Lieberman defeated in CT primary

[billvon 3,111]

>Let's see the soundbite or the meeting minutes.

Here's one - "In matters of war, we undermine presidential credibility at our nation's peril."

[idrankwhat 0]

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Let's see the soundbite or the meeting minutes.

I've never heard that said explicitly by any politician, I've see easy inferrences to it, but I've also seen it accused with some really weak reaching too.

The quote I posted was from him. It didn't call anyone a traitor but it did basically say, "don't question the pres in a time of war. To do so puts our nation in danger". That's a lousy way to try to end debate on a topic. Personally, I think that he probably will win as an independant and if so, good for him. But I also think that by voting him out in the primary the Dems actually showed some backbone. If they want to be the anti war team then I think it's great that they're acting like one. I do find it quite interesting that so many R's are suddenly such avid supporters of Lieberman. Do you think that they really like the guy or do you think that it's more likely that they realize that Lieberman's loss was really more of a shot at Bush and the rest of the pro-war bunch?

[Channman 2]

> Most of those from the C&R crowd...

C&R = Cut and Run? I perfer the Y&B crowd. (Yellow Belly)

[rehmwa 2]

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>Let's see the soundbite or the meeting minutes.

Here's one - "In matters of war, we undermine presidential credibility at our nation's peril."

I don't see the word "traitor" in there, but I guess if you are a one plank voter, that's good enough for government work

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> Most of those from the C&R crowd...

C&R = Cut and Run? I perfer the Y&B crowd. (Yellow Belly)

Yellow and belly. That does not make any sense.

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[kallend 2,146]

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> Most of those from the C&R crowd...

C&R = Cut and Run? I perfer the Y&B crowd. (Yellow Belly)

You mean like Eisenhower with Korea, Nixon/Ford with Vietnam, and Reagan with Lebanon?

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>Let's see the soundbite or the meeting minutes.

Here's one - "In matters of war, we undermine presidential credibility at our nation's peril."

I don't see the word "traitor" in there, but I guess if you are a one plank voter, that's good enough for government work

I think you are nitpicking as it could easily be inferred from the sentence.

An translation of the quote: "If you question the president about war, you hurt the country."

What does a traitor do to his country?

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[Channman 2]

So now you have to go through some history at me.

The Reagan Lebanon remark was hurtful.

[Amazon 7]

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C&R = Cut and Run? I perfer the Y&B crowd. (Yellow Belly)

Are those the ones who stay home and shout loudly about supporting the war no matter how many of their fellow counrtymen have died or been maimed.... but would never send themsemselves or their children in the first place????

[billvon 3,111]

>I perfer the Y&B crowd. (Yellow Belly)

As opposed to the Chickenhawk crowd.

[Channman 2]

You know not what you speak of. But that has'nt stopped ya in the past.

[kallend 2,146]

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So now you have to go through some history at me.

The Reagan Lebanon remark was hurtful.

Just mentioning some administrations that cut and ran, since someone brought up the topic. Truth hurts.

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[kallend 2,146]

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>I perfer the Y&B crowd. (Yellow Belly)

As opposed to the Chickenhawk crowd.

Surely the chickenhawks ARE YBs

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[Gawain 0]

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This was a small sliver of voters in a primary. If Lieberman decides to take it to November as an Independent, I bet he'll win.

in recent polls 60% oppose the war, 60% disapprove of Bush,

... get the picture? 60% will oppose any pro-war candidate.

As a pro-war guy not backed by any party Lieberman is dead in the water

Polls aren't worth the paper their gathered on. Remember all the exit polls in 2004?

My point was that primaries only draw out a small percentage of the registered voters of a particular party to begin with. While the CT primary brought out "record" numbers, it was still only a drop in the bucket compared to what turns out on the actual election.

Also, Lieberman shaved the margin down from double digits down to something less than 4%. Lieberman may still draw the non-fringe-left, and some centrist Republicans who don't see the right-aisle candidate as viable as an independent. It's happened more than once in CT's neighbor, Vermont.

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[matthewcline 0]

No those two assinine astatements refer to the Left and the just as stupid chickenhawk has been assigned to the right.

But it is our fault for electing the bastards in the first place. Look at the voting history of your favorite (not that you have one) politician, how much "good" have they really done? how much is pork barrel crap we can live with out?

Hey Lawrocket, was the "war going on stupid comment" a quote or directed to me? just don't want to miss understand ya.

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[kallend 2,146]

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Hey Lawrocket, was the "war going on stupid comment" a quote or directed to me? just don't want to miss understand ya.

Surely you haven't forgotten the 1992 election already.

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[matthewcline 0]

Well I don't have all the witty remarks memorized and I am nearing 40, and my Daughter says I have that thing with the mind where you forget stuff, what is it called again?

So who said it and in what context?

And I will remember it after this!

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[airdweller 0]

>I perfer the Y&B crowd. (Yellow Belly)

As opposed to the Chickenhawk crowd.

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Nice personal attack

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[kallend 2,146]

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Well I don't have all the witty remarks memorized and I am nearing 40, and my Daughter says I have that thing with the mind where you forget stuff, what is it called again?

So who said it and in what context?

And I will remember it after this!

Bill Clinton's campaign slogan was "The economy, stupid". And he was correct.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_the_economy,_stupid

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>I perfer the Y&B crowd. (Yellow Belly)

As opposed to the Chickenhawk crowd.

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Nice personal attack

He never called Channaman a Chicken hawk, but good effort.

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[kallend 2,146]

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>I perfer the Y&B crowd. (Yellow Belly)

As opposed to the Chickenhawk crowd.

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Nice personal attack

He never called Channaman a Chicken hawk, but good effort.

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A wrong answer gets C+? What kind of philanthropic grader are you? No wonder the country is going to the dogs!

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The kind that is not a professor.

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[billvon 3,111]

>Nice personal attack

I was referring to the crowd who calls for other people to fight their wars for them, while they sit in safety behind their PC's eating Doritos and watching the cool battle scenes on CNN. I don't know if anyone here falls into that category; I suspect many people here _have_ served in Iraq, which makes them about as far from chickenhawks as you can get.

[funjumper101 15]

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This was a small sliver of voters in a primary. If Lieberman decides to take it to November as an Independent, I bet he'll win.

in recent polls 60% oppose the war, 60% disapprove of Bush,

... get the picture? 60% will oppose any pro-war candidate.

As a pro-war guy not backed by any party Lieberman is dead in the water

Polls aren't worth the paper their gathered on. Remember all the exit polls in 2004?

My point was that primaries only draw out a small percentage of the registered voters of a particular party to begin with. While the CT primary brought out "record" numbers, it was still only a drop in the bucket compared to what turns out on the actual election.

Also, Lieberman shaved the margin down from double digits down to something less than 4%. Lieberman may still draw the non-fringe-left, and some centrist Republicans who don't see the right-aisle candidate as viable as an independent. It's happened more than once in CT's neighbor, Vermont.

The facts about exit polls are well documented. They ARE extremely accurate when honest elections take place. The great disparity between the exit polls in 2000 and 2004 are the direct result of election fraud.

It may be convenient to believe the spinmeisters, but they are lying. You really should research the subject with an open mind. The documented proof is undeniable.

The people of the USA have come to realize that the war in Iraq was and continues to be really bad policy. We can take back the goverment from these liars and thieves. And we will. The process has started. It will continue.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Also, Lieberman shaved the margin down from double digits down to something less than 4%. Lieberman may still draw the non-fringe-left, and some centrist Republicans who don't see the right-aisle candidate as viable as an independent. It's happened more than once in CT's neighbor, Vermont.

Lamont overcame a 40pt deficit and incumbency advantage, and now has the endorsement of DNC leadership.

Leiberman, otoh, has declared his needs more important than his party, or his state, in deciding on a do-over election as an independent. It's time for him to get a job.