to human intervention on CFCs Now for the Carbon War... Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #2 August 23, 2006 Yep, saw that. And smog in LA is down a significant amount, due primarily to the CARB's clean air requirements for vehicles. When the CARB regulations first came out, people predicted that they would destroy the auto industry. "You want a car to have a PLATINUM-coated converter? And a COMPUTER? Only millionaires will be able to afford cars! You clearly want to destroy the US auto industry." And today more people than ever own cars, and in real dollars, are about the same cost as they were in 1970. MSRP on the Beetle in 1970 was $1799, or $9764 in 2006 dollars; the 2007 Chevy Aveo MSRP is $8911. And the Aveo is many times safer and cleaner than the Beetle was. Freon replacement - same thing. Doomsayers predicted we'd all be sweating in un-airconditioned cars and houses, unable to afford pricey new refrigerants. Yet today air conditioners and refrigerators are cheaper than ever (even in unadjusted dollars.) And we've saved the ozone layer. Nowadays people are claiming the same thing about CO2 reductions. "That Kyoto Protocol is a trick that those evil foreigners are using to destroy the US! Our economy will go down the toilet! We'll all lose our jobs!" I have a feeling that when California starts implementing CO2 emissions reductions in a few years, our economy will not only continue do well, but a few enterprising companies will make billions selling products to reduce CO2 emissions (or sequester them.) It's happened before. The rest of the country will follow shortly, as it always seems to. The bottom line is that emission reductions work, and they do not "destroy the economy." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites