debonair 0 #1 August 23, 2006 I was talking to my cousin on Monday and he told me about a UK news story where passengers aboard an aircraft refused to sit down and take their seats until 2 "suspicious-looking" muslims left the plane. Apparently it held up the departure of the flight for quite some time. I haven't seen anything like that in the press here in the US. Has anyone else heard this story? This kind of behavior is sad and scary (assuming it's true). AZChallenger JFTC99/02 GOFAST300 STILLUV4WAY "It's nothing 1000 jumps won't cure..." - Jeff Gorlick, Seattle Sky Divers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #2 August 23, 2006 Yeah... Monarch Airlines. A package tour charter flight from Malaga to Manchester. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/5267884.stm Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflysteve 0 #3 August 23, 2006 Better to get sorted on the ground than in the air. Good for the passengers,if something bad had happened after take off it would be a totally different story.Swooping, huh? I love that stuff ... all the flashing lights and wailing sirens ... it's very exciting! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #4 August 23, 2006 QuoteBetter to get sorted on the ground than in the air. Good for the passengers,if something bad had happened after take off it would be a totally different story. So... "I'm not flying with him in the plane -- He looks a bit, you know... Araby-Muslimy looking." Can't wait to hear that one on Air India, Singapore Airlines, El-Al, or YOUR flight to / from Arizona or Florida: "I'm NOT flying with him in the plane -- He's got darkl skin AND A PARACHUTE! I heard him talking about a parachute!! He's going to blow us all up and parachute away to do it again!!!" Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #5 August 23, 2006 QuoteI was talking to my cousin on Monday and he told me about a UK news story where passengers aboard an aircraft refused to sit down and take their seats until 2 "suspicious-looking" muslims left the plane. Apparently it held up the departure of the flight for quite some time. I haven't seen anything like that in the press here in the US. Has anyone else heard this story? This kind of behavior is sad and scary (assuming it's true). What would be sadder is if people are so frightened of being politically incorrect that they do nothing - that's what made 9/11 happen. I say screw political correctness, and do El Al-style interviews of ANY young Middle Eastern males before they are allowed to board a plane, especially if their name is "Mohammed". mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #6 August 23, 2006 QuoteWhat would be sadder is if people are so frightened of being politically incorrect that they do nothing - that's what made 9/11 happen. 9/11 DID NOT happen because of political correctness. It happened because everyone behaved according to ALL the aircraft hijackings that went before. This was a complete change from every hijacking in the past. This is like saying Pearl Harbour happened because America didn't invade Japan in 1940! QuoteI say screw political correctness... You prefer mindless xenophobia? In that case the "Terrorists" have already beaten you. They want "their" people to be disenfranchised & dissatisfied. They recruit from people who think they have little or nothing to lose. You seem to see this as a war between Islam & Christianity. I believe it is a war between individual freedoms and dictatorships. Moderates & extremists. Unfortunately, in my case, the lines aren't so clearly drawn by country and race, they are drawn by mindset, and the "extremists / dictators" are winning. Think of all the freedoms that have been given up for "safety". Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #7 August 23, 2006 Quote 9/11 DID NOT happen because of political correctness. It happened because everyone behaved according to ALL the aircraft hijackings that went before. This was a complete change from every hijacking in the past. This is like saying Pearl Harbour happened because America didn't invade Japan in 1940! So the stories about nobody reporting the suspicious behavior of the RHIFWs who hijacked the planes out of fear of being labelled "racist" are bogus? mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #8 August 23, 2006 "All the stories"... Everyone, crew & passengers *knew* what happens during a hijack, and acted according to that. They followed the (then) script of complying with the hijackers knowing that the plane would land and then be contained for negotiated release or attack by SF. That was the way it had always been done. That was the way that gave the best chance of survival in the past... So "the Hijack Plan" was followed properly. The surprise was that the hijackers had made a fundamental (sic) change to the "rules". Prior to 9/11 no-one had hijacked a plane to use as a suicide weapon. Since then, "The Hijack Rule" has changed from 'No-Resistance-Comply' to 'Maximum-Resistance'. But up to 9/11 the old rule was safer. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #9 August 23, 2006 I see that you are talking about the actual hijackings themselves; I am talking about the suspicious behavior prior, and how everybody did absolutely nothing out of fear of being denounced as non-PC. This thread was about the people in this particular event and how they reacted, and how "sad" it was that those poor, oppressed, funny-acting Middle-Eastern-Looking people got profiled by the other passengers. Tough luck for them, but I'd rather be safe than sorry. mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #10 August 23, 2006 QuoteI see that you are talking about the actual hijackings themselves; I am talking about the suspicious behavior prior, and how everybody did absolutely nothing out of fear of being denounced as non-PC. But... PRIOR to 9/11, the "suspicious behaviour" and the items they carried would not have stopped them from flying. Hindsight is 100%. It's all too easy to be wise, even prescient, after an event. QuoteThis thread was about the people in this particular event and how they reacted, and how "sad" it was that those poor, oppressed, funny-acting Middle-Eastern-Looking people got profiled by the other passengers. Tough luck for them, but I'd rather be safe than sorry. I see this incident as being about mass hysteria and collective (xeno)phobia. Should your fellow passengers "decide" if you fly based on their untrained opinion of whether they happen to "like the look of you"? I must admit that were I the Captain of that plane, I would have allowed anyone who DIDN'T want to fly on it to get off if they wanted. How they then got to where they wanted to go would then be their concern. Not mine. Not my company's I would NOT have ejected 2 passengers based on a vote by the cargo! Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #11 August 23, 2006 if the suspicious men had clean shaven bodies, and were reciting prayers would anyone then feel differently? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #12 August 23, 2006 Just goes to show stupidity, ignorence and xenaphobic paranoia knows no borders.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #13 August 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteBetter to get sorted on the ground than in the air. Good for the passengers,if something bad had happened after take off it would be a totally different story. So... "I'm not flying with him in the plane -- He looks a bit, you know... Araby-Muslimy looking." Can't wait to hear that one on Air India, Singapore Airlines, El-Al, or YOUR flight to / from Arizona or Florida: "I'm NOT flying with him in the plane -- He's got darkl skin AND A PARACHUTE! I heard him talking about a parachute!! He's going to blow us all up and parachute away to do it again!!!" Mike. Mate, don't even joke. I had a american woman tell me as we were getting off a flight in the states that if she'd have known I had a parachute she'd have never got'n on the plane' I thought the silly bitch was going to faint.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #14 August 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteI was talking to my cousin on Monday and he told me about a UK news story where passengers aboard an aircraft refused to sit down and take their seats until 2 "suspicious-looking" muslims left the plane. Apparently it held up the departure of the flight for quite some time. I haven't seen anything like that in the press here in the US. Has anyone else heard this story? This kind of behavior is sad and scary (assuming it's true). What would be sadder is if people are so frightened of being politically incorrect that they do nothing - that's what made 9/11 happen. I say screw political correctness, and do El Al-style interviews of ANY young Middle Eastern males before they are allowed to board a plane, especially if their name is "Mohammed". mh Congrats, thats the most stupid post you've ever posted (and the competition was fierce)When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #15 August 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI was talking to my cousin on Monday and he told me about a UK news story where passengers aboard an aircraft refused to sit down and take their seats until 2 "suspicious-looking" muslims left the plane. Apparently it held up the departure of the flight for quite some time. I haven't seen anything like that in the press here in the US. Has anyone else heard this story? This kind of behavior is sad and scary (assuming it's true). What would be sadder is if people are so frightened of being politically incorrect that they do nothing - that's what made 9/11 happen. I say screw political correctness, and do El Al-style interviews of ANY young Middle Eastern males before they are allowed to board a plane, especially if their name is "Mohammed". mh Congrats, thats the most stupid post you've ever posted (and the competition was fierce) El Al profiles and interviews passengers, and hasn't had a hijacking since Entebbe in 1976. I rest my case. I also subscribe to the Little Green Footballs theory that every muslim is assumed to be a terrorist until proven otherwise. edit for elaboration"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #16 August 23, 2006 QuoteI also subscribe to the Little Green Footballs theory that every muslim is assumed to be a terrorist until proven otherwise. Same with former US Marines driving vans nearby Federal building? "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crozby 0 #17 August 23, 2006 QuoteMonarch Airlines. A package tour charter flight from Malaga to Manchester. Kind of what you expect from a plane load of thick northern twats. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,117 #18 August 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteI also subscribe to the Little Green Footballs theory that every muslim is assumed to be a terrorist until proven otherwise. Same with former US Marines driving vans nearby Federal building? Same with anyone with an Irish accent?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #19 August 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteMonarch Airlines. A package tour charter flight from Malaga to Manchester. Kind of what you expect from a plane load of thick cheap-ass northern twats. There. Fixed it. NOW it's the perfect answer. And yeah... Monarch Airlines + Malaga = 2 week piss-up with English fish & chips, discos until 4am and a straw donkey stuffed with duty-free bootleg baccy! Blowing the plane up starts to look like a good alternative to spending 2 hours in their company! Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #20 August 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteI also subscribe to the Little Green Footballs theory that every muslim is assumed to be a terrorist until proven otherwise. Same with former US Marines driving vans nearby Federal building? If you're referring to Timothy McVeigh & Terry Nichols, they were ex-Army. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #21 August 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI also subscribe to the Little Green Footballs theory that every muslim is assumed to be a terrorist until proven otherwise. Same with former US Marines driving vans nearby Federal building? Same with anyone with an Irish accent? All I can say is that Jews aren't hijacking airliners and flying them into buildings or trying to blow them up in flight with explosive sneakers or explosive baby formula - muslims are. mh"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #22 August 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI also subscribe to the Little Green Footballs theory that every muslim is assumed to be a terrorist until proven otherwise. Same with former US Marines driving vans nearby Federal building? Same with anyone with an Irish accent? Same with ANYONE who's been to Yugoslavia!!? Remember that film where a guy from Yugoslavia tried to nuke New York? That could give them ideas and he would have succeeded if it weren't for Nicole Kidman being there with a penknife! Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #23 August 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI also subscribe to the Little Green Footballs theory that every muslim is assumed to be a terrorist until proven otherwise. Same with former US Marines driving vans nearby Federal building? If you're referring to Timothy McVeigh & Terry Nichols, they were ex-Army. I stand corrected. Former Marines, you are allowed back into your vans (just stay away from Feds buildings, though)! "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caz 0 #24 August 23, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI was talking to my cousin on Monday and he told me about a UK news story where passengers aboard an aircraft refused to sit down and take their seats until 2 "suspicious-looking" muslims left the plane. Apparently it held up the departure of the flight for quite some time. I haven't seen anything like that in the press here in the US. Has anyone else heard this story? This kind of behavior is sad and scary (assuming it's true). What would be sadder is if people are so frightened of being politically incorrect that they do nothing - that's what made 9/11 happen. I say screw political correctness, and do El Al-style interviews of ANY young Middle Eastern males before they are allowed to board a plane, especially if their name is "Mohammed". mh Congrats, thats the most stupid post you've ever posted (and the competition was fierce) El Al profiles and interviews passengers, and hasn't had a hijacking since Entebbe in 1976. I rest my case. I also subscribe to the Little Green Footballs theory that every muslim is assumed to be a terrorist until proven otherwise. edit for elaboration and how do you propose to determine whether someone is a muslim or not? make them recite a Hail Mary and the Lord's Prayer and if they get it wrong boot them off? Or is it just every brown person with a beard? ~~~ London Skydivers ~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #25 August 23, 2006 Quoteand how do you propose to determine whether someone is a muslim or not?... make them recite a Hail Mary and the Lord's Prayer and if they get it wrong boot them off? Or is it just every brown person with a beard? We *COULD* make them sew little green Crescents on their clothes... Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
