miked10270 0 #1 August 22, 2006 Strange but true. America will admit some 30,000 Russian Muslims this year as residents on humanitarian grounds. After a year, they can become full US citizens. I'm unsure whether this would be viewed as good or bad news. Personally, I think it shows that whatever we may criticise America for, there are some areas where the absolute best of the "American Ethic" is still practised. More at: http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=6938 Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 August 22, 2006 QuoteStrange but true. America will admit some 30,000 Russian Muslims this year as residents on humanitarian grounds. After a year, they can become full US citizens. I'm unsure whether this would be viewed as good or bad news. Personally, I think it shows that whatever we may criticise America for, there are some areas where the absolute best of the "American Ethic" is still practised. More at: http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=6938 Mike. Beslan,.... anyone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #3 August 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteStrange but true. America will admit some 30,000 Russian Muslims this year as residents on humanitarian grounds. After a year, they can become full US citizens. Beslan,.... anyone? Yeah... So, Is the US right to "Throw-Open-Their-Doors" to these folk because of their suffering? There can be no denying that they are suffering. Nor that the "Cossacks" who've now formed a parallel police force in Krasnovar are a bunch of stupid, vicious, drunken Neo-Nazis (is there any other sort?). But do Y'All think that America should help in this way? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #4 August 22, 2006 I find it interesting that American Muslims seem to be alot better integrated than their European counterparts.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #5 August 22, 2006 Why is it always the US that takes the "oppressed" peoples of another country while circumventing the process that EVERY other legal immigrant has had to negotiate in good faith? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #6 August 22, 2006 QuoteWhy is it always the US that takes the "oppressed" peoples of another country while circumventing the process that EVERY other legal immigrant has had to negotiate in good faith? Its not just the US in fact compared to outher countrys and the size of them it doesn't take that many.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #7 August 22, 2006 I know that other countries take them but I highly doubt that they are awarded citizen status so easily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #8 August 22, 2006 QuoteIts not just the US in fact compared to outher countrys and the size of them it doesn't take that many. According to More 4's "Death of a Nation" program (Marcel Theroux on the current state of Russia), it IS America which is taking ALL of the Meskhetian Turks from Krasnovar. No other nation needs to act (or has). The US State Department has granted ALL the Meskhetian Turks living in Krasnodar refugee status and offers to help them resettle in the United States. They were granted this status in 2004. Many have already arrived in America. 30,000 is the number expected this year. Maybe more, maybe less... Doesn't matter. They all have this status & there are several million of them in total. In effect, a "blanket-grant" similar to the one Carter gave to Cuban refugees in the 1970's. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #9 August 22, 2006 QuoteI know that other countries take them but I highly doubt that they are awarded citizen status so easily. Maybe, I don't know, is it really that easy?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #10 August 22, 2006 QuoteQuote. The US State Department has granted ALL the Meskhetian Turks living in Krasnodar refugee status and offers to help them resettle in the United States. They were granted this status in 2004. Many have already arrived in America. 30,000 is the number expected this year. Maybe more, maybe less... Doesn't matter. They all have this status & there are several million of them in total. In effect, a "blanket-grant" similar to the one Carter gave to Cuban refugees in the 1970's. Mike. Are you referring to the Cuban Refugee Adjustment Act of 1966? If so, then lets not forget the Carter administration was from 1976-1980. The administration that signed that into law, (after it was passed by Congress), was the Johnson administration, ten years before. BTW. it still stands. ,If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #11 August 22, 2006 QuoteIn effect, a "blanket-grant" similar to the one Carter gave to Cuban refugees in the 1970's. That wasn't Carter, it was Johnson in 1966 who facilitated the first two airlift waves of refugees. Carter signed the Refugee Act of 1980 which allowed refugee status for Cubans after the boatlifts ended.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #12 August 22, 2006 QuoteWhy is it always the US that takes the "oppressed" Becaue that is America The US is the best place on this planet for many reasons. One is the tolerance of its people. I live next to and am friends with two families both military one flew Apaches in Iraq. When we talk about views on the war we can talk freely and we both respect each other and still play football later. The American people are the most welcoming people I have ever met. I have met way to many people to think I have just been lucky I really believe the majority of Americans are very friendly. I know for a fact in many other countries I would have to watch what I say or bad things would happen. When my Father had decided that it was time for his kids to leave Iran we could have goon anywhere America was their first choice and a choice worth waiting for. Two- America is the land of opportunity. There is a reason why people from all over the world not just the 3rd world want to come here. Rich poor whatever. You really can do anything in this country so much so that the standards of people’s dreams are even bigger then the rest of the world. Tree- Freedom. Nothing in this world is worth more. The combination of these 3 things is what makes everyone want to come here. Europe has the same freedoms but the mixture of cultures, and races in America are exactly what makes this country great and most importantly comfortable to live in.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #13 August 22, 2006 According to the UN High Commission for Refugees, Europe accepts far more refugees than the USA, and the UK is the leading country for accepting refugees.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #14 August 22, 2006 <always the US that takes the "oppressed" >> This statement is so wrong and shows a total lack of respect for so many other countries.. . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #15 August 22, 2006 QuoteEurope accepts far more refugees than the USA You are comparing a continent to a country. Europe should accept more refugees. I also don’t believe they have the same issues that the US has with the huge population of illegal immigrants.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #16 August 22, 2006 Maybe America should take more .... it creates more..... What? .... What? ... It's a joke O.K (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #17 August 22, 2006 QuoteMaybe America should take more .... it creates more..... What? .... What? ... It's a joke O.K LMAOWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #18 August 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteEurope accepts far more refugees than the USA You are comparing a continent to a country. Europe should accept more refugees. I also don’t believe they have the same issues that the US has with the huge population of illegal immigrants. Have you seen how small this island is???When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #19 August 22, 2006 I was not just talking about the UK but Europe. I wonder what the gross income of the US is compared to all of Europe?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #20 August 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteEurope accepts far more refugees than the USA You are comparing a continent to a country. Europe should accept more refugees. I also don’t believe they have the same issues that the US has with the huge population of illegal immigrants. The USA and Europe are fairly similar in size, and relative to population, Europe takes more refugees. As does the UK.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #21 August 22, 2006 QuoteI wonder what the gross income of the US is compared to all of Europe? Well, in terms of US GDP vs Western Europe: USA: $12.36 Trillion UK:....................$1.83Tr France:................$1.816Tr Spain:.................$1.029Tr Portugal:..............$204.4B Germany:...............$2.504Tr Switzerland:...........$241.8B Netherlands:...........$499.8B Belgium:...............$325B Luxemborg:.............$30.74B Austria:...............$267.6B Italy:.................$1.698Tr Liechtenstein:.........$1.786B Total Western Europe: $10.448Tr Throw in the rest of the EU and Eastern Europe and I'd guess it would surpass the US GDP by a few hundred billion dollars.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #22 August 22, 2006 Thats what i figuerd. They should take more people if they have more money.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #23 August 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteI wonder what the gross income of the US is compared to all of Europe? Well, in terms of US GDP vs Western Europe: USA: $12.36 Trillion UK:....................$1.83Tr France:................$1.816Tr Spain:.................$1.029Tr Portugal:..............$204.4B Germany:...............$2.504Tr Switzerland:...........$241.8B Netherlands:...........$499.8B Belgium:...............$325B Luxemborg:.............$30.74B Austria:...............$267.6B Italy:.................$1.698Tr Liechtenstein:.........$1.786B Total Western Europe: $10.448Tr Throw in the rest of the EU and Eastern Europe and I'd guess it would surpass the US GDP by a few hundred billion dollars. Interesting data, but the fact remains that this statement: "Why is it always the US that takes the "oppressed" peoples of another country " is misleading in the extreme.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #24 August 22, 2006 Maybe.... we have more money because we're not in debt up past our eyballs due to rediculous revenue sapping wars (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #25 August 22, 2006 YetWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
