JohnnyD 0 #26 August 23, 2006 Quote>Also, the military has more than its fair share of imbeciles. Right, and they seem to be able to deal with that. That they have imbeciles, or that they deal with the problems that can arise from differences in age, or that the imbeciles can deal with the problems that can arise from differences in age? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #27 August 23, 2006 >That they have imbeciles . . . Yeah. As you said, the military has its fair share of imbeciles, and they seem to deal with that OK. Given that, it seems less of a problem to deal with someone in charge who's younger. (Personally, I'd much rather deal with a leader who was 15 years younger than me than an older guy who was an idiot.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #28 August 23, 2006 Quote>That they have imbeciles . . . Yeah. As you said, the military has its fair share of imbeciles, and they seem to deal with that OK. Given that, it seems less of a problem to deal with someone in charge who's younger. (Personally, I'd much rather deal with a leader who was 15 years younger than me than an older guy who was an idiot.) Now if we could just apply that to the entire military........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #29 August 24, 2006 As a 40 year-old resident, I "take orders" from more experienced physicians who are younger than me all the time. I appreciate that they share their experience with me. I think the age issue is only a problem if you make it one. The issue of age is different than the issue of competence, and I think it's best not to confuse them. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #30 August 24, 2006 QuoteAs a 40 year-old resident, I "take orders" from more experienced physicians who are younger than me all the time. I appreciate that they share their experience with me. I think the age issue is only a problem if you make it one. The issue of age is different than the issue of competence, and I think it's best not to confuse them. linz Now that we've really hijacked this thread...... Congratulations and its not just by chance that you wrote "take orders". Working in a hospital and being in the military are two totally different things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #31 August 24, 2006 I'm sure that nothing is really comparable to being in the military.... I was a military brat early on....and I ONCE was the wife of a Navy pilot. Now I'm a doctor. Each of those experiences has its own set of demands. You'll have to help me, though, with why being in the military makes the age issue so much different than in any other situation. Age is age. Competence is competence. Why would being in the military make it so difficult to answer to a younger person? linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #32 August 24, 2006 Quote>That they have imbeciles . . . Yeah. As you said, the military has its fair share of imbeciles, and they seem to deal with that OK. Given that, it seems less of a problem to deal with someone in charge who's younger. (Personally, I'd much rather deal with a leader who was 15 years younger than me than an older guy who was an idiot.) Like this guy?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #33 August 24, 2006 The thing about your posts that I like is that they are thoughful and embody such a broad variety of subjects. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #34 August 24, 2006 QuoteThe thing about your posts that I like is that they are thoughful and embody such a broad variety of subjects. Always a pleasure to be of service.Face it, his incompetent planning and execution leading to the current quagmire is the reason we are discussing this topic at all.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #35 August 24, 2006 QuoteFace it, his incompetent planning and execution leading to the current quagmire is the reason we are discussing this topic at all. Haha, just when I thought this thread was going well.Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #36 August 24, 2006 QuoteQuoteAs a 40 year-old resident, I "take orders" from more experienced physicians who are younger than me all the time. I appreciate that they share their experience with me. I think the age issue is only a problem if you make it one. The issue of age is different than the issue of competence, and I think it's best not to confuse them. linz Now that we've really hijacked this thread...... Congratulations and its not just by chance that you wrote "take orders". Working in a hospital and being in the military are two totally different things. orders are orders, if you cant follow (or resent due to irrelevant reasons like age) the chain of command, there is a fundamental failure in discipline that needs to be addressed APART from any 'age based' resentment. the FACTS are the younger generation (of soldiers) is often FAR more qualified on the latest and greatest in equipment, tactics, techniques and procedures than the last. Age != Experience.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #37 August 24, 2006 QuoteQuote>That they have imbeciles . . . Yeah. As you said, the military has its fair share of imbeciles, and they seem to deal with that OK. Given that, it seems less of a problem to deal with someone in charge who's younger. (Personally, I'd much rather deal with a leader who was 15 years younger than me than an older guy who was an idiot.) Now if we could just apply that to the entire military........ Now you done it what we going to do without any general officers You know the ones who are supposed to tell Baghdad Rummy if they need more troops, equipment supplies etc. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #38 August 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteFace it, his incompetent planning and execution leading to the current quagmire is the reason we are discussing this topic at all. Haha, just when I thought this thread was going well. _______________________ A thread go well? Isn't that an 'oxymoron'? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #39 August 25, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote What have the max ages for the respective branches been increased to? Not sure which branch, I think Army. Just raised it to 42. I got a letter from the Army trying to recruit physicians yesterday....they said I had to be under 55 join. ...and for blind Dr's the dog has to be under five years oldWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
