Alaska pipeline shutdown

[kallend 2,182]

money.cnn.com/2006/08/07/news/international/oil_alaska/index.htm?c

That will be good for the price of gas.

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[bogwarrior 0]

Yes that and imposing sanctions on Iran, Falling production in Nigeria and south American producers doing deals with non western countries. Just spoke with a friend whos back in from the Gulf saying it will be years before production is back to normal after Katrina too. How long will it take to hit 100$ a barrell.. one month ?

[bbarnhouse 0]

No kidding! I got notice today that fuel is going up 7 cents on Tuesday.

[akarunway 1]

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That will be good for the price of gas.

Hate to say it but it will be good for me and my union pipeliner bros. We need the work

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'Tis better to have loved and lost
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money.cnn.com/2006/08/07/news/international/oil_alaska/index.htm?c

That will be good for the price of gas.

Hate to say it but it will be good for me and my union pipeliner bros. We need the work

Just a minute....weren't you just complaining about physicians because we look out for our own interests sometimes too??? Or am I mistaken?

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And the drive and interest in the urther development of alternative energy sources will increase yet again...

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[akarunway 1]

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money.cnn.com/2006/08/07/news/international/oil_alaska/index.htm?c

That will be good for the price of gas.

Hate to say it but it will be good for me and my union pipeliner bros. We need the work

Just a minute....weren't you just complaining about physicians because we look out for our own interests sometimes too??? Or am I mistaken?

linz

Ya got me. What a hippocratic A hole I am. I'll have to pay extra for meds. and the extra gas prices too. What a big circle we go in eh? Don't think I don't lay awake at nite thinking about all this shit. Greenhouse gas effects from my industry. Trust me I don't sleep well nowadays

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[kallend 2,182]

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money.cnn.com/2006/08/07/news/international/oil_alaska/index.htm?c

That will be good for the price of gas.

Hate to say it but it will be good for me and my union pipeliner bros. We need the work

Just a minute....weren't you just complaining about physicians because we look out for our own interests sometimes too??? Or am I mistaken?

linz

"It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good"

He didn't say he was going price gouging due to a monopoly like physicians have. He just said he would benefit.

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It's a pain in the arse - I'm having to pay £10 extra for my ferry tickets.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[billvon 3,132]

>but it will be good for me and my union pipeliner bros. We need the work . . .

Although I don't see a whole lot of work coming out of this. It is not to BP's advantage to get it fixed rapidly, so I'd expect some lowballing and delays.

[masterrig 1]

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>but it will be good for me and my union pipeliner bros. We need the work . . .

Although I don't see a whole lot of work coming out of this. It is not to BP's advantage to get it fixed rapidly, so I'd expect some lowballing and delays.

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I just heard on the news, workers were told to 'cut-back' on the use of an anti corrosive chemical supposed to protect the pipeline.


Chuck

[Gravitymaster 0]

Perhaps it's time to reconsider opening up ANWAR. The current production levels of the BP pipeline is about 400,000 BPD. ANWAR could produce 1,000,000 BPD. Sure would come in handy right about now. Would also ensure a stabile gasoline supply in the event oil from the ME was disrupted.

[akarunway 1]

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>but it will be good for me and my union pipeliner bros. We need the work . . .

Although I don't see a whole lot of work coming out of this. It is not to BP's advantage to get it fixed rapidly, so I'd expect some lowballing and delays.

From one of my websites I go to for info.>"From the news report I read it is a section of pipe line from the oil field east an west of Prudhoe Bay They are going to have to shut in something like 1000 wells before work can start. There is no refinery in Prudhoe Bay. The closest oil refinery is out side of Fairbanks in North Pole Alaska also home to the Santa Claus house. Some North Slope oil is refined there but most of it is sent downstream to Valdez, loaded onto tankers an sent to refineries in California an all along the West Coast. To answer your question about hiring given the current world situation I am sure they are at least taking names at this point an will probably be requesting manpower within the week. The work will be handled out of the Fairbanks hall Local 375. Be ready to leave when you call."

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Feeblemind 1]

This is just wrong

WASHINGTON - BP now admits that senior company officials were warned three years ago about serious corrosion problems in the pipeline being shut down this week.

The warnings were laid out in correspondence obtained by NBC News, between Chuck Hamel, an advocate for oil workers, and senior BP officials.

Hamel writes that BP workers had come to him predicting a "major catastrophic event" and warning that "cost cutting" had caused "serious corrosion damage to flow lines and systems."


"They were cheating in what's required of them in normal business practice in an oil field to save money, to cut corners," Hamel says.

BP officials responded at the time, but said: "We cannot investigate or act without specific information."

In the last few months, a number of BP workers have told the FBI that beginning in 1999, supervisors ordered them to cut back on a key chemical — known as corrosion inhibitor — put into the system to protect pipes. After a major spill last March, BP told federal regulators there was "a reduced level of corrosion inhibitor" in the system that failed. Federal officials ordered BP to inject more chemicals into the pipeline.

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[akarunway 1]

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This is just wrong

WASHINGTON - BP now admits that senior company officials were warned three years ago about serious corrosion problems in the pipeline being shut down this week.

The warnings were laid out in correspondence obtained by NBC News, between Chuck Hamel, an advocate for oil workers, and senior BP officials.

Hamel writes that BP workers had come to him predicting a "major catastrophic event" and warning that "cost cutting" had caused "serious corrosion damage to flow lines and systems."


"They were cheating in what's required of them in normal business practice in an oil field to save money, to cut corners," Hamel says.

BP officials responded at the time, but said: "We cannot investigate or act without specific information."

In the last few months, a number of BP workers have told the FBI that beginning in 1999, supervisors ordered them to cut back on a key chemical — known as corrosion inhibitor — put into the system to protect pipes. After a major spill last March, BP told federal regulators there was "a reduced level of corrosion inhibitor" in the system that failed. Federal officials ordered BP to inject more chemicals into the pipeline.

For the uniformed> Wall thickness on a 24"-36" std. pipe is usually around 1/2". (depends if the pipe comes from China, Japan Russia, Korea. I've seen it all) http://www.interpipe.com/Pipe_Dimensions_and_Weights.htmAt 80% loss due to corrosion. You due the math. They should have pigged the lines more often. They're just milking they're initial expense at the cost of the enviornment AND YOUR WALLET. Fuck the little guys like me that have to go in and fix the mess because the didn't want to fix the problem prior. They(management) fukin know what's going on

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[billvon 3,132]

>Fuck the little guys like me that have to go in and fix the mess
>because the didn't want to fix the problem prior.

Uh, won't you get paid to do so?

[kallend 2,182]

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This is just wrong

WASHINGTON - BP now admits that senior company officials were warned three years ago about serious corrosion problems in the pipeline being shut down this week.

The warnings were laid out in correspondence obtained by NBC News, between Chuck Hamel, an advocate for oil workers, and senior BP officials.

Hamel writes that BP workers had come to him predicting a "major catastrophic event" and warning that "cost cutting" had caused "serious corrosion damage to flow lines and systems."


"They were cheating in what's required of them in normal business practice in an oil field to save money, to cut corners," Hamel says.

BP officials responded at the time, but said: "We cannot investigate or act without specific information."

In the last few months, a number of BP workers have told the FBI that beginning in 1999, supervisors ordered them to cut back on a key chemical — known as corrosion inhibitor — put into the system to protect pipes. After a major spill last March, BP told federal regulators there was "a reduced level of corrosion inhibitor" in the system that failed. Federal officials ordered BP to inject more chemicals into the pipeline.

Seen this kind of thing before - it's the kind of thing expected when the guy with the MBA is more important to a company than the guy who actually knows what the company does.

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[akarunway 1]

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>Fuck the little guys like me that have to go in and fix the mess
>because the didn't want to fix the problem prior.

Uh, won't you get paid to do so?

If I were to want to, yes. I'd rather not tho. I'd rather see Big Oil do preventative maintenance with the billions they are reaping rather than having A FUCKIN OIL SPILL Plus. It's too COLD up there. Edit to add: Would you rather me stay in So. Cal. and make more clean water and electricity for you or go up there? It's too fuckin HOT here. So I'm fucked either way

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[soberamprat 0]

first real reason to raise the price of oil instead of things like North vietnam firing missiles. what the hell does that have to do with the price of oil

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

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Seen this kind of thing before - it's the kind of thing expected when the guy with the MBA is more important to a company than the guy who actually knows what the company does.

I see it in my line of work daily, institutional ownership of real estate will eventually kill it.

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>Fuck the little guys like me that have to go in and fix the mess
>because the didn't want to fix the problem prior.

Uh, won't you get paid to do so?

If I were to want to, yes. I'd rather not tho. I'd rather see Big Oil do preventative maintenance with the billions they are reaping rather than having A FUCKIN OIL SPILL Plus. It's too COLD up there.

Dude, it's AUGUST!!

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Seen this kind of thing before - it's the kind of thing expected when the guy with the MBA is more important to a company than the guy who actually knows what the company does.

that's refreshing, I thought degrees were the end all with your ilk

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[kallend 2,182]

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Seen this kind of thing before - it's the kind of thing expected when the guy with the MBA is more important to a company than the guy who actually knows what the company does.

that's refreshing, I thought degrees were the end all with your ilk

I don't work for a business school.

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[billvon 3,132]

>I'd rather see Big Oil do preventative maintenance with the billions
> they are reaping rather than having A FUCKIN OIL SPILL . . .

I agree with you there.

>Would you rather me stay in So. Cal. and make more clean
>water and electricity for you or go up there?

I make my own actually - but I'd rather have you stay in SoCal so you can jump!

[christelsabine 1]

Dude, it's AUGUST!!